PolarVortex Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 "All those layers"? Gimme a break. It's ONE thin layer more. I have co-workers who wear more layers than I do....bra, camisole, shirt, blazer/cardigan....... Well, I tried to paraphrase it politely. The article used the phrase "navigate though multiple layers of clothing." I'm fond of neatly packed precise wording, but somehow I would never think to describe the act of probing into layers of clothing as "navigation." Suum cuique. carlimac 1 Quote
Maureen Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 PolarVortex, how would you compare this article about the garment survey with the SLT link in the OP? http://lds.net/blog/buzz/lds-news/lds-church-calls-member-input-temple-garments/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=LDS.net&utm_content=LDS%20Church%20Calls%20For%20Member%20Input%20on%20Temple%20Garments M. Quote
Palerider Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Remember ....they are sacred PolarVortex 1 Quote
PolarVortex Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) PolarVortex, how would you compare this article about the garment survey with the SLT link in the OP? M. Please call me Polar. The "LDS News" link you provided appears to be similar to the Peggy Fletcher Stack piece in the SLT, and some of the quotes from Ms. Riess appear to be identical. As pam mentioned already, the garment is supposed to be a sacred thing, and referring to it as the "Itchy and Scratchy Show" is not how I would show respect. So of course I would gently fault the LDS News article on this point. However, the author of the LDS News article (her name is given as Morgan Hampton) omitted another Riess quote that did appear in the SLT: "It delights me that there is no concept of something being irredeemably profane in my religion. ... Even underwear can be sanctified." I would expect this from the mouth of Bill Maher, or the "Book of Mormon" Broadway musical, or even the writings of some serious blogger, but not from a newspaper story. Of all the quotations available on this topic, and there must be tons, the "sanctification of underwear" was deemed the most newsworthy? In a short article? Please. The SLT is trying to titillate its readers to keep them reading and not jumping ship. But that's just my opinion. If you disagree, I think that's terrific. How else can we have fun here? And may I ask why this topic interests you at all if you are a Protestant? (I'm not being snide, I'm genuinely interested in your answer.) cheers, Polar Edited January 31, 2015 by PolarVortex Quote
Maureen Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) It's not the specific article, it's the accusation that the SLT has a negative agenda toward the LDS church that I'm usually surprised about. I just don't see, I've read several of their articles about the LDS church and I don't see a negative agenda at all. ETA: And may I ask why this topic interests you at all if you are a Protestant? (I'm not being snide, I'm genuinely interested in your answer.) My answer to this question is, and I'm not saying this to be rude, that even as a Protestant, I have several interests in a variety of subjects. M. Edited February 2, 2015 by Maureen Quote
Palerider Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I have always felt the Salt a Lake trib tends to be more negative towards the LDS church. I do see it in some of their articles. Quote
pam Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I have always felt the Salt a Lake trib tends to be more negative towards the LDS church. I do see it in some of their articles. Which is one reason they are nicknamed the Salt Lake Tribulation Quote
Guest Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) So how do missionaries in hot climates deal with an extra layer of clothing? Do missionaries in Florida or East Texas ride bikes and just resign themselves to being drenched in sweat all day? I can't imagine that would be very appealing to investigators.When I visited LDS Humanitarian Services last year I met an LDS couple that had spent 2 years in West Africa (Ghana, I think). She said they didn't have the problem of old clothing accumulating in their closets, because all clothing would mildew and rot away within nine months. I asked her what it was like wearing the garment in that climate, and she said "You get used to it." Behind her, and outside her field of vision, the husband gave her a "Lady, you are $#%^@ crazy!" look.You get used to it is the correct answer. Growing up in the Philippines and then moving to snowbelt Ohio, I got bat crazy. My aunt always tells me... Cold is better than hot because you can always put more layers on, but you can't go naked. I always look at her funny because... Putting thermals over your undies before putting on your jeans makes me feel so constricted, I can't move. South Florida is almost like the Philippines. I grew up wearing camisoles under my clothing - mama's rules. The camisole absorbs the sweat so your outer clothes don't get sweat marks. Cornstarch baby powder is also a must wear. So switching to garments was not a change in layers but a change in the extra covered spots (from the thin shoulder straps of the camisole to the capped shoulders, and panty to boxer briefs kinda thing).My kids wear A-shirts and boxers since they were little. That's on purpose. In addition to preserving their outer clothing from sweat marks (in winter, they can wear the same shirt for 2 days) it's also a way to get them used to the feel of garments. Edited January 31, 2015 by anatess Quote
Backroads Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Where did the SLTribune describe the survey like that? I've read the link posted in the OP and I'm not reading any such thing. M.In my experience, SLT excels at the tiniest of digs. carlimac and Vort 2 Quote
Backroads Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 I'm surprised over the drama of these articles. I always thought input was routine. Leah, mordorbund and Vort 3 Quote
Vort Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 In my experience, SLT excels at the tiniest of digs. If only they were content with the tiniest of digs... Backroads 1 Quote
carlimac Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 If only they were content with the tiniest of digs The comments section on church articles in the trib are always so vitriolic and mean spirited that I've abandoned them altogether. Even the DN comments are sarcastic but there is a better balance of those supporting the church and those criticizing it. Quote
Backroads Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 The comments section on church articles in the trib are always so vitriolic and mean spirited that I've abandoned them altogether. Even the DN comments are sarcastic but there is a better balance of those supporting the church and those criticizing it.I generally avoid comments. Comment sections attract squalor. Quote
NightSG Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 So how do missionaries in hot climates deal with an extra layer of clothing? Do missionaries in Florida or East Texas ride bikes and just resign themselves to being drenched in sweat all day? I can't imagine that would be very appealing to investigators. Ours mostly drive. OTOH, I'm sure that's not an option in plenty of places that have a similar climate, and when dealing with the constant sweat on a bicycle, I'd be more worried about saddle sores than the smell. Quote
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