Vort Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles Congratulate President on Election WinSALT LAKE CITY ā The First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued the following statement today: We congratulate President Obama on winning a second term as President of the United States.After a long campaign, this is now a time for Americans to come together. It is a long tradition among Latter-day Saints to pray for our national leaders in our personal prayers and in our congregations. We invite Americans everywhere, whatever their political persuasion, to pray for the President, for his administration and the new Congress as they lead us through difficult and turbulent times. May our national leaders reflect the best in wisdom and judgment as they fulfill the great trust afforded to them by the American people.We also commend Governor Romney for engaging at the highest level of our democratic process which, by its nature, demands so much of those who offer themselves for public service. We wish him and his family every success in their future endeavors. Quote
annewandering Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Here is the complete statement from the First Presidency and the 12 Apostles. First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles Congratulate President on Election Win Quote
Dravin Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 What a refreshing statement in face of all the, "We are doomed!" comments floating around, and would have floated around regardless of who won. Quote
Backroads Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 While I know there is quite the variety of feelings on the election, I for one am at peace in general and this statement only increases that feeling. (I think I'm just glad it's all over.) Quote
mikbone Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 What a refreshing statement in face of all the, "We are doomed!" comments floating around, and would have floated around regardless of who won.The Gospel is eternal.Obama can only do a finite amount of damage in his remaining term. Quote
skippy740 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Probably as finite as the number of sins we commit... Quote
LittleWyvern Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 What a refreshing statement in face of all the, "We are doomed!" comments floating around, and would have floated around regardless of who won.Yeah, this will totally stop all the wall posts from my LDS facebook friends that say capitalism is dead, America will be destroyed, we're all communists/socialists, the economy will completely collapse, etc., etc., right?*checks facebook*Well, a man can dream, can't he? Quote
annewandering Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Yeah, this will totally stop all the wall posts from my LDS facebook friends that say capitalism is dead, America will be destroyed, we're all communists/socialists, the economy will completely collapse, etc., etc., right?*checks facebook*Well, a man can dream, can't he? We could always hope. I wonder what they will say in four years when we are still here? I am sure they wont concede anything. Quote
Backroads Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 I'm going to say the post political thing I've said [online] in quite some time. I identify as a conservative. Obama was NOT my pick (I actually voted for Goode) and I disagree with many of his philosophies and policies. I realize that many other conservatives see Obama as the anti-Christ or whatever, that his re-election is a sign of the times, and we're going to hell in a handbasket. I have no knowledge of Obama's anti-Christ nature and all these other conservatives could very well be right, I have no way of knowing either way. But... if you asked my opinion on the matter without expecting me to supply evidence... I don't think Obama is the anti-Christ, I don't think he's a horseman of the Apocalypse, I know plenty of good active Mormons who support Obama, and I think in four years... we will all be more or less alive and functioning as a country. No, this doesn't mean I like or really support Obama, but I really am not comfortable with this strange tendency to combine his presidency with religious and spiritual matters of doom. Quote
annewandering Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 I'm going to say the post political thing I've said [online] in quite some time.I identify as a conservative. Obama was NOT my pick (I actually voted for Goode) and I disagree with many of his philosophies and policies. I realize that many other conservatives see Obama as the anti-Christ or whatever, that his re-election is a sign of the times, and we're going to hell in a handbasket. I have no knowledge of Obama's anti-Christ nature and all these other conservatives could very well be right, I have no way of knowing either way. But... if you asked my opinion on the matter without expecting me to supply evidence... I don't think Obama is the anti-Christ, I don't think he's a horseman of the Apocalypse, I know plenty of good active Mormons who support Obama, and I think in four years... we will all be more or less alive and functioning as a country. No, this doesn't mean I like or really support Obama, but I really am not comfortable with this strange tendency to combine his presidency with religious and spiritual matters of doom.It seems very strange to me as well. I actually heard some saying Romney would have time to be an apostle now. I just dont get it at all. Well except that Obama is a very crismatic speaker. lol No doubt but that is definitive. Scary in fact. Quote
skippy740 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Members don't aspire to callings - particularly as general authorities. However, he would have time to contribute to charitable causes? Quote
SMiller Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 For me, I was extremely surprised at many of the issues that were passed nationwide. Presidential candidates aside, look at how many states legalized marijuana and same-sex marriage by popular vote. No matter what party you are for, those results are a little scary. Helaman 5:2 For as their laws and their governments were established by the voice of the people, and they who chose evil were more numerous than they who chose good, therefore they were ripening for destruction, for the laws had become corrupted. Quote
annewandering Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Members don't aspire to callings - particularly as general authorities.However, he would have time to contribute to charitable causes?True but it wasnt him saying it. It was other people. It just seemed very weird because it is so far from how we do things, yet was said by an LDS person. People look like they are settling down today. Or I havent been on facebook a lot today. Quote
Scooby-1 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Hi all...newbie here... I have to admit I was very upset at the outcome of the election. I am somewhat calmer today but Tuesday night I didn't sleep at all. While I believe that Mitt Romney was one of the best candidates in a long, long time, I was so hoping to have the priesthood in the White House and was extremely disappointed that it will not be. Quote
skippy740 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 People look like they are settling down today. Or I havent been on facebook a lot today. I've been so tired of dealing with ignorant people who post anything about our faith as though everything they read online is true. It's trollish behavior that I see in some of my facebook groups. (They're Black LDS groups that allow practically anyone to join and are not moderated much at all.)I've spent so much time defending the Church so people can understand us in its proper light and hopefully judge their voting on the PERSON, versus against a faith.The good news, is that our faith didn't become much of a hinderance in the election. The "Mormon Moment" will continue in a slower pace.I'm tired of getting into various debates & conversations of politics & religion. I'm usually a pretty good "peacemaker" and I do try to see other's points of view and compare it to my own value system. On some points, we agree to disagree agreeably. On others, we can both see each other's points of view. On that part, it was nice.But I'm not going to be 'crusading' for anything for a while. This crusader is tired... and the majority has spoken (for now). Quote
annewandering Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Skippy, I can sympathize with that. I spend a lot of time correcting misinformation as well. I may not be the best representative of the church but it is a worthwhile thing to do. Many of my friends online are liberal so I am probably one of the few actual LDS people they ever talk to. It is amazing some of the really wrong ideas out there that need to be corrected. Like LDS women being down trodden and muzzled. lol. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 There is a prayer I have been praying for many years now. It goes something like this:I pray for President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary of State Clinton, and Attorney General Holder...that you will grant them the wisdom of Solomon and Joseph, that You will spare this land for the sake of the righteous*, and use Caesar to prosper and protect your church, and your church to prosper and protect this land. ... In Jesus' name, amen.* Reference to Sodom and Gomorroh, both of which would have been spared had there been but 10 righteous souls. Quote
carlimac Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 I'm OK with praying for the president (that he'll have wisdom and all that) but can't bring myself to congratulate him. Not when his was such a mean spirited campaign that denigrated and distorted the real Mitt Romney. No I don't know Romney personally but have heard enough anecdotes of his goodness and selflessness- that coupled with what I know is required of stake presidents that I trust he was a good, honest individual. Slightly more than half of this country sold it's soul for a mess of pottage. That doesn't mean it's all Obama's fault. I feel like a huge number of folks chose a leader who would give them what they want instead of the tough love they need. We're in an era of selfishness and entitlement. And I really don't understand how the more intelligent and less needy can't understand that continually giving them what they want in the form of govt. assistance is only enabling their dependent behavior. There are legitimate needs- disabled, mentally unable to earn a living, vets, elderly etc. But there are too many who are abusing the system, partly because they've never had someone tell them NO you don't qualify for welfare anymore. I also have heard from numerous people that the food stamps they get are more than they need. One lady feeds her extra bread to the ducks on the river banks. There desprately needs to be some evaluation, reform and oversight on this waste. OK, I'm done for now. Quote
skippy740 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 One lady feeds her extra bread to the ducks on the river banks. There desprately needs to be some evaluation, reform and oversight on this waste. OK, I'm done for now. Reminds me of Mary Poppins:Michael: I want it to feed the birds. Mr. Dawes Sr.: Fiddlesticks, boy! Feed the birds and what have you got? Fat birds! But... [sings] Mr. Dawes Sr.: If you invest your tuppence wisely in the bank, safe and sound, soon that tuppence, safely invested in the bank, will compound! And you'll achieve that sense of conquest, as your affluence expands! In the hands of the directors, who invest as propriety demands! Quote
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