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    person0 reacted to SilentOne in The Three Nephites... Names?   
    I can see that as reasonable grounds to guess that Nephi, Jonas, and Timothy were their First Presidency, but I don't see it as strong evidence that they are the three who chose to tarry.
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    person0 reacted to The Folk Prophet in Responding to Mormon Hub Articles   
    Fair point. As I'm the one who wrote that specific comment I can take responsibility. I will be more careful in my responses. I was not considering the author's feelings in my initial response. That was a mistake and I apologize for it.
    The objective, for what it's worth, in the "trend", I believe, was to get the More Good Foundation to take a closer look at their editing processes. I do not fault a young college kid for writing something that might be naively harmful. I do fault the "adults" who own and manage the site for not asking for a rewrite when problematic ideas are presented. But there are, as you say, kinder ways to say so. I was wrong in my approach and I actually appreciate being called on it.
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    person0 reacted to Just_A_Guy in What the Scouting decision shows about us   
    I second @person0.  Whatever BSA's past virtues, it has devolved into a morass of bureaucracy and avarice.  As a cubmaster for 2 years and an 11-year-old leader for 4-5 years before that in two different wards; I find that my council is quick to tell me what I'm doing wrong, quick to say "no", quick to lose records, quick to sell me crap at inflated prices, quick to extol its own virtues, quick to ask for money, quick to give me boneheaded "tips" that haven't worked for any boy born after 1949, quick to nag me about why I'm not growing my pack . . . But agonizingly slow to provide any meaningful support to those of us volunteers who are in the trenches, making the program work.
    Any time a relationship dissolves, there will inevitably be some navel-gazing and questions about what we could have done better.  On the whole, that's healthy.  But we need not view the BSA through rose-colored glasses.  Scouting is no longer the blessing that once it was; and the benefits it still provides are by no means exclusive to the BSA--as Trail Life USA has shown.  And it's worth noting that TLUSA's entire membership is only 1/5 of the number of LDS boys affected by this new policy.
    Our future remains bright.
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    person0 got a reaction from Sunday21 in 1 Nephi Chapter 11 - May 11, 2017   
    It's amazing how much pondering on the scriptures can bring the inspiration of the Spirit.  For Nephi it brought great visions.  For all it can help bring a witness of the Savior and the truthfulness of the gospel.  I have gained a further testimony of pondering as I have joined in this study session sponsored by @pam and @Irishgrin.  I have found myself taking more time to ponder each verse and contemplate its significance and have received great treasures of knowledge thus far.  My wife reads my posts and asked me the other day about what I do if I read a chapter and don't have anything stand out in particular, to which I responded that I read it again, and again until I learn something, or make a connection, of which I previously had not been aware.  I haven't studied the scriptures in chapter order before while explicitly using this method.
    This goes on throughout the chapter.  What a marvelous experience to have a literal conversation with a member of the Godhead.  From what I am aware, relatively few have been so blessed.  Yet from these events we can trust that it is something with which we may each be blessed if pertinent to our individual profit and learning and God's plan for us.
    That's a rather rare occurrence.  The Still Small Voice finds the opportune moment to belt it out there!  I have never personally yet had an experience with the Spirit calling loudly.  I have, however, been filled with the power of the Holy Ghost immensely.  In that experience I knew my testimony could not be ignored by those with whom I was sharing it, and I felt as though I could literally move a mountain if it were expedient.  That was the closest thing I can remember.  An important point here is that, while often when communicating with Man, the Spirit of God acts as a still small voice, there are times when He is needed and used in other capacities.  This is important as we must also know or at least be prepared to recognize when He communicates with us through one of these other mechanisms.
    Verse 7 is a clear pattern of instruction line upon line.  It was only after a previous experience had ended that Nephi would be granted further light and knowledge added upon that which he had already received.  This eventually leading up to seeing Christ Himself!
    Verse 11 - The fact that the Holy Spirit is in the form of a man was probably a new experience for Nephi.  He felt it was important enough that he explained very clearly that the Spirit looked just like you and I; even going so far as to feel it important to remind us that the Holy Ghost is a still actually a Spirit, yet looks plainly like a man.
    Verse 12 - I wonder if the Spirit was both revealing truth and being appropriately humorous in that moment.  'Hey look over here! . . . Made you look!"
    Verse 14 - There are many unnamed angels in the scriptures.  This angel shows Nephi may things, including the crucifixion of the Lord.  I will be curious to learn the identity of these unnamed angels.
    I wonder why it was important that Nephi tell us he was not able to see or learn much about the 12 apostles?  As I ponder this, the one thing that comes to mind is that he mentions that they followed Christ.  They were not a focus of the dream, but Christ and His ministry was.  Ultimately, even as we heed the words of the apostles and prophets it is Christ who we follow and not any other, we are not of Paul or of cephas, etc.  It may have been important in that moment that Nephi be informed, but not distracted from the focus of his vision, likewise we should avoid distractions from the core focus of our mortal probation, eternity!
    Considering the chapter as a whole, we can see that Nephi is being shone not only the vision of his father, but also having it added upon by greater depth of understanding and other portions of the vision interspersed.  Similarly as we read of these accounts, and scriptures in general, we receive not only the witness they bear, but also whatever else the Spirit is able to enlighten us with at the time.
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    person0 got a reaction from pam in 1 Nephi Chapter 11 - May 11, 2017   
    It's amazing how much pondering on the scriptures can bring the inspiration of the Spirit.  For Nephi it brought great visions.  For all it can help bring a witness of the Savior and the truthfulness of the gospel.  I have gained a further testimony of pondering as I have joined in this study session sponsored by @pam and @Irishgrin.  I have found myself taking more time to ponder each verse and contemplate its significance and have received great treasures of knowledge thus far.  My wife reads my posts and asked me the other day about what I do if I read a chapter and don't have anything stand out in particular, to which I responded that I read it again, and again until I learn something, or make a connection, of which I previously had not been aware.  I haven't studied the scriptures in chapter order before while explicitly using this method.
    This goes on throughout the chapter.  What a marvelous experience to have a literal conversation with a member of the Godhead.  From what I am aware, relatively few have been so blessed.  Yet from these events we can trust that it is something with which we may each be blessed if pertinent to our individual profit and learning and God's plan for us.
    That's a rather rare occurrence.  The Still Small Voice finds the opportune moment to belt it out there!  I have never personally yet had an experience with the Spirit calling loudly.  I have, however, been filled with the power of the Holy Ghost immensely.  In that experience I knew my testimony could not be ignored by those with whom I was sharing it, and I felt as though I could literally move a mountain if it were expedient.  That was the closest thing I can remember.  An important point here is that, while often when communicating with Man, the Spirit of God acts as a still small voice, there are times when He is needed and used in other capacities.  This is important as we must also know or at least be prepared to recognize when He communicates with us through one of these other mechanisms.
    Verse 7 is a clear pattern of instruction line upon line.  It was only after a previous experience had ended that Nephi would be granted further light and knowledge added upon that which he had already received.  This eventually leading up to seeing Christ Himself!
    Verse 11 - The fact that the Holy Spirit is in the form of a man was probably a new experience for Nephi.  He felt it was important enough that he explained very clearly that the Spirit looked just like you and I; even going so far as to feel it important to remind us that the Holy Ghost is a still actually a Spirit, yet looks plainly like a man.
    Verse 12 - I wonder if the Spirit was both revealing truth and being appropriately humorous in that moment.  'Hey look over here! . . . Made you look!"
    Verse 14 - There are many unnamed angels in the scriptures.  This angel shows Nephi may things, including the crucifixion of the Lord.  I will be curious to learn the identity of these unnamed angels.
    I wonder why it was important that Nephi tell us he was not able to see or learn much about the 12 apostles?  As I ponder this, the one thing that comes to mind is that he mentions that they followed Christ.  They were not a focus of the dream, but Christ and His ministry was.  Ultimately, even as we heed the words of the apostles and prophets it is Christ who we follow and not any other, we are not of Paul or of cephas, etc.  It may have been important in that moment that Nephi be informed, but not distracted from the focus of his vision, likewise we should avoid distractions from the core focus of our mortal probation, eternity!
    Considering the chapter as a whole, we can see that Nephi is being shone not only the vision of his father, but also having it added upon by greater depth of understanding and other portions of the vision interspersed.  Similarly as we read of these accounts, and scriptures in general, we receive not only the witness they bear, but also whatever else the Spirit is able to enlighten us with at the time.
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    person0 got a reaction from Anddenex in What the Scouting decision shows about us   
    I am an Eagle Scout and am grateful for the Scouting experiences and opportunities I have had.  However, once I experienced the bureaucratic side of scout leadership, I quickly determined that I did not like scouting anymore. I believe that the advantages and opportunities it provided could be easily achieved without everything they require.  I hope that the new program the Church implements will include teaching many of the same skills and doing many of the same activities, but with a reduced burden on the young men's leadership.
    The programmer side of my brain came up with the concept of Open Source Scouts, where people could collaborate to create a similar meaningful program that would not entail any bureaucracy and any person or organization could do it!  I hope no one steals my idea!   Does my posting this count as a copyright?  Show me the royalties!  
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    person0 got a reaction from Sunday21 in 1 Nephi Chapter 10 - May 10, 2017   
    This chapter reads as though Nephi had never heard such a doctrine until this point in time.  Based on the phraseology, it seems that Lehi may not have been aware either, until after reading the brass plates.  Imagine hearing this information for the very first time, and knowing it is coming from a true source.  Imagine being Lehi, and reading from the scriptures for the first time, knowing you are reading the word of God as spoken/written by His prophets, and receiving the revelation about the gospel and the provision of a Savior.  What a glorious doctrine!  Salvation from death and from sin through the atonement.  Without this knowledge, I presume many of the Jews in that time may have simply speculated about how sacrifices work to cleanse sin and other similar questions, just as we speculate about various things in our time.  To Laman and Lemuel, as to many in our day, this concept seemed like a crazy fairy tale.  To Nephi he thirsted for more and 'was desirous also that [he] might see, and hear, and know of these things, by the power of the Holy Ghost'.
    This chapter refers to the witness of the Holy Ghost many times (5 to be exact).  It is reflected, therefore, that the witness of the Holy Ghost is the paramount experience in ones testimony of Christ, of His gospel, and of all truth.  As Nephi reflects on his experience when writing this, he chose to mention the witness of the Holy Ghost with that frequency and stress its importance in his own conversion, and his own experiences.  It was by the Holy Ghost that he was able to see, hear, and know these truth's.  Without the witness of the Spirit, he may have seen, he may have heard, but he would not know.  Additionally, the Spirit would have opened his mind and understanding to see and hear more than the spoken or written word.  Christ, having this knowledge often said, 'he who hath ears to hear, let him hear'.  If the Holy Ghost can enable so much, is it any wonder that denying the direct witness of the Holy Ghost is the one truly unpardonable sin?  Even the very appearance of Christ could seem of little consequence without the revelation of the Spirit, therefore, Christ should manifest Himself, by the Spirit.  By His power, is revealed the truth of all things.
    At the end of the day, the only way to know if something or someone is truly authorized of God is to receive the witness of the Holy Ghost for ones self.  If the Holy Ghost is the one who gives the authority in the first place, how could you know of the truthfulness of said authority by any other means?
    I also found it interesting that we can tell from the text that Lehi had read the allegory of the olive tree, written by Zenos.  Nephi did not feel it necessary to expound further.  The Spirit would have prompted such, knowing that Jacob would later be called to present it on the record.  This could be seen as a temporal evidence of the fact that the Book of Mormon is not a fabrication.  Jacob did not refer back to this experience with His father when he presented the words of Zenos.  It would be unlikely and rare that an author of even 'realistic' fiction would not have referred the reader to reflect back on the previously foreshadowed moment in some way.  However, if Jacob were carving on the plates, I doubt he would think it necessary to make such a connection within the record itself.  He would not have seen it as a foreshadowing, but merely two people testifying of the same thing (two witnesses!).
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    person0 got a reaction from Sunday21 in One Word to Describe YOU   
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    person0 got a reaction from The Folk Prophet in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    Exactly.  Am I going to take the time to explain myself to someone who petitioned me to break my covenant of chastity?  Or am I going to say the quickest, most polite thing I can come up with to high tail it out of the situation?  I'd suggest that most faithful people, especially members, would pull a Joseph and flee as politely as reasonable.  
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    person0 reacted to pam in 1 Nephi Chapter 6 - May 6, 2017   
    Very short chapter.  But what I came away with is that Nephi's intent for what he writes is to teach all of us the ways of God and to bring people to Christ.
    Hugh Nibley says this:
     
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    person0 reacted to pam in 1 Nephi Chapter 5 - May 5, 2017   
    One key word that I found in verse 10 was the word "search."  It says that Lehi took the records that Nephi and his brothers brought back and searched them.  It doesn't say he read them but he searched them.  To me the word search indicates to me he was looking for something more personal or something to bring him more understanding.
    Also in regards to Sariah's complaining.  How many trivial things do we complain about during our day?  Yet here was Sariah who had not yet gained a testimony of her husband's visions contemplating the loss of everything she held dear.  Her home, her sons and her friends.  Makes our little day to day complaints seem so trivial.
    In verse 11 it mentions the 5 books of Moses that the records contained.  I wasn't familiar with exactly what these 5 books were.  So in doing a bit of research I found this:
     
     
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    person0 reacted to The Folk Prophet in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    @Vort, as I think about it, one (faithful lds) might say "I can't, I'm married", but would that really be what they meant, or what they were using to kindly remove themselves from the situation?
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    person0 reacted to NightSG in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    Dude, anybody who looks like they have $20 to spare, or might be a potential green card gets offers all the time in plenty of those countries.
    Don't even have to go there for the green card ones; just being an American on a LDS singles Facebook group gets me friend requests from 19 year old Filipinas all the time.  (And that's just the real ones.)
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    person0 reacted to The Folk Prophet in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    Yes...but... Did you respond by saying, "I can't, I'm married?" Well...not you, obviously. But would any faithful LDS person respond that way? That's the part I claim unlikely.
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    person0 reacted to The Folk Prophet in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    Maybe my mormonhub bias was on high.
    I'm not sure the equivelency works. For example: "Wanna go get a beer after work?" "Ah, I can't. I'm Mormon. We don't drink" = real possibility and a perfectly fine response. "Wanna go to a hotel on our lunch break and cheat on your wife with me?" "Ah, I can't. I'm Married." = unlikely scenario.
    That being said, I take your point. I'm just not sure it applies to the perfectly fine response in the likely scenarios where one might actually say, "I can't, I'm Mormon", wherein hardly anyone, if any at all, actually means, "I would if I could but I can't because I have no agency in the matter. But I secretly really want to."
    Agreed. Better.
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    person0 reacted to The Folk Prophet in 3 Reasons You Should Stop Saying, ‘I Can’t, I’m Mormon’   
    I think it takes a special kind of purposeful obtuseness to fail to understand that someone saying "I can't drink because I'm Mormon" means anything other than, "I choose not to drink because I'm Mormon".
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    person0 got a reaction from Anddenex in Security to never fall away from the church? Here it is.   
    I believe I understand you're main point on this, and you are absolutely right that there's no way this person was actually 'all in' as they claim.  The fact that they believed the General Authorities were saying and doing hurtful things is evidence enough.  When do the GA's actually do and say hurtful things?  Except for the occasional times when they may be acting individually and not within their calling, the ones who are hurt are most often the wicked/guilty who take the truth to be hard.  One huge problem is that many lie to themselves or lead themselves to believe they are truly 'all in' just because they are studying their scriptures the right way like they hadn't done before; that's not enough.
    With that in mind, it is also true that it's not always that simple.  Often those who are taking offense are offended by their interpretation of actions/statements rather than the actual thing that was done/said and the true meaning/intention.  In the end, in this persons case, they really weren't 'all in', because they didn't adequately seek additional interpretation of what was said/done, nor appropriately reevaluate their own opinion on the matter to determine that the GA's were right and they were wrong.  Now what the reason is behind why they weren't doing that is what is left for discovery.
    Either the Church is true, or it's not, it is that simple (conceptually).  If it's not, one then must determine how important that is to their ideals of religion and the universe, and act accordingly.  If it is, then one must figure out what is wrong with themselves, and change.  Too many people believe it is true but do not change, or refuse to; those people are not 'all in' either.
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    person0 got a reaction from Blueskye2 in One Word to Describe YOU   
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    person0 got a reaction from my two cents in One Word to Describe YOU   
    Mormon
    Where I live, the statistical chance that someone else would use this word is near zero.  If this word was offensive to the interviewer, I don't want to work for them anyway.  If they interpret the ideals behind it, as many of my current bosses and co-workers do, scout-law-esque, then it would be to my advantage.  Regardless, chances are they would remember it!  I have no qualms with my religion being a factor for or against my being hired in today's society (even though it's technically illegal).  Thus far, it has come up in every serious employment endeavor I've ever had, and the times it affected me negatively, I'm glad I found employment elsewhere.
    Anecdote:  At my current employer's annual retreat, they always purchase yoohoo as a special option since I don't drink alcohol.  Interestingly, it's now pretty much the only ever time I drink the stuff.  When I went to the first retreat they came to me and asked what special item I would like them to bring to drink.  They were thinking alcohol, it didn't cross my mind and I essentially said, "I don't know. . . yoohoo!"  They laughed, then thought it was awesome.  There has been yoohoo every year since, and others have joined in on the enjoyment as well.  
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    person0 got a reaction from Rob Osborn in Security to never fall away from the church? Here it is.   
    I believe I understand you're main point on this, and you are absolutely right that there's no way this person was actually 'all in' as they claim.  The fact that they believed the General Authorities were saying and doing hurtful things is evidence enough.  When do the GA's actually do and say hurtful things?  Except for the occasional times when they may be acting individually and not within their calling, the ones who are hurt are most often the wicked/guilty who take the truth to be hard.  One huge problem is that many lie to themselves or lead themselves to believe they are truly 'all in' just because they are studying their scriptures the right way like they hadn't done before; that's not enough.
    With that in mind, it is also true that it's not always that simple.  Often those who are taking offense are offended by their interpretation of actions/statements rather than the actual thing that was done/said and the true meaning/intention.  In the end, in this persons case, they really weren't 'all in', because they didn't adequately seek additional interpretation of what was said/done, nor appropriately reevaluate their own opinion on the matter to determine that the GA's were right and they were wrong.  Now what the reason is behind why they weren't doing that is what is left for discovery.
    Either the Church is true, or it's not, it is that simple (conceptually).  If it's not, one then must determine how important that is to their ideals of religion and the universe, and act accordingly.  If it is, then one must figure out what is wrong with themselves, and change.  Too many people believe it is true but do not change, or refuse to; those people are not 'all in' either.
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    person0 got a reaction from unixknight in One Word to Describe YOU   
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    person0 got a reaction from SilentOne in 1 Nephi Chapter 9 - May 9, 2017   
    Most of this chapter exists because Nephi referred to 'these plates' in the previous verse. Since, as is noted below, Nephi didn't know the Lords purpose for wanting the small plates, then whether before or after chiseling verse 1, he realized he was going to have to explain what he meant in case a later reader had not already read, or was not aware of the other plates.  It's interesting how much time and effort we devote in life explaining things to other people that we understand clearly but that they might not understand without additional information.  That is not necessarily a bad thing, simply noteworthy.  We teach people the gospel, and then often must explain to whatever level of depth is needed for it to click in their mind sufficiently that the Spirit can act upon them.  The same happens we teach or learn a new principle and the teacher says something like: "In order to understand what I'm going to teach you, you need to know [x], however, we really aren't going to go into [x] right now, you just have to know about it and then we will go into it more next week. . ."
    Just as Adam and others, Nephi was willing to keep the commandments of the Lord for no other reason than the fact that He commanded it.  This is discussed often.  What I find especially interesting on this read through is that Nephi automatically assumed and acknowledged that the purpose for making the additional set of plates was wise.  How many people are more like Jonah at first and fail to consider the infinite wisdom of the Lord, or forget that he is able to do all things.  At this point in his life, Nephi had enough experiences and witnesses that he likely was unwilling to question the Lord.  While unproven, I think it reasonable to assume his pivotal moment was the experience of killing Laban.  Nephi's obedience regarding the plates later made up for Joseph Smith's failure of the same.
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    person0 got a reaction from Sunday21 in One Word to Describe YOU   
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    Where I live, the statistical chance that someone else would use this word is near zero.  If this word was offensive to the interviewer, I don't want to work for them anyway.  If they interpret the ideals behind it, as many of my current bosses and co-workers do, scout-law-esque, then it would be to my advantage.  Regardless, chances are they would remember it!  I have no qualms with my religion being a factor for or against my being hired in today's society (even though it's technically illegal).  Thus far, it has come up in every serious employment endeavor I've ever had, and the times it affected me negatively, I'm glad I found employment elsewhere.
    Anecdote:  At my current employer's annual retreat, they always purchase yoohoo as a special option since I don't drink alcohol.  Interestingly, it's now pretty much the only ever time I drink the stuff.  When I went to the first retreat they came to me and asked what special item I would like them to bring to drink.  They were thinking alcohol, it didn't cross my mind and I essentially said, "I don't know. . . yoohoo!"  They laughed, then thought it was awesome.  There has been yoohoo every year since, and others have joined in on the enjoyment as well.  
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    person0 got a reaction from JohnsonJones in What does "continuation of the seeds forever" mean?   
    Answer: