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  1. Now that you understand that first part let us go heaven and see what happens there. Once a man and a woman is married on the Earth...A Spiritual Line is started for that family. What we do on the earth in this ordinance has repercussion in heaven even concerning a earthly marriage. The act of procreation is an Ordinance and it is Holy few know this.The woman is at the time pro-creating with the Lord. She is also the guardian of the Line here on the earth as well as for the Spiritual line of the family. Adultery on the earth is more than just mixing of bodily fluids and snips of dna it also has an effect on the Spiritual line in heaven. The Lord calls this Confusion. It is also one of the reason why men can have many wives or can more easily remarry. The Law is for earthly marriage..."Until Death do us part" and there is a reason why God allowed this to be included in earthly Marriages and is being removed by the wicked and the blind. Again it is because a earthly marriage has repercussion in heaven. Man cannot undo what GOD has done from heaven. Only GOD and those who hold the keys of the kingdom while acting in righteousness can undo what already been done in heaven. Do you understand now. Procreating is the joining both of the flesh and the Spirit as One...and man cannot affect the Spiritual component of it. The divorce rate is an abomination unto the Lord and it is because the people do not know the Love of GOD nor do manifest it in their marriage. bert10
  2. Yes, there is a difference between a marriage for life and one for eternity. The one for Eternity must be sealed by the promise of the Holy Ghost. Now...read this carefully...the promises of GOD are based on men fulfilling the conditions upon which they are based on. This is taking us from the point. A "conventional" marriage is marriage for life here on the earth...It used to say.."Until death do us part". Basically there should be no divorces. What God has joined for a time or for eternity cannot be put asunder except by God. The point that I was making is that the Oath a man and a woman make to each other is heard in heaven whether a justice of the peace, ship captain is standing there or not. Other cultures until recently did not need licenses or justice of the peace or pastors to have their marriage validated in heaven. fornication is just lust...and it is without the intent to found a family based on love. Getting married with a license was once a law. And law abiding people did and were advised to follow the law. And living together without being Married "conventionally" was seen as unlawful by the law and by the religion that one was in. Now there is no law requiring that man and a woman be married by at least a justice of the peace. A deep abiding love that a man has for a woman and the same the woman has for the man and the intent to love and raise children with each other and with no one else is all that is required. The oath that the man and woman make to each other before their God is binding whether a justice of the peace is standing there or not. bert10
  3. One just has to listen to God. All marriages are Okayed by God the moment a man and a woman decides to live together and then starts a family. And all the Children from such marriages are seen as Holy before the Lord. In order for our "union" to be joined in heaven all that is required is a promise to each other to love each other and forsake all others. God does not require the sanction of a judge, ship captain, or other men endowed by other men in order to sanctify a marriage in heaven. Society and the powers that be....used to demand that we make our union official. However, these have no power over GOD nor can they make a Marriage be "joined" in Heaven. Societal conventions concerning marriages exist for a good reason but they have no power in forcing God to bind them. Matthew 19:5 - And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Matthew 19:6 - Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder There are many billions of marriages made by Christians, Hindus, Muslims etc. over the millenniums of mankind. The marriages between Christians is not any more "valid in heaven" than say two Hindus or Muslims who wish to start a family and promise to love each other and forsake all others. However, Once God has assented to their Joining...Only GOD can put them asunder. Though we receive a divorce in the eyes of society it does not mean that Spiritually God has divorced us from our previous Spouse. Society, their judges, pastors, priests have no power to put asunder what GOD has spiritually joined. Those who are sealed by those who hold the keys of heaven will need to get a divorce from those who hold the keys of heaven. Even so...if all is not done in righteousness...then it is not undone. It is not easy to get a divorce whether one is married in the temple or not. Though in the eyes of society we may be divorced...we do commit Adultery when God has not yet divorced us. The last generation on the earth will a be wicked, degenerate and adulterous generation which God will burn. Adultery....means to dilute to make less pure. We do this to our Spiritual line when we divorce and marry another which we are not authorize to do. We also commit spiritual adultery when we take doctrines from the gospel of perfection in order to bypass the gospel of Repentance. we also commit Spiritual adultery with GOD when we follow our own idols over the will of GOD. bert10
  4. The Wealth of the world is....Not my problem. Still - Stocks and Bonds can be converted into money and money can be converted into land, cattle and malls. Things in themselves are not evil it is what we do with them and how they are used that count. Money is just not used to enslave men...it is also used to put a value on men. What is saving the nations of the world up until now from great wrath..is their ignorance that they are living in and building up Babylon in their wickedness. Prosperity is directly related to the observance of the Sabbath. As the majority of the people in the nations do not remember the law and GOD on the Sabbath...God has begun to remove the prosperity of nations. --------------------------- Concerning Australia..it is the first time I have heard used...the words "Biblical in proportion" when referring to a disaster. I would say get used to hearing such things. Disasters like these will move many nations to the brink of bankruptcies. bert10
  5. That is the beauty of it....It is not my job to judge you whether you are doing good or evil. It is not anybody Job to judge except them that God will appoint as a spiritual leader to you. Do you know why? Because the motivation is of the heart and mind are hidden. And only GOD knows what is in our heart and mind. Only those who are put over your head are allowed to judge you since God would also give them the Spirit of Judgment. Few realize this..but it is not our job to judge others unless God gives to us to do. It is a sin make others walk by our own knowledge of good and evil. We all know that doing certain works on the Sabbath is Generally a sin and we can say it. But to go and say to an individual doing that very same work that it is a sin...is error on our part. We ought to inquire first and then bring the person to a Judge of Israel. WE need to separate the actions from the motivation behind them. Israel had not learned this and were condemned by God as God judged them and applied twain to the level they judged others. For example...GENERALLY we are to do no works on the Sabbath that can be done on other days of the week. And the Jews considered that Healing the sick was a work that could be done on other days of the week. Jesus taught them that works of mercy, love and compassion...was not under the law..because they relate of the Spirit. There are no laws against works of love, mercy or compassion. Do you understand now...whether someone invest in the stock market which is dealing with money as an individual it is not my problem but God's. Doing certain works on the Sabbath is breaking the covenant of the Lord..EXCEPT WHEN GOD says to do it. The question is now...Who can say if an individual that is cutting the grass on the Sabbath is breaking the Sabbath or that GOD has said it should be done for an old lady on that very day? The Lord said Judge ye not. Cutting the grass on the Sabbath is transgressing the laws. But no guilt is attached to it if we are following the Spirit...for God shall Justify before the Father all those who are acting according to His will. bert10
  6. This liberty in Christ as the Apostles taught meant that the laws could be not used to prevent us from doing good according to How God reveals it to us. The people who had received this teaching were warned to not teach it to those whom it would become a stumbling block. also this Liberty in Christ as the Apostles cautioned was not an occasion to fulfill the lusts of flesh. Being Led by the Spirit means to be LED by the Spirit...and it is not for doing our will. For example the law of the Sabbath applies fully except when the Spirit commands to do works that would normally not be done on the Sabbath. A person who is led by the Spirit will not go to football games, spend his time idling at the beach nor buying nor selling on the Sabbath unless he was on a mission from the Spirit. As the apostles said...we do not abolish the law but establish it. Since it is given as a schoolmaster unto Christ. All men are under the law whether they like it or not until they learn to be led by the Spirit. Men are justified by the Spirit. bert10
  7. Not my problem. Though I write post explaining things. One should always remember...that if one is acting under the Spirit of GOD he is Justified in all things that he is guided in. In Galatians it is written if we are led by the Spirit we are not under the law. That is one reason why we cannot judge the liberties of others by our own individual conscience. It is enough to know what is good and evil for ourselves. bert10
  8. First of all.... a marriage is when a man and a woman is "Joined" by God in heaven...can only be put asunder by GOD. For it is written let no man put asunder what God has joined. Governments, judges etc cannot force an divorce on GOD. Even those who possess the keys of the kingdom their "unsealing" are not upheld in heaven if there is any unrighteousness in the whole process. Men can only act by the Spirit of GOd...and The requirements for a divorce by God are extremely rigid. But a separation is more likely than a divorce. Is adultery a good enough reason for divorce? Only to the extent we would ask God to divorce us for our adultery with our idols...be it money, laziness, computer games...which is anything we put before GOD. If men wish to be forgiven..of their spiritual adulteries....they must in turn forgive those who commit such against themselves. That is how it works. Each case is different and man should act according to the Spirit of GOD. Whether GOD allows one to divorce or another not to divorce. That is not our business to judge a particular case. Adultery exist as acts in the flesh and as well Spiritually. A man commits adultery when he has not received a divorce from GOD. Being Legal in the eyes of society is one thing. The will of GOD is another thing. bert10
  9. Do not get it? IF you try it will take time but understanding concerning what I said will come. The law is if we seek we shall find. Babylon stand for the "world" and it also means.... mystery (as in doing in the dark), deception and confusion. If you do not understand what is Babylon how could you heed the call of GOD to leave her so that you do not receive of her plagues? Revelation 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Babylon is all wicked societies that make the world. How can we determine what is a wicked societies? ..the previous post is a help and I will add more here. Over time, Since the Renaissance, Little by Little Satan manipulated men's view point on morality on what good and evil so now they have fulfilled the prophecy...and today have Call good evil and evil good. Our society is based on wickedness. We justify homelessness, poverty, abortion, same sex marriages and make war on other nations under the guise of freedom...Even pornography is now legal. The Divorce rate is a great abomination. Sins that are manifested before men for example... gluttony is the norm in all things. Gluttony with food cannot be hidden. This sin is on the people for all to see. The punishment is obesity, heart diseases, high blood pressures, strokes, diabetes cancers etc. Such societies have forsaken God and God is going to burn them as he did Anciently with such societies. It is only a matter of time. The Gathering is not finished yet. Societies cannot become this wicked if the Religions within it would oppose all the Abominations that societies have legalized today. GOOD GOVERNMENT would see for example the HARM those things do to families and would pass righteous laws. But it does not happen as they continue to legalize and justify great Abominations unto GOD. Money is what sustain such abominations and makes it work. Money is used to corrupt the officials and to enslave the majority. So you see how the societies we have today would not exist if the majority of the people said no. Today no one can survive unless he deals with money...and whomever control money can use it to reward and to punish any individual. It also a great tool to keep everyone in line. Right now the number one priority for all nations is the Economy and this will be used as an excuse to pass legislation to force people into accepting and doing what they do not want to do. Does this help? bert10
  10. Not only is the date 6 April according to the Gregorian Calender ...a day of the salvation of the Lord...the year has also important significance. Nothing is an accident. Among other things...it marks the beginning of the Times of the Restitution of all Things. And this time is exactly 1260 years after the age of the prophets. And this is sufficient for now. But I will add one more bit to this...everything is right on Schedule even the founding of the LDS Church was right on Schedule and was the Appointed time even before the foundation of this world was laid. It was all done according To God's timing. That by itself is a great miracle. bert10
  11. It is more than that. It is to actively participate with Babylon in the subjugation of others thru high profits and interest rates. The Lord commanded His people to not loan with Usury which is the modern method of enslavement. Few of us can buy homes outright and pay cash for it...or even buy a good vehicle without requiring a loan with interest rates attached to it. This is enslavement and the "Establishment" will use the full weight of law in collecting what is due to them. Interest rates are pretty awful, but compound interest rate is devilish in its nature and keeps adding even on the Sabbath. It is of the Devil and anyone participating in this system is working with the Devil. Those of us who do not make a high salary have to borrow and be made to pay the interest rate there is no other choice. But to invest and incur on others what is done to us...is not correct. The Dollar says in GOD We trust doesn't it? I sold all my investments and the asset of my house against my debt ratio is good. If I sold my home I would have money left over after all my debts are paid off. As long as I do not go over, So far so good. But the day is not far off when the merchants of the earth shall mourn because the people do not buy their wares anymore [Revelation] and this will happen when money is not worth more than the piece of paper that it is printed on. Do not be deceived God is going to cause the monetary system which was founded in Babylon to completely collapse. Babylon is upheld by three legs like a stool. And if one of the legs is taken out...it is become extremely unstable. The legs that uphold modern day Babylone are the financial system, the Religious system and the government system. Religion is too far gone in darkness for God to use it, the governments are corrupt so GOD cannot appeal to them...that leaves the financial system which is the right tool at this time to use, to bring down all the corrupt societies and their wickedness such as abortions and so on. bert10
  12. I believe it will take an act of GOD for this to happen in our Church. Most likely when the One mighty and Strong come to set the house of the Lord in order. And if any women dares to use the priesthood which she is born with..she will be persecuted for it...even though she be led by the Spirit and Jesus has justified it. Only LDS have a hope of believing this post...that Women get their priesthood from their Heavenly Mother. Why? Because procreating is an ORDINANCE and all Ordinances requires a Priesthood to administer it. Because all things that come from an Ordinance is holy and Children are Holy before the Lord until they know the law and first choose darkness over light. It is the way things are today. J. Smith was prevented from releasing this doctrine church wide and making it a commandment concerning woman and the priesthood. Such things are not an accident but wisdom in GOD and maybe He will reveal it at a later times. Most likely is for giving men an opportunity to cease from being a natural man by learning to love and serve as woman naturally do. This is what the priesthood is suppose to do for them. With this priesthood there is a danger that women would try to rule the man. But if all love GOD ...they will honor and obey the order He set at the beginning. bert10
  13. Agreed. Tradition is a poor guide for truth. bert10
  14. Advice from MormonMusic is good. "Unconditional Love" is also good and will fulfill all of that and more. It will also help you deal with Jealousies, anger issues. This coupled with praising and thanking GOD for the hurt and pain.... will bring the power of GOD in your life. This could be a scary thing as GOD will act in His own way. It is okay to say to the Lord that you want your wife back. That you are praising Him and thanking because you want to turn a negative into a positive. And that you know that God is permitting it to happen and that you love God and you know that it will work out for your good regardless of how it will end. Again there is not a problem in admitting to the Lord in a prayer that you are hurt and want your wife back. That you are not using Praising and thanking Him in order to get your will done. But His will be done. For example...when she goes over to her friends house...PRaise and thank GOD for your hurt because she is dishonoring you and rebelling against you and praise and thank GOD that it will work for your good. Do this as long as she is gone...or everything your thoughts turn to it. For me when I did this....my wife's car slid into a snowbank and when she tried to push it out...she severely strained her chest muscles front and also the back. This put her out of commission for almost six weeks. This bought me time for her to see me as I am. As I am doing my best all the time to live "Unconditional Love". Whenever there was conflict and anger it came from her end...and I responded by using "Unconditional Love" which many times left her with no place to go. People need to be justified and so starting an argument is one way for a spouse to soothe their conscience and then go out and do what is wicked. But if you leave them with no place to go...the condemnation is returned on their head increased a hundred fold for the pain and hurt they do to you. Remember a law of heaven is ...everything we do to another is returned on our head for good or evil increased a hundred fold. It is easy for a person to be headstrong, proud and independent and have false philosophies when everything is relatively going okay in one's life. It is another thing when God gets involved in the details of our life. Thanking and praising is a prayer that can become a constant prayer the more we do it. It becomes automatic after a while. We not just thank and praise GOD for what we think are good things in our lives, we do it for everything else. Even when we get a red light we praise and thank GOD or when someone gives us the finger on the highway, get my drift? Who knows if that red light prevented us from a big crash down the road and so on. Praising and thanking GOD will bring our situation constantly before His face...and trust me sooner or later God will do something, just so you will thank Him and praise Him for other things. "Unconditional Love" will work at changing yourself first. And it is something you give without being acknowledged or being thanked. It must be a gift. It manifest itself by service, patience and increase love for your spouse even when they do things that are hurtful. This love has no end. And if GOD deems that you are to have another companion...He will bring about the conditions for it. This Love does not end for your wife even if you divorce...and since it is "limitless" you will be able to love your new companion if such become the case without your former love dying. It works this way..the Trickle will become a stream in time and the stream will become a mighty river. That is right unconditional Love is also called Living waters. That is how GOD can still love a man who fall and enter into sin. And this also how we can still love a person who gives us hurt and pain. There is another thing you can do to quick start this...I saw the Christian movie "Fire proof" and in it the person in order to save his marriage did a course called "Love dare" I believe that is what it is called. I have researched some of it...and it has some good ideas. Which would fall under "Unconditional Love" And this could be a quick start for you. bert10
  15. To all: Hopefully this is my last post on this subject... I gave the reasons why things are the way they are today. It should not be hard to foresee a day soon where Women are going to be called 1. "Priestesses and Queens unto the Most High" and men shall be called 2. "Priests and Kings unto the Most High." The Man and the woman are ONE And so is the Priesthood. All things are ONE in GOD. The Mighty and Strong one as it is prophesied in LDS prophecies ....shall come and set the house of GOD in order. In all things pertaining to priesthood and inheritances and ordinances. So for you woman...reading my posts...hang tight and do not be discouraged. The things the way they are today...is not the last words on this. And for men reading my posts... Anyone acting under the guidance of the Spirit is justified in all things that the Spirit commands. Even if it is given to a woman to do the lay on of hands for a healing. Now if any woman does act in the capacity of a priest. I for one will not judge her. She may be acting by the Spirit of GOD. And GOD has been known in the past to do things to astound us. Also it is not my business if a woman decides to act in such manner. It is not my church nor my gospel. Miriam was a prophetess and the office of prophets belongs to the priesthood. Though Miriam was not permitted to act in the Church...Moses could have changed this. But He did not. bert10
  16. Soulsearcher - Have you read what I posted on "Unconditional Love". What others do is not my concern but God's concern. I have no authority over the people thereby I have no responsibility. "Unconditional Love" coupled with praising and thanking God for our pain and situation we are in...works. It is God that open doors and it is God that closes them. Righteous woman have power with GOD and God can sort out their problems. It may not be in the way they expect...but God will sort it out. So do righteous men have power with GOD. Jacob by error cursed Rachel and she died later on in childbirth. There certain powers that should only be exercised at the command of GOD. But Jacob never for a moment expected Rachel to have stolen the Idols of his father in law. So by bringing the power of GOD in our lives we do not need to do anything except love our spouse and let act God in our marriage. IF there is a door being closed..we are not responsible for it...it is GOD's doing and is His will. IF we keep our will out of it...things will be better much quicker. It is written that "perfect Love" casteth out fear. "Perfect Love" is "Unconditional Love" and people living this love do not force their spouse, nor exert control in a mean way. It is patience, forgiveness, and mercy when our spouse hurt us. And it does not take away the "free will" of our spouse even if it will lead to much hardships down the road. What you say is true...hence the prophecy of the Lord.. by Isaiah.....I will make men few. Man will be more precious and a golden wedge of Ophir. In other works..Most men are going to be destroyed because of their righteousness. The ratio of survivors will be 7 women to one man. This is prophesied..as saying that seven women shall take hold of one man and they shall asked to be called by His name in order take away from them the reproach of the Lord. I know this is true because, Adam and Eve first taught their sons and daughters...that it should be the woman that should do the asking...since they would be putting themselves under the leadership of their husband. And they did counseled their daughters to marry righteous and worthy husbands. In those early days it was forbidden for the man to ask a woman to marry Him. How quickly did Satan turn this around. However, the world at large is ignorant of this fact and is not held fully accountable by GOD. Now before I leave...Conditional Love is called darkness by the Lord because it is filled with fears and it is written that fears is torment. Most marriages are based on Conditional Love sense it is our senses that are awakened. And 100% of divorces is because either one or both people in the marriage do not live "Unconditional Love" If one Spouse has hardened their hearts as stones then nothing can reach them until it is broken in small pieces by the Lord. And God is very good at breaking rocky hearts. bert10
  17. This is not LDS teachings. Now what I am about to say has not yet been re-confirmed by the Spirit. Woman have their own priesthood and they automatically get it when they are born. They cannot receive the priesthood of men. They receive the same priesthood of their Heavenly Mother have in heaven. The reason for this is because love and to serve others are already woven in the nature of woman. They do serve and love much better than men. The Lord wish men to learn and love and serve each other as women do. So they must first become worthy of receiving the priesthood and when they do receive it, the priesthood is about Love and service...to each other. The Father has a role specific to His gender the priesthood for it. And our Heavenly Mother as a role specific to her Gender and nature and the priesthood for it. This is from myself. Women cannot possibly create life in conjunction with heaven unless they had a priesthood. Pro-Creating life is an ordinance and it requires a priesthood for all things in an ordinance is Holy. There is a priesthood for women and women receive it automatically at birth and there is a priesthood for men and men must qualify for it. A woman cannot receive the priesthood of men and be given authority over the man. The Lord by Isaiah prophesied of our day when society has already overturn the Edicts of GOD. The children are become oppressors and women rule over men. And God said that it is the leaders pf the Lord's people that have caused the people to err. Both the LDS and the Christian Leaders have failed in this thing. In judgment God is going to first ask the man concerning his family. Jut like He did for Adam and Eve. For God has given the authority and responsibility for the family to the husband. Until then the war on who is going to rule in the home will continue to take its toll and remove the peace and the divorce rate will not go down to less than 1 in 10,000 marriages. The last time I read the Stats...90% divorce rate is reached before the 50th anniversary. This is not the only reason why the marriage rate is so high..there are others. And as long as men and women continue to adopt worldly philosophies and teachings three out of 10 marriages will know hell on the earth. [Anger, hate, jealousies torments etc] bert10
  18. The heart can be affected in love for you....only by "Unconditional Love" it is the power of GOD. I do not know what is in store for your wife. You cannot change your wife heart by force or others things that the world Teach. You can only change yourself and be an example to her and to other people around you. What is "Unconditional Love" It is kindness of thoughts and actions and words regardless of what your wife do to you or do not do for you. Your wife has nothing to do to gain this "Love". She is entitled to it because she is your wife. This type of Love cannot earned but can only be given as a gift while expecting nothing in return. IF you get angry....by your wife attitudes and doings...then you cannot be living "Unconditional Love". I did not say that you cannot be hurt..but do not let it go to anger which is darkness. Consecrate your hurt to GOD...and let God deal with it. ----------------------------------------- This stuff takes time to learn how to live it and it takes time to change the heart of a loved one by it. The course LOVE DARE...seems to be a quick start in it. Check out the movie "Fireproof" It will help. Think about it......It is very hard to leave someone who loves unconditionally. A person who accepts you just as you are...and does not seek to impose changes by force or by conditions. Forgiveness and mercy is easily given by someone who lives "Unconditional Love" and also Thanksgiving and praise to GOD for whatever is causing us hurt and pain comes easily for these. The power of faith thru Love is what GOD taught. IF you do the above Faith and Love will come in your heart and then you can work on others. bert10
  19. D&C Official Declaration--1 "Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy--" Need I say more? Like I said such policies is commanded at the top of the Church all the way down. There are no policies for ordaining women at this time. bert10
  20. Where did GOD instruct J. Smith to give priesthood to woman? And give me the name of the person who was ordained as a priestess? Such a thing would need to be a commandment to the whole CHURCH. And the principle would need to be taught to the whole church. bert10
  21. Woman could not have been legally given the priesthood. They can do many things but they cannot have the priesthood which would put them in a position of power and authority over the man and this cannot be until GOD changes the order..that He set at the fall. Until GOD changes it...the desire of woman shall be to their husband and their husband shall rule over them. There is no other way around this. Anyone who teach to undo what GOD has ordained are in darkness and they shall reap great condemnations for doing so. Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. I will add another verse that I did not do so previously here that further describes the salvation of women. 1 Timothy 2:14 - And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 1 Timothy 2:15 - Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety Did you read the quote of Isaiah from God? About children being oppressors and woman ruling over men...and to whom did GOD lay the charge to for doing this? As for my people they who which lead thee cause thee to err Isaiah 3:12 - As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. Please read my other posts on this. I tell you the truth the divorce rate cannot go down until men and woman choose to walk in the paths that God has ordained. bert10
  22. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. (Lord via Isaiah) A lot of people are reluctant to teach the truth. Though a woman may not hold the priesthood at this time nor have authority over the man...they need not be Spiritually powerless. Hope, Love, Faith and charity is not dependent on priesthood nor on anything else. IT is Righteousness that brings the power of GOD in our lives. However, none have any authority to change the order of Authority that GOD set up at the FALL. The order of authority between God to man and from man to woman was set at the fall by God Himself. If you noticed GOD first addressed Adam for an account for His family...not Eve. T The Order of the Punishment is reversed it began with the most guilty which was the Serpent, then to Eve, then to Adam. It was also taught in the NT...that the Head of woman is man and the head of man is Christ and the head of Christ is the FATHER. A woman cannot hold authority over men until GOD changes the order. See Genesis and the teachings of the Apostles in the NT. Hence the prophecy of Isaiah for our...day... Isaiah 3:12 - As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. Two great ills of the family today ....Children have become spoiled brats and women seek to counsel their head...even more than this...wear the pants in the family. 1 Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is GOD. The order set in Genesis..and also the problems [Curse] given to each Gender. Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Genesis 3:17 - And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Until God changes the ORDER a Woman cannot hold authority over man in society nor in the Church. Miriam was a prophetess and yet she was not given and office of authority in the Church The Man/Husband is responsible before God for the Spiritual teachings of his family. It is He that GOD will first demand an account of it. 1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 1 Corinthians 14:35 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 1 Timothy 2:11 - Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence Woman are allowed to teach each other in certain circumstances and children. As the Lord prophesied...concerning His people...that the leaders would lose their way and lead the people in error .....and Woman shall rule over them and children become the oppressors of their elders. bert10
  23. Weather is not the same from year to year. Each Century has it own problems. Anyway...every one is free to believe what they will. bert10
  24. You guys were warned by our Church leaders that many things in the bible has been changed. In December/January...the Sheep are still in the pen...not in the hills foraging for food which has already been eaten up in the fall. The Shepherds were in the hills in the Spring when they heard the Angels. Joseph Smith received this date by revelation and he was correct. Now, the birth and death of the Lord were on the same day. And the death of the Lord was on the true passover. The rest of the dates do not matter...the Holy Day is the Passover where both the birth and death of Jesus occurred. bert10
  25. Better informed? It just depends how much works and faith one puts in asking, seeking and knocking. These are promises of GOD to us. If you remember, the Lord is no respecter of person...and those who spend their time in asking, seeking and knocking will in time know more than those who do not spend the time. It is the way it works in heaven as well as on the earth. bert10