Are millenials getting it right?

[jerome1232]

Weren't violins the "devils" music at one point in time?

I think generations just like to knock their successors a notch or two down to make themselves feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Edited December 18, 2014 by jerome1232

[Bini]

Weren't violins the "devils" music at one point in time?

I think generations just like to knock their successors a notch or two down to make themselves feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I don't know about devil's music but my mum always said that violins sound like cat torture. I always enjoy a good violinist but I suppose someone not skilled, it certainly makes a difference.

[The Folk Prophet]

Vort's point is valid. But there is also, without question, a concrete level of uplifting/downpressing in music -- and particularly when you add in lyrics. There are songs that, culture aside, are going to drive the spirit out, inspire immorality, and generally work to build the devil up.

 

It's not all about association.

Edited December 18, 2014 by The Folk Prophet

[Traveler]

I like the little motto of BYU TV -- "See the good in the world".  Sometimes the good is like a single flower in a baron wilderness.  But the point is - if you cannot or will not see the good in the world you will forever be miserable.   I have tried the miserable thing and though it is habit forming and gets a lot of attention - because misery loves company.  It is just not for me.  And the one thing I have learned - the harder it is to find the good in the world the funner it is and the greater the joy is in finding it.

[Vort]

Vort's point is valid. But there is also, without question, a concrete level of uplifting/downpressing in music -- and particularly when you add in lyrics. There are songs that, culture aside, are going to drive the spirit out, inspire immorality, and generally work to build the devil up.

 

It's not all about association.

Too true. My least favorite Mozart opera, Così fan tutte, is widely considered to be one of the best, if not the best, opera ever written. But it's all about the hilarity of two young men convinced their finacees are models of fidelity, and one old guy disabusing them of such silly naivete by having each seduce the other's girlfriend. Har de har! What a riot!

 

Everyone knows the powerful Rigoletto aria La donna è mobile. But many don't realize that it's sung by a despicable cad, the Duke of Mantua, who uses women like toilet paper. He is singing about how changeable and fickle women are -- this, while a sweet but foolish young woman dies in his place because she is in love with him, and her father (the duke's servant) is left to grieve for her.

 

Maybe that is not a good example of what you're talking about, but it is certainly an example of how many songs promote ideas that we are not even consciously aware of. I don't know how many times I've heard an old song from my childhood or young adulthood, perhaps even a song I really liked, and been struck by how openly vulgar that song was. Sometimes I am shocked at how I didn't understand the song's real meaning. Other times, I'm shocked that I did understand it, yet still listened to it anyway. I am not naive enough to think that incorporating those lyrics into my mind had no effect on my spirit or outlook.

 

With the amount of filth we take in from the world, it is literally a miracle that we can repent and be cleansed. We would most surely and hopelessly be lost without the atonement.

[Crypto]

There was at least one study done on the associations people of different ages prescribe to [a?] various type of music. One of the interesting findings is that often times the older generation interpret what is being said lyrical wise as being vastly different (completely opposite in some cases) than what the younger generation will interpret it as.

 

The values of the older generation and younger generation actually aligned for the most part, but the generational lingo and world view caused communication misinterpretation.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Crypto

[Crypto]

 Green jello and funeral potatoes at ward functions.

Something must be amiss in my ward...I don't think i've ever actually had Green Jello Or Funeral potatoes at a ward function 

[askandanswer]

This discussion puzzles me. I thought it would have been obvious to even casual observers, that as time passes, the divide between good and evil has become, and will continue to become, more and more obvious. There will be those who lean more and more towards the good and true, and those who will lean more and more away from the good and true. This unavoidable, inevitable division is what will guide and shape each succeeding generation of youth. The good will become more good and the bad will become more bad. I expect this trend will be clearly noticeable with every succeeding generation. If this argument holds true for the future, then it is likely that it also holds true for the past. If that is the case, then we could safely say that every generation has been both better and worse than the previous generation. 

[Traveler]

I believe the big question is not so much if we can recognize evil and its influence - but if we can recognize good and its influence in the world.

 

A side note about music - I am so grateful for the music of the Christmas season.

[Crypto]

I don't think i've ever ...had  Funeral potatoes ...  

FYI I was just introduced to this lol Good timing