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Something like that happened recently here in Utah. Only the kid was trying to get out of going to Church.

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From the article: Police arrested the boy and took him to a local hospital for evaluation. He was not hurt.

If that was my kid that 'not hurt' condition would have been a temporary one.

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That would have been worth the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica if I'd had done that!

Note: My dad's idea of punishment - kneel down infront of the altar (hey, I was Catholic!), say 3 decades of the Rosary. If you're badder than most, then you get to put your arms up with Aesop's Fables balanced on one upturned hand and Gulliver's Travels on the other while saying the rosary. If you're very bad, you get Aesop's Fables plus Andersen's Fables on one hand, Gulliver's Travel's and Tom Sawyer on the other.

And like I said, this would have been worth the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica balanced on either hand.

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Strangely enough, I did do something like this when I was young.

About 4 or 5. I couldn't reach the pedals, so my cousin was down there working them while I steered. In those days, there was a starter pedal and pressing on it even with the key off moved the car forward. That's what we were doing.

We each got a spanking but it was also clear that our parents took a certain amount of pride in our figuring out how to do it.

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We are strangely, almost maliciously drawn to stories of near-teens or early teens who get their comeuppance. For awhile, Sally Jesse Rapheal had a plathora of drill-sargeants-turned-child-behavioral-specialists marching through her programs, straightening out hopelessly wayward kids. I doubt that stuff works wholesale, but it allowed adults who'd been bullied to get some sense of vicarious retribution.

All this to say time-outs do work with some kids, most kids seldom need corporal punishment, and many of those parents that so scared you might be locked up in today's world. Have we gone too far the other way? Perhaps. But I really doubt that you can physically beat the Devil out of someone.

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One thing I learned as a parent is that not all children are the same nor do they all respond to various disciplines the same. For example I had one child that spanking only made him more defiant, another that just the threat of a spanking was sufficient. Another so was so embarrassed when spanked by his mother that it was perhaps the most effective punishment but felt “manly” and tuff if spanked by his father.

Likewise various time out methods or other non-physical punishments had various levels of effectiveness. My wife and I also discovered that as children become older that previous methods that use to work wonders become ineffective. Some of our best moments in discipline as parents came as sudden inspiration at the moment. For example the door was removed from a teenager’s bed room for a few weeks.

One of the things we did to get our children to church is to give them the choice of going to church or several hours of chores. They, of course, always chose going to church but using chores for punishment ended up backfiring on our teaching because now our grown children think of chores as punishment and degrading. :(

For the parents that have solved all their discipline situations – I hope you are accomplishing what you think you are accomplishing.

The Traveler

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One thing I learned as a parent is that not all children are the same nor do they all respond to various disciplines the same. For example I had one child that spanking only made him more defiant, another that just the threat of a spanking was sufficient. Another so was so embarrassed when spanked by his mother that it was perhaps the most effective punishment but felt “manly” and tuff if spanked by his father.

Likewise various time out methods or other non-physical punishments had various levels of effectiveness. My wife and I also discovered that as children become older that previous methods that use to work wonders become ineffective. Some of our best moments in discipline as parents came as sudden inspiration at the moment. For example the door was removed from a teenager’s bed room for a few weeks.

One of the things we did to get our children to church is to give them the choice of going to church or several hours of chores. They, of course, always chose going to church but using chores for punishment ended up backfiring on our teaching because now our grown children think of chores as punishment and degrading. :(

For the parents that have solved all their discipline situations – I hope you are accomplishing what you think you are accomplishing.

The Traveler

I have one child who will happily serve time-out - he can stand in the corner and keep his brain occupied, sometimes whistling, sometimes just lost in thought with a silly grin on his face. My other child will beg and plead and cry like the dickens when time-out is issued.

The bad thing about discipline is you only got one chance at it per child. And since each child is different, each child is an experiment without the possibility of a do-over!

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