Report Another "Church Culture Stinks" Article in LDS Gospel Discussion Posted January 5, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 9:49 PM, Fether said: 1) Joking about trying to avoid the bishop or trying to get out of a talk or calling. Why would that be a joke? It's serious business for most people. On 1/3/2020 at 9:49 PM, Fether said: 2) Saying that it is acceptable that you are consistently 15 minutes late to 9 am church when you have kids (same family continues to be 15 minutes late to 11:30 am church when the time changes... speaking from personal experience) So they're getting there ahead of a fifth of the ward, and actually showing up unlike three fifths. What's wrong with that? On 1/3/2020 at 9:49 PM, Fether said: 3) Focusing on exceptions and unique cases instead of principles of the gospel / leaving long disclaimers at the end of testimonies to prevent offending anyone. (ie "God wants all worthy able men to serve missions, but if you *insert 5 minute explanation as to why missions aren't for everyone*") Maybe they're trying to counter the "if you were worthy, He would have made you able" attitude that's still way too prevalent.