Amillia

Amillia - I've noticed you make a lot of general statements without any substance to back it up. So for something more positive here's a chance for you to show me (or all the board) what those great works of JS's are. I am just curious as to what your opinion might be in regards to these great works. I have no intention of disagreeing with your opinion, I'm just wondering if you can actually add some substance to your general statement of great works. To help you out, some definitions of GREAT are: *Remarkable or outstanding in magnitude, degree, or extent: a great crisis. *Of outstanding significance or importance: a great work of art. *Powerful; influential: one of the great nations of the West *Eminent; distinguished: a great leader. Please and Thank you and Good Luck! M. Receiving of revelations, which are totally profound such as are found in the D&C. Translating the BofM through the Spiritual Gift from God. Living through endless torment, and persecution and staying true. Just for starters. BTW I really don't want to answer your posts.

The scripture means that if one sins or breaks any of the laws, he loses the Spirit. The Holy Ghost cannot dwell in unholy places and one is not holy when one sins (Moroni 10:32-33) So one sin may take longer to repent from (like adultry is harder to repent from than telling a lie) or homsexual sin seems to have a stronger grip on it's victims than does normal adultry kind of sin. (JMO) Anyway, any kind of sin ~ big or little causes the Spirit to leave and in this it is just as bad to commit one sin, or all the sins. ~

March 07, 2005 Print this E-mail this PRIVATIZATION LOSES GROUND—More and more Americans disapprove of President George W. Bush’s Social Security privatization scheme, according to recent polls. A new USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll released Feb. 28 showed in late February, 56 percent of those surveyed disapproved of Bush’s privatization plan, up from a 48 percent disapproval in early February. An Associated Press poll showed just 39 percent support for Bush’s plan, which cuts guaranteed benefits and drives up the federal deficit. Meanwhile, some 200 protestors greeted Bush in Westfield, N.J., March 4 when he held another in a series of his closed-door, “town-hall” meetings with a handpicked audience to discuss his plans to privatize Social Security. Working families and their allies are circulating petitions urging members of Congress to oppose Social Security privatization. Download the petition at www.aflcio.org/socialsecurity. PRIVATIZATION DOESN’T BOOST SOLVENCY—The National Academy of Social Insurance (NASI) says Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security does nothing to improve the program’s solvency, as acknowledged by the White House. “To the extent that such plans would shift funds from scheduled Social Security taxes to personal accounts, they deplete funds that are needed to pay benefits to today’s beneficiaries and those who will become beneficiaries in the near future,” said Virginia Reno, NASI vice president of income security. The report, Options to Balance Social Security Funds Over the Next 75 Years, can be downloaded at www.nasi.org/usr_doc/SS_Brief_18.pdf. AFRICAN AMERICANS OPPOSE PRIVATIZATION—Fully 89 percent of African Americans say Social Security should be protected as a guaranteed benefit and not privatized, according to a new poll conducted by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies with Rock the Vote and AARP. Civil rights advocates, such as the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus, oppose Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security, noting a 2003 Government Accountability Office report showing African Americans and Latinos, because of higher disability rates and lower lifetime earnings, tend to receive greater benefits relative to Social Security taxes than whites. For more information, visit www.research.aarp.org/econ/soc_sec_pr_acc.pdf.

I have read up on the SS. But I haven't listened to the propaganda from Bush's camp. I have listened to several Congressmen on this subject as well. I don't think I am uninformed ~ I'm just not bushbrainwashed.

I agree.It is interesting to note that all of JS great works are totally ignored by those who find fault their only truths. :)

Ooooooo! Another new word! (is it like the Stay Puff Marshmallow man?) Second Bruce Goodday, Bruce! First Bruce Oh, Hello Bruce! Third Bruce How are yer Bruce? First Bruce Bit crook, Bruce. Second Bruce Where's Bruce? First Bruce He's not here, Bruce. Third Bruce Blimey, s'hot in here, Bruce. First Bruce S'hot enough to boil a monkey's bum! Second Bruce That's a strange expression, Bruce. First Bruce Well Bruce, I heard the Prime Minister use it. S'hot enough to boil a monkey's bum in 'ere, your Majesty,' he said and she smiled quietly to herself. Third Bruce She's a good Sheila, Bruce and not at all stuck up. Second Bruce Ah, here comes the Bossfella now! - how are you, Bruce? Enter fourth Bruce with English person, Michael Fourth Bruce Goodday, Bruce, Hello Bruce, how are you, Bruce? Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce a chap from pommie land... who'll be joining us this year here in the Philosophy Department of the University of Woolamaloo. All Goodday. Fourth Bruce Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce. Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce. Michael Baldwin - this is Bruce. First Bruce Is your name not Bruce, then? Michael No, it's Michael. Second Bruce That's going to cause a little confusion. Third Bruce Mind if we call you 'Bruce' to keep it clear? Fourth Bruce Well, Gentlemen, I think we'd better start the meeting. Before we start, though, I'll ask the padre for a prayer. First Bruce snaps a plastic dog-collar round his neck. They all lower their heads. First Bruce Oh Lord, we beseech thee, have mercy on our faculty, Amen!! All Amen! Fourth Bruce Crack the tubes, right! (Third Bruce starts opening beer cans) Er, Bruce, I now call upon you to welcome Mr. Baldwin to the Philosophy Department. Second Bruce I'd like to welcome the pommy ###### to God's own earth, and I'd like to remind him that we don't like stuck-up sticky-beaks here. All Hear, hear! Well spoken, Bruce! Fourth Bruce Now, Bruce teaches classical philosophy, Bruce teaches Haegelian philosophy, and Bruce here teaches logical positivism, and is also in charge of the sheepdip. Third Bruce What's does new Bruce teach? Fourth Bruce New Bruce will be teaching political science - Machiavelli, Bentham, Locke, Hobbes, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Lindwall, Miller, Hassett, and Benet. Second Bruce Those are cricketers, Bruce! Fourth Bruce Oh, spit! Third Bruce Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce! Fourth Bruce In addition, as he's going to be teaching politics, I've told him he's welcome to teach any of the great socialist thinkers, provided he makes it clear that they were wrong. They all stand up. All Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you. Amen! They sit down. Fourth Bruce Any questions? Second Bruce New Bruce - are you a pooftah? Fourth Bruce Are you a pooftah? Michael No! Fourth Bruce No right, well gentlemen, I'll just remind you of the faculty rules: Rule one - no pooftahs. Rule two, no member of the faculty is to maltreat the Abbos in any way whatsoever - if there's anybody watching. Rule three - no pooftahs. Rule four - I don't want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out. Rule five - no pooftahs. Rule six - there is no rule six! Rule seven - no pooftahs. That concludes the reading of the rules, Bruce. Boy you sure know how to turn a body off from reading.

I didn't say that the money would be coming back to me that I put in; I know that it has been paying my parents and your parents SS, but I was promised, as were all Americans who worked and paid for this benefit, that it would be there for us when we got old. Then a few years back there started to be rumblings amongst the polititions who had used the reserves for other things ( I hope you know about that) and now we are in real trouble? Bull-shony!I know what the Bushy plan is, and those who are right up there at his level say it won't give us anything close to what we should have, if we are lucy. Don't go blowing that hennedy smoke in my face girly girl ~ !

Right on sista!!!

No. Otherwise there would be very few who ever went to the temple. They have people called to be name extractors who work daily extracting thousands of names for temple work. That way, if I want to go to the temple and do some work for the dead, there are names for me to take through, without having to have my own. My parents exhausted our genelogical line, there just isn't anyone else for me to find that there are records for. Plus there are many other family members doing work on that same line. So it is very possible, and more than plausable that when you go to the temple, you are doing a name of someone you aren't directly related to. Is this true? Anyone else? Because I read somewhere that many baptisms that were done were overturned because they found out there was no relationship between the people doing the temple work and the people the temple work was done for. pure fiction Jenda. All that is done in the temple is by proxy and you do not have to be related. I have been going to the temple for over 30 years and I have yet to do any work for my kindred dead. And if you want to get technical, we are all related from NOAH ~ Just as an extra piece of information, I used to be an extractor ~

I like her. But my kids don't. But then they are mostly all boys.

What I heard was that Bush thinks we are too stupid to tell us about the stock market needing our cash to stay afloat and that we had to be bushwacked with a blind of SS threat (that wasn't real) in order to get us to voluntarily give our cash to the faltering stock market ~ because bush doesn't want the crash of 29 rerun coming up and biting his presidency in the butt! Don't you guys remember Bill Clinton hyping the Social Security "crisis" during his presidency? Now the Dems are saying "no crisis, never was." I wouldn't call Social Security's upcoming insolvency a "crisis" -- there's plenty of time to fix the problem one way or another. But there is a built-in problem with the time coming in only a few years where the system will start paying out more than it takes in, and the problem will only get worse. I suspect the ultimate result will be to cut benefits, which is why I want to be able to take control of part of my own payroll tax so it can't be cut. Basically, I figure my choice is (1) a guarantee that the government will cut my benefits; and (2) the possibility that declining investments could result in cuts in my benefits. I'll risk the possibility over the sure thing. No I do not remember Clinton saying there was a crisis. He must not have gone on the road to campaign the change. So he mentioned it at an obscure college speaking engagement? That can't hardly be compared to how Bush is going at it. Exactly Amellia. Clinton used it as a scare tactic to help his political agenda...as have a number of other Dems...Now a president has the guts to actually try to fix it and them try to back peddle. Compound interest. The longer they wait to try to fix it, the less you'll earn! GUTS? Yeah I'll give you the point for Bush being gustsy ~ he is the gutsiest! But that doesn't mean he is doing the right thing. LEAVE MY SS ALONE!!! I have had money taken out all of my life with the promise it was going to be used for my old age. But they have used it for everything else, now they want to claim putting it into the stock market is going to get me something? Hardly. ONly a moron would believe that.

LOL....a big lying apologist for Bush and all republicans.

AWWWWWW that felt so good!!!! :)

Everyone can turn it into what they want, but the preachers, who btw study the historical ends of the bible backwards and forwards, are the ones I got this scripture from in the context of homosexuality.This link has to be written by a homosexual apologist, right?

No. Otherwise there would be very few who ever went to the temple. They have people called to be name extractors who work daily extracting thousands of names for temple work. That way, if I want to go to the temple and do some work for the dead, there are names for me to take through, without having to have my own.My parents exhausted our genelogical line, there just isn't anyone else for me to find that there are records for. Plus there are many other family members doing work on that same line. So it is very possible, and more than plausable that when you go to the temple, you are doing a name of someone you aren't directly related to.

Two can play at that game: Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye,' while there is a beam in your own? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5) Basically that is what my scripture was teaching ~ don't judge JS or any of the church leaders and members ~ unless you have walked a mile in their shoes. And since JS isn't here to defend himself ~ I think he and the church history should be ~ hands off ~ territory. Nice idea, but unworkable in reality. If we took a hands-off policy towards every historical figure who wasn't around to defend himself, we couldn't discuss history at all. Joe McCarthy isn't around to defend himself, but it doesn't stop him from getting plenty of well-deserved retrospective kicks. If you take it upon yourself to be a big mover in history, you assume the risk that people won't let your memory rest in peace. If you want to be safely forgotten, keep your head down, stay anonymous, and don't do anything momentous. IOW, don't do anything worth while. It has been said that those who are busy doing good works will get the most opposition because Satan doesn't want good works performed and if he can't stop them, he will discolor them so they won't be accepted for what they are.... My husband was once told at work to do as little as possible and keep a low profile and he wouldn't have any problems. Trouble was, my husband liked to work hard and to do exceptional work and he received a lot of recognition for it until the underlayer became jealous and tried to put him up on charges of theft ~ Of course the truth became known and the real theives were caught ~ but it was terribly stressful for a while.

JD what is the significance of your Kurt Russel avatar " Escape from LA?"

Find me a righteous man and then we'll talk.

I don't get it. What does that link tellyou?

Well, there we have it, real proof of George Bush's intentions. It HAS to be true because some guy on the radio said it. Which station or program? NPR? Air America? Who said it? Did you bother to check this guys' sources or bias before believing it? As far as not hearing (reading?) it in an e-mail, that is where your post starts, it was SPAM (subscribed to or not) from a group backed by (dictated to?) the AFL/CIO. Go back and read your original post, it is all there. In fact it states that you should see what they are doing by directing you to the AFL/CIO website. Well it wasn't that lying son of a gun Shaun Hennedy!

I didn't say the college was obscure, the speach at a college is obscure ~

Hey here is a scripture I just found today: Lev. 20: 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. The reason I am so surprised that I found this is because I have been told by Gays that there was no such scripture.

Too bad you couldn't have a little chat with JS yourself.

Two can play at that game: Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye,' while there is a beam in your own? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5) Basically that is what my scripture was teaching ~ don't judge JS or any of the church leaders and members ~ unless you have walked a mile in their shoes. And since JS isn't here to defend himself ~ I think he and the church history should be ~ hands off ~ territory.

What I heard was that Bush thinks we are too stupid to tell us about the stock market needing our cash to stay afloat and that we had to be bushwacked with a blind of SS threat (that wasn't real) in order to get us to voluntarily give our cash to the faltering stock market ~ because bush doesn't want the crash of 29 rerun coming up and biting his presidency in the butt! Don't you guys remember Bill Clinton hyping the Social Security "crisis" during his presidency? Now the Dems are saying "no crisis, never was." I wouldn't call Social Security's upcoming insolvency a "crisis" -- there's plenty of time to fix the problem one way or another. But there is a built-in problem with the time coming in only a few years where the system will start paying out more than it takes in, and the problem will only get worse. I suspect the ultimate result will be to cut benefits, which is why I want to be able to take control of part of my own payroll tax so it can't be cut. Basically, I figure my choice is (1) a guarantee that the government will cut my benefits; and (2) the possibility that declining investments could result in cuts in my benefits. I'll risk the possibility over the sure thing. No I do not remember Clinton saying there was a crisis. He must not have gone on the road to campaign the change. So he mentioned it at an obscure college speaking engagement? That can't hardly be compared to how Bush is going at it.