Traveler Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 There are a number of current studies concerning deep ocean volcanoes at the North Polar Region. More than manmade climate changes this could account more logically for the melting of polar ice. Also – Remember when I highlighted the volcano at the South Pole? The melting of the polar ice in the north will not change the ocean levels but melting the southern polar ice will. Bit by bit all the excitement over global climate change as human cause is coming out to be more politics than science but if you are Chicken Little it is more exciting to to be parodied and blame America and the economy of freedom.The Traveler Quote
utcowboy Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Absolutely, some one has to be to blame and since the world wouldn't do this without human help its got to be Americas fault right?!?! Quote
WANDERER Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 Well, colour me surprised. I wasn't aware that the U.S was the only nation with pollution stats...and a quick peek at Dickensonian England shows that the problem was around long before the U.S gained nationhood. Quote
hethathathears Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Better get rid of my cows Edited April 6, 2010 by hethathathears Quote
Palerider Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 please remember....Al Gore said we have less than 7yrs left and we will burn up......this had nothing to do with tithing....:) Quote
djschroeder Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 This video looks behind the Global Warming caused by man scamgreat global warming swindle - Google Video Quote
MarginOfError Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 The thing that entertains me about the Global Warming controversy is everyone picks a side and assumes that there is a right and a wrong side. I find that in spats like this one, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. In this case I would guess that the earth is experiencing a climate change that is in fact natural, but that the climate change is being pushed to a new extreme because of human behavior. Interpretation: There may not be much we can do to alleviate the effects of global warming, but that doesn't mean we should sit back and do nothing. Throughout this century, environmental responsibility is going to play a big role in how the world shapes out. Quote
NeuroTypical Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 I'm reading a fascinating book about how natural climate changes have altered, and in some cases destroyed, civilizations. They notice, for example, that the history of expansion/weakening/destruction of the Roman empire and the ancient Egyptian kingdoms goes right along with the growing climatic record of things like severe droughts, and shifting ocean and weather patterns. The picture they're painting, is that civilization is basically a gift of warm and wet cycles of changing weather patterns.I'm thinking in the next 50 years, our scientists might start thinking they know enough about what causes these things to start advocating for humans to tamper with our environment in controlled ways. Interesting stuff.Book: The Long SummerLM Quote
Honor Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 My mom shared this article with me today. I love it when someone else is able to put words to my thoughts perfectly. She got it from their local paper, but the columnist is Charles Krauthammer of the Washington post.Thoughts of a global warming agnostic | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Quote
MrNirom Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I'm thinking in the next 50 years, our scientists might start thinking they know enough about what causes these things to start advocating for humans to tamper with our environment in controlled ways.50 years? Does everyone here believe that this earth "as it is" today will be around in 50 years? I wonder what the process is for this telestial earth to become terrestrial? We know that the Earth must be terrestrial for Christ to reign his 1000 years. Edited July 5, 2008 by MrNirom Quote
NeuroTypical Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 50 years? Does everyone here believe that this earth "as it is" today will be around in 50 years?I do. I wonder what the process is for this telestial earth to become terrestrial? We know that the Earth must be terrestrial for Christ to reign his 1000 years.I don't know what the process will be any more than anyone else. But I find no reason to believe golbal warming, manmade or otherwise, has anything to do with the 2nd coming.LM Quote
miztrniceguy Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 i know how to slow global warming! make the vegetarians stop eating all the plants that convert carbon dioxide into oxygen, and instead eat more methane producing cows! i'm doing my fart...er, part! Quote
TheyCallMeMom Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 This video looks behind the Global Warming caused by man scamgreat global warming swindle - Google VideoI really like that videoI wish more people would see itlike maybe in a government school gym class like the "other" global warming videos Quote
Moksha Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Perhaps those young polar bears are drowning just to show their liberal agenda. Quote
TheyCallMeMom Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Perhaps those young polar bears are drowning just to show their liberal agenda.perhaps the polar bear population is actually increasing... and some filmmakers got some good footage Quote
palantir Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Man-made global warming appears to be, like so many politicized "science" issues today, another unscientific theory. Looking at who gains from the promotion of such an unsound idea we find that... * the idea of a threat justifies or excuses more laws to be passed to "protect" us. Governmental power thus increases and reaches further into our lives even to the point of a secular religion. * like other such ideas, it is used to set up a mentality of self-righteousness among less-minded people. It sets those who take such an attitude against those who question it. It causes division and ultimately will cause persecution. This is already beginning to happen. This again plays into the hands of those who would wish to control our lives. We've had enough clues from the fraudulent and baseless teachings of the environmental movement; the fact that a top Green Movement woman turned whistleblower and wrote a book about the real nature of the movement ("communism with a face lift" was how she described it) should alone have been enough to make thinking people wake up and stop being hoodwinked by the same perverse philosophies simply because of a change in name and stated focus. But people never seem to learn from history Quote
sixpacktr Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) Check out this link. And stop drinking the kool aid.Independent IndividualistAnd check out this one so that you can get another POV.JunkScience.com -- Steven Milloy, PublisherThere is nothing wrong with a 4th grade understanding of science....if you are a fourth grader (Climate Change Fraud banner) Edited July 16, 2008 by sixpacktr Quote
Palerider Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Check out this link. And stop drinking the kool aid.Independent IndividualistAnd check out this one so that you can get another POV.JunkScience.com -- Steven Milloy, PublisherThere is nothing wrong with a 4th grade understanding of science....if you are a fourth grader (Climate Change Fraud banner) aaawwww come on.....the kool aid is good...... Quote
WANDERER Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 I'm not a rampant greenie, but I think wise stewardship is commonsense. If it's practical and useful to do things that are going to make the environment in which you live a nice place then why not? I don't think we need to live in a world without technological advances in order to do that...but I'm bothered by the idea of doing whatever you like. Extremist millitant greenies also bother me and I've heard enough about Al Gore for one lifetime...but anti-evironment is just not productive...I'm pro having a nice spot in the world to live. After what's happened to the Murray River in our foodbowl agricultural area I just don't think anti-environment is sound reasoning. Eating is good. Why would anyone have a problem with that? Quote
palantir Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 I agree - the gospel teaches us that we should be tidy, clean, respectful, love God's creations, use them as was intended, and be wise stewards. Most extreme movements and false philosophies and practices use good things like this (as a goal) to justify their methods. But in the methods they seek to accomplish something very different... Being wise stewards requires having a stewardship - it is critical. But bad environmental movements teach that we should have less of a stewardship (property) by either having government take it from us or pass regulations that place it beyond out full control (ownership is meaningless if you cannot control your property). Quote
Moksha Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 The Great Salt Lake is down another foot from last year, perhaps it has a liberal agenda too. Quote
sixpacktr Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 The Great Salt Lake is down another foot from last year, perhaps it has a liberal agenda too. And Lake Bonneville still doesn't have any water over the flats. I wonder how the earth warmed and cooled, oceans rose and fell, all by themselves before evil humans appeared?? Quote
WANDERER Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 What happened with the Murray is that we now have salt plains...the water table is stuffed...land that cannot grow anything and is poisonous and is difficult to reclaim and fix. Drought, industry and a high degree of agriculture. Notice I didn't add global warming to that list...it's just that river...and it's a result of bad practice. Quote
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