David13
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5 hours ago, Carborendum said:
"Oh! Y'all are from the health department!" And they all got spooked and left.
Health Department???
I was out home teaching last month and my companion and I were mistaken for agents from the Probation Department.
So, just a certain look that some people think they know.
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11 minutes ago, Godless said:
Yes, I'd rather make $20K a year than $2M a year because that way I don't have to pay as much tax. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?
I have no desire to tax the rich into poverty. A higher tax rate for the wealthy isn't going to prevent them from making exponentially more money than me. All I'm saying is that if I'm going to take 15% of someone's income, it makes more sense to take it from the millionaire than the janitor. The millionaire can pay that and still be rich. The janitor would have to scrounge up two or three months worth of rent payments to meet that demand.
Maybe you know about making $20k a year, but obviously you don't know anything about making $2M a year.
And secondly, oh, so you don't believe everyone should pay their "fair share"?!
That seems a bit unfair, doesn't it?
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The other problem they never address is, there is no such thing as equality. No one is ever equal to any one other. In many cases we compliment one another, such as husband and wife, but they are not equal and never will be.
We all have different talents, skills, and abilities and all use them differently.
But they like to impose this cookie cutter "equal" on everyone to force them into what they don't fit into.
And what happens is the cookie cutter cuts off a lot of the upper or better skills and talents and incentives in this false quest for "equality" which doesn't, in reality exist.
To use their own buzz word they engage in a "misguided effort" to pretend everyone is equal when they are not.
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56 minutes ago, unixknight said:
@Godless That's kind of the intent behind why I asked you that. I think the desire to tax rich people more, in most cases, is based on class envy and not an actual, articulable sense of what the problem is. I'm personally an advocate for a flat tax, because then everybody pays the same (proportionally.)
The trouble with terms like "their fair share" is that it's a really great propaganda/marketing term... It means something different to everyone, and who would argue against such a noble sounding phrase like "their fair share?" It's just like "social justice" or "assault weapon." Everybody understands the term differently so you can rally a lot of support for it without having to define anything specific at all, and it's really easy to vilify anyone who argues against it because all one has to do is use a language trick.... "Oh, so you DON'T think the rich should pay their fair share?"
There you have it. We are seeing the use of all their favorite "buzz words".
When they talk about "Billie Billionaire" do they ever talk about the many companies he runs, that employ people, who then are not poor, nor idle and using drugs and are paying taxes and giving to charity. They only insist that he "stole" the wealth from the poor.
No, in many cases he created it. He made wealth where there was none.
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2 hours ago, Godless said:
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" we can be doing to empower the lower class. "
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Right there is the basis of your problem. You think you (or your collective 'we') can run someone else's life. You cannot do anything to the "lower class" to make them do anything they don't want to do.
L B Johnson (a president long ago) thought that by giving poor people money, they would no longer be poor. Well, they still are, and all they do today is give them more money.
Only an individual can run his own life, and work his way out of poverty, or not.
In reality, you would be better off if you gave them no money. They then would have no choice but to work and earn their way. In fact, that is the best motivation for anyone.
I think also you do not have a good grasp of the different social value of a person of wealth, as opposed to the doper.
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Well let me find Hugh Nibley's assessment of her book.
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There are many stories of people who suffered setback after setback and then had that one great event or product, etc., that placed them on the map of history one way or another.
Charles Dickens. John James Audubon. Edgar Poe.
There are also "golden boys", those that have nothing but success all their lives. It seems like everything they touch turns to gold. I think they are rare, tho', and who knows what it's really like under the surface that we see.
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Steve Noel
It used to say on Michigan license plates "Winter Wonderland", so you ought to appreciate that nice snow. It can be fun stuff.
As to that book, I had read reviews that it was less than flattering about Joseph Smith so I decided to skip it.
One good one I found was the history of Joseph Smith by his mother, which I can't remember her name, but as you might expect, it was favorable to him.
One to truly avoid is a history of Joseph Smith by Fawn Brodie. Skip it. Pure hatchet job, with no facts or evidentiary support, just negative conclusions.
The 1816 year without summer was due to a volcanic eruption in I think the south Pacific that left volcanic ash in the air over the entire planet. There were other occasions when that happened as well.
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On 4/3/2016 at 1:15 PM, Eowyn said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheri_L._Dew
These are two prominent, educated, professionally accomplished LDS women that come to mind.
But it doesn't matter. Educated =/= qualified. Accomplished =/= qualified. Called = qualified. This is the Lord's work and really, none of us is qualified or experienced enough to do any of it. We all stand in need of His help and teaching. We're all given whatever resources we need to do what He asks of us. Obedience, humility, keeping covenants, and striving to do what's right are some of the primary credentials for filling any calling.
I don't think anyone could come up with a better response that than.
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The Temple is a most glorious experience. I can only, as the others, encourage you to go as soon, and then as often as you can.
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I forgot a hymn. My favorite, which I love to hear, especially with the video that is available online, is Come Come Ye Saints.
It's based on the struggle on the trek to Utah, which brings in my favorite aspect, the history. The history to me is a big part of it.
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11 minutes ago, NeedleinA said:
Came across this...
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Doesn't that border on mockery?
Maybe they do have a sense of humor or something, tho'.
I suppose they know all about kids, and all that power ninja warrior mutant stuff.
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3 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:
You know, something that just occurred to me--and I haven't really thought through all the implications, but I thought it provocative:
If the general Primary Presidency is selected in the same way as the ward auxiliary presidencies I've seen, then the President was called first and was asked to identify potential counselors. Let us assume that Sister Jones decided that Sisters Bingham and Cordon were the women she wanted serving with her, and notified the 1st Presidency/Q12 of her request. Would it then be appropriate for the (all male) 1st Pres/Q12 to deny Sister Jones the most effective team she believes she can put together, in the name of fostering diversity of profession (or ethnicity, or any other sort of diversity) within that presidency?
No, I think it would be totally inappropriate. I think that's the whole point here.
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I need help.
My beautiful and extra special avatar, without knowledge nor consent from me, was changed from an appropriate square or rectangle, to a circle.
It is unacceptable that way.
Can you change it back for me?
Thank you in advance
Yours truly,
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Anatess2
I think you really know how to do it. Quite impressive.
A lot like another Anatess that used to be around here.
I do wonder tho' if separate bathrooms would be a good idea for you and your husband.
Believe it or not, over the years, thru' personal experience and observing friends and relatives, I have found separate bedrooms to be a good solution for many couples.
But in your case, I think separate bathrooms might be ideal.
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There is nothing pretentious about a monument or headstone. They at least leave something long term behind for a person. Others are able to leave behind books (that they wrote) or various buildings they were part of one way or another. Or other things. But not all of us are so fortunate or talented. So at least we can leave a marker. A monument or headstone, with some personal information, and maybe a statement, saying, motto, or joke.
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I grew up across the street from a large graveyard, one that had been filled long before I was born, or nearly so. So it was ancient history for me to walk the dog or myself over there and imagine the lives of the past.
I still see the graveyards around all the small towns I visit in Utah. I'm looking for my own place in one of them, as my time comes soon, supposedly.
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38 minutes ago, Sunday21 said:
When Jesus called the apostles was He looking for worldly experience? Lots of fishermen and a tax collector. But Dahlia, you are surely a Canadian at heart. Come on up and join us. We have an incredibly gender and ethnically diverse cabinet. The premier of my province is gay. Come on up here, you know you want to!
Eh. Then she could watch hockey with the eskimos. That'd be some diversity, eh?
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Worth saying twice.
The usual nuts were all over the street as well, shouting, holding up signs.
Just sad that they have no sufficient imagination to go out and do something worthwhile with their lives.
Maybe it's scriptural, maybe they are the, or related to the people in the big building, pointing and mocking, maybe that is it.
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8 hours ago, Sunday21 said:
When you go this afternoon, feel the grass! Just kidding!
We heard Pres Uchtdorf say that there had been some dissenting votes and that those people should see their stake presidents. That's all.
Lucky you to see conference live. We all wish we were there with you.
Sunday21, you ought to know as well as I that those were Chia plants.. Who wouln't know that.
I was blessed. I didn't have to say anything. A friend just said I willl talk to a 70 I know and see if I can get you more tickets and upgraded tickets, which I did get. Front and center for three sessions.
I met with the Elder from the 70 yesterday am.
And it turned out that my ticket for Sunday morning was actually quite good, terrace 12, the ticket from my Stake Pres.
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7 hours ago, LiterateParakeet said:
We heard someone shout "NO!" After several sustainings. I love President Uctdorf's response, "noted".
I was there right in the first front center section.. From the right rear 2 or 3 times some female called out loud "object" once each to the first two or three sustainings.
At first President Uchtdorf seemed annoyed or like he didn't know how to respond. After they got into the lesser, or later callings, the objections either ceased, or they threw the malcontent out.
He only came up with "noted" on the second or third shout out.
What he did, which was good, was say "show by the usual signal or something" the raising of hands.. Then on the second or third, he said "Any objection BY THE SAME SIGN".
So then maybe the Miss (or Mrs) "I get to run the church" either shut up or raised her hand. I couldn't see and didn't look.
Then later, as they did in previous years, he said "Pres Monson told me to say see your stake pres."
I didn't hear a "no" but maybe that came from somewhere else.
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I'm here and was watching live front and center yesterday. I met with one of the 70 and got some reserved tickets.. Nice.
I'm about to go over for the Music and Spoken Word then the a.m. session. Again for the afternoon session I have a reserved seat which means I can go in 5 minutes before and still have the seat..
Could everyone hear what went on with the sustaining yesterday? Or did they cut that out?
I really liked Elder Uckdorf's message..
President Monson had quite a short talk..
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The "remember me" function still does not work. I notice they took down the advisement that they were still working on it.
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It's times like these what is bliss, is not being married.
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i just suffer along with nobody to nag me.
I think the bottom line may simply be, op, she talks too much. Men may get a lot of talking at work, as part of the job, and when they come home, maybe they just like peace and quiet.
We heard Pres Uchtdorf say that there had been some dissenting votes and that those people should see their stake presidents. That's all.
Socialism is evil. Tell my why I am wrong. (and let's keep it civil)
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It's important to have a God.
And it's important for us to know that we are not that God.
Most of us know and understand that. But some have to be told. "There is a God, and you are not him."
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