Grunt

Coming out isn't the same as calling out.

For the record, I don't see how obesity is sinful either, from "Grunt's Point of View". I'm just trying to connect the dots of LDS scripture. If X is sinful because of Y, and Z is also Y, the Z must also be sinful. Only that obviously doesn't work.

Why on earth would you call someone out? If someone wants to share their struggles that's their business.

I'm going to attempt to remove myself from this portion of the discussion because I've stated my opinion and I'm not qualified to speak on this as it relates to LDS.

Got it. That was my point. It's not "interpretation", it was laid out on LDS. I believe @zil was the one who linked to it in my question about masturbation.

Well, that's not exactly true. If that's the case, you could apply it to addiction as well. Obesity, with the very rare exception, is a choice

Assuming a belief in modern revelation, are we supposed to interpret anything?

You've confused me with the cheetos and coke, but ignoring that what you've stated is why I get confused. I tried to stop looking at the "why" and instead focused on the "what", but people keep tossing "why" out there as though it were important. If it IS important than obesity SHOULD be a sin.

I don't know what a Patriarchal blessing is. I can ask the missionaries.

What is that, if you don't mind my asking?

No, but I could have sworn I saw a tail during principles class today.

I was starting to get a little nervous.......

I need to get better at this. I should set a time period "I will pray every day at X o'clock for X number of days.

That helped a lot. Thank you.

Wait, what?

There are factors at play in everything, but with rare exceptions, people choose to be obese.

Thanks. You were very clear and I agreed with much of it. Much of this stems from my lack of complete acceptance of "modern revelation". One of the things that bothers me about much of this is the constant theme of "body is a sacred temple" as a reason why many of these things are sinful. Why is obesity ignored? Either we pick and choose or it just SEEMS that way because those are the issues brought up on this board. I suppose that is the most obvious answer, since I don't hear people talking about any WoW violations when I'm at church. I wonder how they choose what is or isn't important for a temple recommend.

Are many of those things people don't already know? I can see how the church could help with this, but it almost seems like people expect the church to fix it, or they are at fault for not correcting the issue. What do Mormons view the role of the church to be? -The church could start a support group, but those already exist. -Aren't parents tasked with raising their children and being their morality coaches? Perhaps the church could provide education to parents on how to properly address this from early ages. -Isn't a child developing tools to deal with loneliness, self-pity, and stress part of growing up? I submit that part of the problem children have today is we've given them too much. We haven't provided them the foundation and support then stepped back and let them develop their own coping mechanisms. We've tried to protect them from every bump and bruise, thus creating a generation of children who can't cope unless we do it for them. I believe in some ways churches become over-protective parents to their flock. As a result, their flock depends on the church to fix their problems and blames the flock for their own spiritual failures. I think this thread is a good example of it. The tools to combat pornography addictions ARE out there if people choose to take advantage of them. If someone truly wants to quit pornography they can. They just have to want to badly enough, because it requires sacrifice. On a side note, I saw a mention of masturbation addiction. I understand addiction of any sort is wrong but is masturbation forbidden? Based upon what?

As soon as we have a decent storage option I'll go solar and/or hydro, even if just for emergencies. I currently use a whole house propane generator now and love it. Tesla's PowerWall is promising, but at 20k installed it's not an economical solution.

The good Doctor Thompson. Never before has a man created such a sweet bachelor party for your taste buds.

I don't particularly agree, but I'm not an expert on the situation or church practice. To me, if the church really wants to help these kids and really wants to remain unsupportive of sinful acts, they should plan their own action.

https://www.drinkmoxie.com/index.php The only soda worth drinking.

ALL I drink is water. UNLESS I treat my self to a soda on the rare occasion. When I do, that soda is Moxie.

Which will never taste better than Moxie.

I'm guessing #1