Snigmorder

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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Sunday21 in Future Prophets and Apostles   
    I'm betting Tad R. Callister is the next apostle. No particular reason, I just like him.
    I'm also betting D. Todd Christofferson ends up president, just for fun.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from wenglund in Jesus Christ Savior of the Universe/Multiverse?   
    Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, and rejoice ye inhabitants thereof, for the Lord is God, and beside him there is no Savior.
    Great is his wisdom, marvelous are his ways, and the extent of his doings none can find out.
    -D&C 76:1-2

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    Snigmorder got a reaction from wenglund in Jesus Christ Savior of the Universe/Multiverse?   
    There's no profit in speculating about something we physically cannot understand. 
    A better question might be, have you blessed someone's life today?
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from brlenox in Does masterbation break the law of chastity?   
    Absolutely
    Fom my own personal experience, masturbation is the catalyst for all other perversions and sexual defilements. I am inadequate to express in words how wrong this practice is. It is not innocent or "not that bad." In my opinion, it is foremost among sexual wrongs, not by law, but by the danger and potential it carries. 
    Pornography is arousal on demand. The things which you see in pornography are things you were never supposed to see. It broadens what's possible in your descent down the hole of depravity, it is a rocket fuel for personal and social wickedness. Couple that with the self agitation of the genitals and you have a disturbing situation.
    Let me tell you a short story. I've had a masturbation problem since I was 6 or 7 and a pornography problem since 15. The only attraction I'd ever had for girls was "sexual" (or a variation thereof.) They were a pillar of flesh whose individual parts I got to fantasize about and stare at on the computer. 
    Since I'm anonymous, I'll share something else with you, something you might hear when discussing porn addiction. I got bored of "normal porn" and slowly ventured into gay porn, then slowly into beastiality, then slowly into pornographic cartoons of children.
    The constant sexual haze I had been subject to, and the neurological changes which accompanied it, ruined any normal response to the opposite sex I was supposed to have. This changed at age 22 and only after years of trying to quit and prayer and revelation. As far as I'm concerned it was an act of grace,  that the damage I had inflicted upon myself had begun to reverse and a new view of love and women shown to me by revelation. Nowadays, happily for me, a smiling girl is mind blowing, whereas before I wouldn't have noticed, how gray.
    I still have a problem with pornography and masturbation. However, its not nearly as bad as it used to be. There has been much healing performed.
    Do not trifle with these things. Get away now.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from seashmore in Future Prophets and Apostles   
    I'm betting Tad R. Callister is the next apostle. No particular reason, I just like him.
    I'm also betting D. Todd Christofferson ends up president, just for fun.
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    Snigmorder reacted to Traveler in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    1. Because he was both the law giver and the law proctor.
    1a. The curse of Adam is the curse of man.  The title of "Adam" is symbolic of all mankind.  The curse was death and it was death that had no bearing on Jesus - rather he and he alone has power over death.
    1b.  Because the Father of Jesus was G-d, Jesus was given power over death. 
    2. Because he progressed that far before the foundations of the earth were laid.  What was involved in order for him to obtain such has not been revealed.  Never-the-less, I believe that his livel of intelligence (light of truth) played into it.
    2a. The Father gives unto his children commandments and covenants through his grace.  Therefore, it is because of grace that Jesus (as we all) were able to receive of the covenants and commandments.  I believe we are to understand that Jesus was the most obedient to the covenants and commandments.  This is not to say he never had difficulty but that he was able to overcome any difficulties and obtain a higher level of obedience than anyone else.
    Jesus did not need anyone else to be exalted.  He took upon himself the role of Messiah as a sacrifice and gift to us that we also could be exalted like him and the Father.
    Because it was a title and position given him by the Father.  If one understands kingdoms, then they understand that the supreme Suzerain can give such titles to a subordinate governor (sometimes called a vassal) in any part of his realm.  We do not know the extent of the Father’s kingdom but we do know that Jesus is our “Mediator” and “Advocate” with the Father.  Mediator and advocate are both terms used to designate a subordinate governor for associated subjects with the supreme Suzerain of a Kingdom.  It is also important to note that with the Fall of Adam that mankind became exiles to the divine kingdom of heaven and are under Jesus in a lesser exile kingdom until we can be restored to full citizenship in the kingdom of the Father.
     
    The Traveler
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Sunday21 in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    Here's the exact quote. I think I might have misrepresented it.
    Christ’s Resurrection shows that His existence is independent and everlasting. “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.”17Jesus said:
    “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
    “No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”18
    The Savior is not dependent on food or water or oxygen or any other substance or power or person for life. Both as Jehovah and Messiah, He is the great I Am, the self-existing God.19 He simply is and ever will be.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Sunday21 in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    I didn't know that was a term the Catholics used. By the curse of Adam, I'm referring to the state of being cut off from God both spiritually and temporally, because of the fall. I don't know if the church uses the term, or the scriptures.
     
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    Snigmorder reacted to Vort in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    This sort of question is so nebulous as to be impossible to answer. "Why"? Because he was sinless. Because he was diligent. Because he was the Son. Because he was greater than all the rest. And really, how do any of those answer the question?
    Not trying to play semantic games. I honestly believe the question is not a useful one.
    It doesn't mean anything. This idea, insofar as it exists at all, is the Mormon equivalent of the Catholic doctrine of Mary's Immaculate Conception. We do not believe that Catholic doctrine, because we disbelieve the foundations of its very existence -- that all men and women, except Mary, are born under the mortal stain of Adam's sin.
    Ah, yes, the old "Jesus as demigod" trope. Jesus was like Achilles, or Hercules, or Mister Spock -- half mortal human, half something superior. The half-something-superior part gives him superhuman abilities in some way, allowing him to transcend his humanity.
    This is a very popular Mormon heresy. But make no mistake, it is very much a heresy. Jesus was a man, just like we are men. He was subject to like passions, to like temptations, and IMO to like weaknesses of the flesh. Jesus' Secret Sauce wasn't his parentage. It was that he was the greatest of all, God made flesh. Jesus won through because of his own virtue, not because of the magical armor of protection, Special Sword + a billion, and genetic inheritance he received at birth.
    Your Father is God. That makes you potentially very special. But Jesus is far greater. That's the point.
    I don't know. It is more than simply that the premortal Jesus earned a higher position than us. This is an area where AFAIK we don't have specific revelation. People tend to fill in the holes with speculation and logical-seeming extensions. I believe the real answer is that we don't know.
    This much seems indisputable.
    I do not know exactly what Elder Christofferson meant. I don't know what it could mean that someone "exists independently of any other person". I do not see how the Son could have power and existence independent of the Father, except in the sense that each of us is an eternal, self-existent being. So again, I don't know.
    Because he is God. Because he fulfills the definition of the word "God". Because there is one God, and that God is the Father, and the Son has received of the fulness of the Father and his is agent in every respect. That's my best take on it.
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    Snigmorder reacted to Sunday21 in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    @Snigmorder 1. Why was Jesus able to satisfy the Law?
    He was perfect like the spotless sacrificial lamb and so a worthy sacrifice. He was half Divine and thus had the physical power to stop his torment and destroy his tormentors.
    1a. What does it mean that the curse of Adam had no bearing on Jesus?
    i did not realize that we believed in the curse of Adam. I thought this was a Catholic concept. Article of faith 2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
    1b. I've heard it said that Jesus has power because his Father was God. This sounds wrong because it suggests that power is genetic. Therefore, I could have power as well if my Father is also God.    
    You have inherited greatness and virtues from Heaveny Father.
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    Snigmorder reacted to james12 in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    1. Jesus satisfied the law of Moses in that he kept the requirements of it. No other person could have kept all the statutes except for Jesus. 
    1a. Our own imperfections coupled with Adam's transgression cut us off from full and complete communication with God. Jesus, upon entering this world suffered no such separation. Because he was more advanced than us he was not cut off from God as are we. 
    1b. I believe there is a mystery here. Jesus is called the first born in the spirit and the only begotten in the flesh. His unique status was earned over time before entering this mortality. The fact that is mortal Father was God is due to his obedience and not simply his genes. 
    2. Christ had progressed further than us before this earth life. For that reason he was the Lord. 
    2a. Yes Jesus did obtain his pre-mortal intelligence and power through obedience. 
    3. All beings, including ourselves, are independent in their own sphere. Like Jesus, a portion of who we are is not created, nor indeed can be as Joseph Smith stated in the King Follet discourse. We are free to act. God cannot take it away, only we ourselves through our own disobedience can give it up. 
    4. Because of the glory and stature he obtained before this life. 
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    Snigmorder reacted to CV75 in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    Just to briefly address each question:
    1. To satisfy the Law (the capital "L" conveying the Eternal law governing all God's children qualifying for the second estate) refers to singularly meeting the demands of justice (physical and spiritual death) upon all who break it, or meeting these demands by proxy. There are many ways to break the Law: willfully, ignorantly, and by proxy (i.e. the Fall of Adam). There is only one way to receive the benefit of this satisfaction (willfully).
    1a. It think the curse of Adam did have bearing on Jesus in that He could physically die and could be tempted. Do you have a reference that it didn't?
    1b. We too have power because our Father is God. he has more power (even "all") by virtue of His intelligence and use of agency.
    2. See 1b.
    2a. I believe this is the case, to the extent a pre-mortal being can progress. Jesus became part of the Godhead (the Divine Attribute) consisting at the minimum of a Council of Gods: the Father, who has a body and the Holy Spirit, who does not.
    3. The talk says:
    “Christ’s Resurrection shows that His existence is independent and everlasting. “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.” In this context, "existence" refers to the resurrected and not any other state. While we rely on him for our resurrection, He has that power within Himself, given Him of the Father.
    “The Savior is not dependent on food or water or oxygen or any other substance or power or person for life. Both as Jehovah and Messiah, He is the great I Am, the self-existing God. He simply is and ever will be.” In this context, "life" is also the resurrected state.
    He is the First-fruit, and became such independently; we can become like Him but only through His merits and works.
    4. Because He achieved Godhood in each estate by becoming one with the Father to the requisite degree to be one with Him in carrying out His work and glory, the idea being to offer every opportunity to bring the rest of us along.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from MrShorty in I have some questions about Jesus.   
    1. Why was Jesus able to satisfy the Law?
    1a. What does it mean that the curse of Adam had no bearing on Jesus?
    1b. I've heard it said that Jesus has power because his Father was God. This sounds wrong because it suggests that power is genetic. Therefore, I could have power as well if my Father is also God.    
     
    2. Why was Christ able to be the Lord Omnipotent in his pre mortality? Was it his level of intelligence? What was it about Jesus that made him able to be the Lord Omnipotent? God gave him power, but why Jesus?
    2a. Did Jesus abtain his pre mortal intelligence by moving from grace to grace by his own obedience and devotion to the Father? Is this how he became like unto God?
     
    3. D Todd christofferson, in his talk titled "The Resurrection of Jesus Christ," states that Christ exists independent of any other person, he has power of himself to exist. How is this possible? Does this mean that Christ's person has power independent of the father? From whence has this power come? Is it a generation of his body? Is it a gift from the Father that the Father can't take away? 
     
    4. Why can we call Christ, God? In both pre and post mortality?
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    Snigmorder reacted to Rob Osborn in The Book of Mormon as a historical text and why it does matter.   
    Im hearing more and more about my fellow saints who are disbelieving the Book of Mormon as being historical. They say it doesnt matter and that its the inspirational message of its content that matters. Heres why I believe they are wrong where it matters the most. The paramount claim of the Book of Mormon is that it states it is "Another Testament of Jesus Christ". To be a Christian means one believes that Jesus Christ is our savior, that he was born of the virgin Mary, that he lived and resided in his journey of mortality in and around Jerusalem as the Bible states, that he was crucified and was resurrected. It means that one has to believe literally in Jesus Christ and his ministry to his people in real historical context that the events really happened. Mormons must believe in all of that too plus that same conviction that the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be- another testament of Jesus Christ as he visited a civilization, a real historical people who had prophets, seers, missionaries, etc, who kept an actual physical set of records that they wrote or inscribed upon the actual events as was testified to them. Why does this matter?
    Because just as its impossible to claim to be Christian if you disbelieve the New Testament account of Jesus Christ and his ministry as a literal event, so too is it the same to claim to be Mormon and disbelieve the Book of Mormons account of Jesus Christ and his ministry to the Americas after his resurrection as literal. To claim to be Christian is to claim the New Testament is true in testifying of the literal historical Jesus Christ that ministered in real history to a real people. To claim to be Mormon is the same as being Christian plus also that same conviction that the Book of Mormon is another testament of the literal historical Jesus Christ that ministered yet again in real history to a real people.
    So, to hear a fellow LDS claim to believe and yet disbelieve the Book of Mormon as historical is sad. Despite what may appear to be a lack of evidence, despite what modern secularism has to say we must stand up as saints and proclaim loudly that the Book of Mormon is real, it is a true history of a real fallen people, that Jesus Christ really did minister somewhere in the Americas after his resurrection just as the Book of Mormon claims. If we cant testify of that, believe in that, we arent to be, nor can be, called LDS.
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    Snigmorder reacted to Anonymous1101 in Does masterbation break the law of chastity?   
    To all of you who have suggested that I stop I want to rephrase what I said, what I should have said is this, i used to frequently masturbate and look at pornography, since then I have talked with my bishop and talked with therapists about it at this point in my recovery I don't relapse very often however they do happen because it is a very strong addiction and the last time I did it was about three months ago however I was wondering if it broke the law of chastity, also thank you all for your concern and answers.
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    Snigmorder reacted to chasingthewind in Does masterbation break the law of chastity?   
    Bad news: Yes, it does.  
    Good news: As a former porn-addict, I can testify that breaking a porn-addiction is a wonderful opportunity to experience the enabling power of Christ!  By submitting myself to Christ, I made progress resisting pornography I didn't think was even possible!  My testimony of the enabling power of the Atonement is now unshakable!  And Christ will do the same for you!  Remember, God never gives us a commandment - such as the LoC - without first providing a way for us to fulfill it!
    Good luck on your journey, brother!  Check out reddit.com/r/nofapchristians/ if you need a online support group.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from seashmore in Temple marriage for the sole purpose of having sex?   
    There has never been a time when the institution of marriage was for sex. It does not matter, worlds without end, what any man on this earth ever said about marriage. The everlasting God lives in the family unit and He is the Patriarch, He is the Father.
    Marriage, the only marriage that has any legal efficacy in the universe, is for the purpose of starting, growing, and raising a family. We call this Eternal Life. Not for sex.
    I'm not too worried about your friend's brother. Because a sealing does not substitute for obedience. Those who make a mockery of the covenant have theirs. Hopefully it's not a waste of the wife's time in the end.
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    Snigmorder reacted to chasingthewind in Temple marriage for the sole purpose of having sex?   
    Just recently a female friend of mine told me that one of her brothers got married for the sole purpose of having sex.  What are your thoughts on this?  Personally, I think when someone behaves in such a manner they are showing that they don't really believe in God.  If they really believed in God, they'd believe He knows all of their thoughts, intentions, desires, and motivations.  They'd believe God is the judge of their heart (not just the judge of their actions) and they couldn't get away with denigrating God's holy temple into a place to fulfill their lustful desires.  So this person doesn't really believe in God at all.  They're an atheist at heart all while giving the outward appearance of being a 'faithful member'.  Honestly, if all you're interested in is sex then you'd be better off going to a strip club, finding a prostitute, watching pornography, etc.  Keep filthiness where it belongs instead of bringing it into God's temple.  
     
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Happy Hiker in Fair Mormon: another source for answers to questions about lds faith   
    One of my favorite FAIR conference presentations recently re-posted.
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Sunday21 in Fair Mormon: another source for answers to questions about lds faith   
    Don't tempt me or I'll tell the zookeepers to fill your water hole with the choicest of liquid compounds.
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    Snigmorder reacted to Midwest LDS in Two lies and a truth   
    @Snigmorder um number 2?
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    Snigmorder reacted to prisonchaplain in Fair Mormon: another source for answers to questions about lds faith   
    Didn't the guy who founded that podcast leave the church?  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/10/john-dehlin-excommunication_n_6653090.html
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    Snigmorder got a reaction from Sunday21 in Fair Mormon: another source for answers to questions about lds faith   
    The complacency of Mormon stories makes me spit.
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