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I was with an agency that lowered their standards to meet hiring guidelines set by the city for equality. Lower general test scores, lower physical standards, etc.

For me it is not about fair, it is about safety. I don't have any statistics but know I would rather have a strong 190 lb guy helping me wrestle someone to the ground than a 150 lb woman who is not near as strong.

Most of the work can be done by men and women but some of the more dangerous stuff I just don't know.

Ben Raines

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I knew women in the military that were very capable in the Law Enforcement realm. Some worked with me in the military working dog section (patrol, drug, explosive) and kept up with everyone else in every way.

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While I can understand what Ben is saying I also feel if you are physically able to do the job you should get it..... I have seen many a cop who is not Phisically fit and wonder where the standards are.... I think they should be held to a high physical standard.....

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do you think women are suited for law enforcement?? why or why not?

Every married man knows well the answer to that question.

The Traveler

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I am all for equal pay for equal work. Not for equal pay for lowered standard of work. We had female police officers who I had total confidence in. We also had male officers I did not. It was not a matter of gender it was "Who can I trust to protect my back when it is turned.".

Ben Raines

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I was with an agency that lowered their standards to meet hiring guidelines set by the city for equality. Lower general test scores, lower physical standards, etc.

For me it is not about fair, it is about safety. I don't have any statistics but know I would rather have a strong 190 lb guy helping me wrestle someone to the ground than a 150 lb woman who is not near as strong.

Most of the work can be done by men and women but some of the more dangerous stuff I just don't know.

Ben Raines

As long as the women are built like Rosie O'Donnel then maybe...

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I totally agree Ben a standard should be kept for all...... I don't think lowering the test reqiuirments helped anyone and made the whole de[partment look bad. I think it als looks bad when not all officers are holding themselves to a high standard of physical health, and the ability to be a good example...

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My mother is an investigator, US Marshall and has recently been admitted to an FBI training academy in DC. She will begin her training there this summer.

I think she generally dispells all the stereotypes placed upon women in law enforcement. She has several commendations from the governor of Missouri for her outstanding police and investigative work.

One of those commendations is for taking down a child rapist outside of a 7-11 in St. Louis. They had been looking for him for a VERY long time and finally got a viable lead on him.

My mom is only about 130lbs tops, just a short little blonde thing and she tackled the rapist (who was over 200lbs), brought him to the ground and was able to keep him contained until her partners caught up with her. Her co-workers were stunned, and they still talk about it to this day. She is easily the best cop in the area, and most of her male co-workers will be the first to admit it.

I think what really helps make my mom as good as she is would be the fact that she is held to the exact same standards as the men she works with. There are a lot of situations in which female cops are given less strenuous jobs or allowed lower test scores, but my mom is the only female in her force so she doesn't have that luxury.

Can women make effective police officers? They certainly can, but they shouldn't be treated like dolls. Make them retain the same standard of physicality as the men, and the ones who are truly good enough will make it through.

It's the same thing in the military, i've never understood why women are given the pass when it comes to certain activities. I had a boyfriend in the guard, and I used to run his PT with him every morning so he could stay up to par. After a few months of doing this, I was shocked to find out that the time for female's running was longer and they didn't do as many sit ups and push ups. I had been running the male's standard the entire time and while it was tough, it was do-able with some training. Why cry for equality if you ask for a stepladder once you get it?

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