LDSGator

Absolutely true as well.

I’m the LAST guy who can throw that stone my friend, because I do the same thing.

Oh, dude, I understand fully. I’ve heard of people saying the same things about Carl Sagan.

Just some humor.

Hey bud. Welcome to the forums. It seems like an urban legend to me.

I agree totally. It’s a pejorative that the cool kids called anyone who wasn’t in their group

Usually the greatest, most moral people out there admit how they fall short-and it’s not just lip service for them.

It’s not. We all love you bro.

There is a third option. My devoutly Catholic parents are mortified that I’m LDS. We agree to love one another and don’t talk about religion. Works like a charm, everyone is happy. Maybe parents of LGBTQ+ could do the same?

Understand totally. I don’t disagree, I think distance absolutely plays a part. I’m also super close to my sister, brother in law and parents. So my thoughts on the matter don’t apply to me personally. Having said all that, I do think that people our age tend to from stronger bonds with our friends than in years past. Part of it is because of communication-I can text my family in China and Minnesota 24/7, so the world is much smaller than before. That couldn’t happen in the past.

Do you think that’s why people our age (Gen X, millennials) are often times closer to our friends than our cousins/siblings?

I’m praying for you and your family my friend.

Correct. It’s hard to boycott every company out there that promotes ideas you disagree with. Especially because people won’t boycott things that really inconveniences them. Ask them this-will you boycott your Samsung or Apple phone? They are woke too. What about your car? They support causes you’d cringe at. It’s a bit like having a hunger strike and still eating bread and water. You’ll convince yourself and your friends who already agree with you. The rest of us will remain skeptical.

This “boycott” will go nowhere. The difference between Bud/Target and Chick Fil A is massive. But it does fascinate me that the hard left and right will now boycott the same thing for different reasons. Politics truly does make strange bedfellows.

Thanks @Still_Small_Voice, I had no clue and I never would have guessed that more members live outside the US then in it, given that I think of LDS as being a very “American” faith.

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Wrong. I have great resect for people who disagree with me. Far more than you clearly do because I have good friends from across the spectrum.

And that right-insulting my intelligence-is priceless. Fight on tough guy. You are too intimidating for me.

i can totally live with that. Lol.

I totally agree. If you are so frightened by other lifestyles/viewpoints that you choose to live in an echo chamber that’s fine. You do you. But it’s 1) unrealistic and 2) a little silly for a grown up to live like that. Are you that afraid of everyone else? Yikes. Again though, the Amish and Hasidic (sp?) Jews tend to do that. It’s their life, they seem happy. However I assume they are much smaller populations*. If the LDS church wants to grow, I’m not sure how the members can avoid some interaction with the outside world. *two seconds of Google shows me that Hasidic Jews number 1.8 million and Amish about 360,000. I could be wrong.

I wasn’t aware there were that many LDS in Europe at the time. The horrific killings of the JW’s are well known, and they should be, but it’s clear LDS suffered greatly too. 😞

Speaking of that, I’ll be in Georgia next month bro. Brunswick.

Fair enough. I mostly agree with you but I also use common sense. How you treat others matters. Also, I’m really stupid but I understand a bit about human nature. If you treat others terribly, you’ll treat me terribly too. Even if I behave exactly how you’d like me to. It’s just a matter of time.

I’m curious as to how many in Utah are members. I would guess it’s still well over half who belong to the church.

I don’t disagree with you, but don’t ever forget the social aspect of churches. If someone doesn’t feel comfortable or out of place for whatever reason, all of us should do our best to make them feel welcome.