bert10 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I do not know...show me where Jesus touched money in Scriptures?Here in this verse Jesus sends Peter to do it...and Peter pays the taxman for Jesus and himself.Matthew 17:27 - Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and theeJohn 12:6 - This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.John 13:29 - For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.If one wishes to understand Jesus better, then he had better learn to understand the Essenes and the Nazarenes. The rigourous life style and discipline worked very quickly against the lusts of the flesh and helped the Spiritual side to come forward much easier.Peter later followed in the same paths as Jesus. When a person asked Peter for alms here is his answer....Acts 3:6 -Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.bert10???Did I miss something in my scripture reading??? Quote
Guest Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I do not know...show me where Jesus touched money in Scriptures?Here in this verse Jesus sends Peter to do it...and Peter pays the taxman for Jesus and himself.Matthew 17:27 - Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and theeJohn 12:6 - This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.John 13:29 - For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.If one wishes to understand Jesus better, then he had better learn to understand the Essenes and the Nazarenes. The rigourous life style and discipline worked very quickly against the lusts of the flesh and helped the Spiritual side to come forward much easier.Peter later followed in the same paths as Jesus. When a person asked Peter for alms here is his answer....Acts 3:6 -Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.bert10A perfect example of how 2 people can read the exact same verses of scripture and come away with 2 completely different interpretation... Quote
MarginOfError Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Has nothing to do with being better...but being different.Well bert, you certainly excel at being different. Quote
MarginOfError Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I won't go metric either.If God had meant for man to use the metric system, he would have given him ten fingers and ten toes.oh...wait.... Quote
pam Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 So I'm going to ask a 3rd time since the question is being ignored...this is for bert10 and I'd like him to answer it since he brought it up. What is the Holy Congregation of the Lord? Quote
mightynancy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 And hello, we perform a "cleansing ritual" every time we take the sacrament with a repentant heart. We are made whole through Christ. Quote
Iggy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 So I'm going to ask a 3rd time since the question is being ignored...this is for bert10 and I'd like him to answer it since he brought it up.What is the Holy Congregation of the Lord? Pam you are never going to get a simple answer out of bert- ever. In my Personal Opinion I do not believe he is LDS. For me to believe that he is, I would have to see his baptism/confirmation records and a letter from his Bishop, on church letterhead.In My Personal Opinion I believe he is a TROLL - and from the history of this forum, the majority of the members just love to feed the trolls. bert is THE lesson in futility. It is futile to ask Pam. Futile, Futile, Futile.Okay, now I am through with my rant - I am going to go to my account and put bert on my IGNORE list. My Dr told me I can only take ONE high blood pressure pill A DAY- When I read even 1/3 of one of bert's posts, there goes my blood pressure - To The Moon Alice - nope can't take another pill, put the "troll" on ignore and c a l m down. Quote
slamjet Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 My Dr told me I can only take ONE high blood pressure pill A DAY- When I read even 1/3 of one of bert's posts, there goes my blood pressure - To The Moon Alice - nope can't take another pill, put the "troll" on ignore and c a l m down.God, grant Iggy the serenity,to accept the things he/she (have no idea) cannot change,the courage to change the things he/she (still have no idea) can,and the wisdom to know the difference.Thy will, not his/hers (Someone?) be done.Amen. Quote
slamjet Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 So I'm going to ask a 3rd time since the question is being ignored...this is for bert10 and I'd like him to answer it since he brought it up.What is the Holy Congregation of the Lord?From what I googled, it's sacrament meeting Quote
mordorbund Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 So I'm going to ask a 3rd time since the question is being ignored...this is for bert10 and I'd like him to answer it since he brought it up.What is the Holy Congregation of the Lord?I'm guessing he's referring to the regulations set up for the Israelites under Moses (Deuteronomy 23 kind of stuff). Back when I was younger I used to find this chapter hilarious (now that I re-read it, I still do). It was very specific in the kind of regulations that had to be kept. Besides your nationality (including your inherited nationality) and physical blemishes preventing the congregation from being holy, there were rules for where latrines could be dug ('cuz God doesn't want to step in it).Sources like this could also explain why he seems to have codified 144,000 rules of holy conduct. Quote
pam Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Well thanks..but as I stated, I wanted him to answer it. Quote
hordak Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 So I'm going to ask a 3rd time since the question is being ignored...this is for bert10 and I'd like him to answer it since he brought it up.What is the Holy Congregation of the Lord?Your avatar is not intimidating enough. Let me tryWhat is the Holy Congregation of the Lord? Quote
Guest DeborahC Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Her avatar scares the poop out of me! Every time I look at it I think of my 3d grade teacher who scowled at us for 9 months. Quote
pam Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Her avatar scares the poop out of me! Every time I look at it I think of my 3d grade teacher who scowled at us for 9 months. She had no hair, blue eyebrows and no nose? Well at least I keep you regular. Edited January 17, 2011 by pam Quote
PrinceofLight2000 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I'm still a Pisces, how do you like me now? Quote
pam Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 All I've got to say is, if my personality changed just because of a difference in astrological sign..then there is more a problem with me than all this nonsense. Quote
slamjet Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 All I've got to say is, if my personality changed just because of a difference in astrological sign..then there is more a problem with me than all this nonsense.But I have ink to worry about. It's a HUGE deal to my tattooistic, paganistic side You so don't understand. Quote
slamjet Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 I'm still a Pisces, how do you like me now? I'm not sure... Did I like you before? Quote
Guest Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 All I've got to say is, if my personality changed just because of a difference in astrological sign..then there is more a problem with me than all this nonsense.Pam! You didn't get with the program? Didn't they teach you this in kindergarten? You were supposed to find your sign, see what it says and adjust your personality accordingly. So that, if somebody asks you why you are so stubborn you can say, coz I'm a Taurus! It's all that bull's fault! Quote
slamjet Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 It's all that bull's fault! Wow, the many times have I heard THAT in my lifetime. Quote
Jacobi Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Libra to Virgo? Not sure how I feel about that Quote
slamjet Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 Libra to Virgo? Not sure how I feel about that Maybe my meds are off, but at first read I thought I saw "Leach to Virgin" Quote
MarginOfError Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Maybe my meds are off, but at first read I thought I saw "Leach to Virgin" Wait? So we can restore virginity by making the earth wobble? I can't even begin to describe the implications of this development here. Quote
bert10 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Remember part of repentance is making things right by repairing our relationship whether it is with our neighbors or with GOD.I don't have the answers on how the Tattoos are going to be removed by those who have them. Society will be in dis-arry in those days. I do not know what will be working and not working. However, Once all the stuff is dedicated to the Lord.....nothing unholy (not whole) will be able to enter. Impurity applies to the flesh as well as to the Spiritual. I think the responsibility on how to remove them will be the responsibility of them who had them put on.Jesus said to make the inside of the cup to be as clean as the outside of the cup. The Jews concentrated mostly on the outside of the cup and Jesus came to restore balance.GOD is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and the Standards of purity the Lord required of His Holy Congregation in the OT before they could appear before His Presence will be the same today. Except the Lord will expect us to be holy Spiritually as well. Matthew 7:14 - Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.How few is fewThe few was given to us by Jerimiah....who gave us the words of the Lord and said.....Jer. 3.14- I will take you to ZION one of a city two of a family.The most scary aspect of this...is "Two of a family"....And the Lord here is speaking of His people..which are the LDS who claim to be the people of the Lord with their restored scriptures and Church. It is not Christians who are still called Gentiles...since they are not yet adopted into the Abramic Covenant.bert10So...people who get tattoos, then later learn of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, repent, and are baptized -- without first paying thousands of dollars for a very painful and long procedure requiring several treatments -- can't have a clear conscience? Quote
slamjet Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Posted January 18, 2011 Remember part of repentance is making things right by repairing our relationship whether it is with our neighbors or with GOD.I don't have the answers on how the Tattoos are going to be removed by those who have them. Society will be in dis-arry in those days. I do not know what will be working and not working. However, Once all the stuff is dedicated to the Lord.....nothing unholy (not whole) will be able to enter. Impurity applies to the flesh as well as to the Spiritual. I think the responsibility on how to remove them will be the responsibility of them who had them put on.Jesus said to make the inside of the cup to be as clean as the outside of the cup. The Jews concentrated mostly on the outside of the cup and Jesus came to restore balance.GOD is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and the Standards of purity the Lord required of His Holy Congregation in the OT before they could appear before His Presence will be the same today. Except the Lord will expect us to be holy Spiritually as well. Matthew 7:14 - Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.How few is fewThe few was given to us by Jerimiah....who gave us the words of the Lord and said.....Jer. 3.14- I will take you to ZION one of a city two of a family.The most scary aspect of this...is "Two of a family"....And the Lord here is speaking of His people..which are the LDS who claim to be the people of the Lord with their restored scriptures and Church. It is not Christians who are still called Gentiles...since they are not yet adopted into the Abramic Covenant.bert10Well, I personally dismiss your whole, confused premise. What you are describing is a God that is the same yesterday, today, and forever AND unbending, unyielding and unmerciful. I cannot accept that God will dismiss anyone who has desecrated their body in some form while in the throws of rebellion and temptation and not receive forgiveness and acceptance when they submit to repentance and the Light of Christ. You are speaking dismissively of the Atonement if you subscribe to this unbending, unforgiving logic. I am working very hard to come back into the Church. The Lord has blessed me GREATLY because I'm learning obedience and to turn my will over to him. All while I have this tattoo on my shoulder.While this line of reasoning may make you feel good and intellectual, it borderlines on fanaticism. The same fanaticism that I've had to fight every time I tried to return to the fold. Because I was a bad person and made bad decisions, I was, and to a point am still, ostracized by those whom are judging me unacceptable to enter into God's Kingdom. Thankfully, there are many, many more whom accept and respect me for having the strength to look up and seek forgiveness and counsel.And by the way, Gentiles in the Book of Mormon is referring to us, a Christian nation. Go figure. Quote
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