StarfleetDad Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 I am a convert and havea question.I have been a member for five years. Not long after being baptized, I met a lady in church and we were married but not sealed (I was not eligible for temple as it was less then a year before baptism).Since that time we have had good times and bad (nothing horrendous-just life). We had both been previously married so we knew divorce. Every time being sealed came up, one or the other felt nervous.We are at a point now where we are very likely going to go our seperate ways. She has stated in the past that she would simply be sealed to me after my departure from this mortal coil.I know that I will have the option of refusing to be sealed beyond the veil but I don't even want this to be an option for her. If we can't resolve our differences here, nothing will change later.Is there someone I can contact in the church, or a form to be filed to "block" a sealing from a particular person after I am gone? Quote
cdowis Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 The short answer is "No",The long answer is.... maybe but it would be very complicated. At best, after you died, someone would have go convince Familysearch to do a block on your name against any additional work being done. You are obviously having some serious marital issues, and I hope you can work them out. But the only real answer is what you already know -- she can't force you to have a valid sealing even if she has the work done. Just forget about it, don't worry about it, and get on with your life. I wish you all the best. Jane_Doe and Vort 2 Quote
Backroads Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 If you divorce before you die, does she really have any ability to be sealed to you? Jane_Doe and EarlJibbs 2 Quote
Maureen Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 If you divorce before you die, does she really have any ability to be sealed to you? Yes I do believe that divorced couples can be proxy sealed, just because they were once married. M. Backroads 1 Quote
pam Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 Yes I do believe that divorced couples can be proxy sealed, just because they were once married. M. If that is true, the question I would have is; Should they be? Quote
estradling75 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 I know that I will have the option of refusing to be sealed beyond the veil but I don't even want this to be an option for her. If we can't resolve our differences here, nothing will change later. This seems kind of spiteful to me... You know if you divorce what she may or may not do will not make a difference... But you want to go out of your way to stop her anyways Quote
cdowis Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 I know of no prohibition against sealing a divorced couple. Indeed, if a living couple has been sealed, the sealing is still in effect after a divorce, unless they get a "temple divorce". Those must be approved by the First Presy. Backroads 1 Quote
pam Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 I know of no prohibition against sealing a divorced couple. Indeed, if a living couple has been sealed, the sealing is still in effect after a divorce, unless they get a "temple divorce". Those must be approved by the First Presy. I understand those that were sealed before divorce. I just don't know if I agree that a divorced couple who were never sealed should be sealed after death. That's just my opinion now. I would hate for anyone to seal me to my ex husband after we are both gone. There was a reason I divorced him. Backroads 1 Quote
cdowis Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) That decision is left to the discretion of the individual submitter. You might not do it, but somebody can come after you and have it done (assuming the 110 year rule, etc) For me, if the couple had children, I would definitely do it, and have the entire family sealed. Edited October 20, 2015 by cdowis Quote
StarfleetDad Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Posted October 20, 2015 I really appreciate all the feedback to my question, even the one about my "being spiteful."I can see that I look spiteful on the one hand. On the other, she is attractive and could easily find a better man to be sealed to... if that was her only option. If she holds to dilusions that we will be better after death, what happens when it is refused beyond the veil?(I love her and she loves me. That is not in question. It is the day to day living that is eroding our compassion for each other. We make better friends then spouses. I just don't want to hold her back in either this life or the next)What happens to her grown son and my grown children if they are proxy sealed to a refused proxy marital seal later?I look forward to performing the sealing ordinance for my grandparents. They were made for each other. My parents, however, were divorced. I know that they will never accept it so I will not perform it... and from what I gather, that means I cannot be sealed to them either(what about my step mom who is awesome?).Dont get me wrong. Proxy work for my departed family was a huge selling point for my interest in this church (while my old pastor had a fit about what he called, "collecting dead bodies" work), but some of these ordinances seem daunting to a relatively new convert.How does one ask tough questions without looking like they are challenging church doctrine? Quote
Maureen Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 That decision is left to the discretion of the individual submitter. You might not do it, but somebody can come after you and have it done (assuming the 110 year rule, etc) For me, if the couple had children, I would definitely do it, and have the entire family sealed. A divorce or cancelled sealing does not effect the children. They will always be sealed to their parents. https://www.lds.org/new-era/2015/08/to-the-point/if-my-parents-were-sealed-in-the-temple-and-then-got-divorced-which-one-am-i-sealed-to?lang=eng M. Quote
Backroads Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 A divorce or cancelled sealing does not effect the children. They will always be sealed to their parents.https://www.lds.org/new-era/2015/08/to-the-point/if-my-parents-were-sealed-in-the-temple-and-then-got-divorced-which-one-am-i-sealed-to?lang=engM.But if the family were never sealed to begin with and a divorce occurred, the children still aren't sealed to their parents. Quote
Maureen Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 But if the family were never sealed to begin with and a divorce occurred, the children still aren't sealed to their parents. Yes that's true. Then it somewhat makes sense why some would proxy seal a divorced couple. M. Quote
classylady Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Often times, after the death of both parents, children of divorced parents will seal their parents together so they (the children) can be sealed to their parents in order to have the blessings of the sealing covenant in their lives. It's also done in Family History for the same reason--in order for the children to be sealed to their parents. This is sort of answered in the last paragraph of this Ask Gramps question. http://askgramps.org/4297/can-a-member-have-their-non-member-family-sealed-to-them Edited October 20, 2015 by classylady Backroads 1 Quote
Guest LiterateParakeet Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 Yes I do believe that divorced couples can be proxy sealed, just because they were once married.M.This is what I was told also when my mother died. That I should seal her to her ex-husband who is also dead. In their case, I think they won't mind. To the best of my knowledge they were divorced due to the effects of alcoholism. If that had not been a factor, I think their marriage would have had a chance.So I'll do that. I hope they don't mind. But they can reject it if they wish. Quote
Blackmarch Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 I am a convert and havea question.I have been a member for five years. Not long after being baptized, I met a lady in church and we were married but not sealed (I was not eligible for temple as it was less then a year before baptism).Since that time we have had good times and bad (nothing horrendous-just life). We had both been previously married so we knew divorce. Every time being sealed came up, one or the other felt nervous.We are at a point now where we are very likely going to go our seperate ways.She has stated in the past that she would simply be sealed to me after my departure from this mortal coil.I know that I will have the option of refusing to be sealed beyond the veil but I don't even want this to be an option for her. If we can't resolve our differences here, nothing will change later.Is there someone I can contact in the church, or a form to be filed to "block" a sealing from a particular person after I am gone?If you can't resolve your differances later, you're not going to be forced to be together... it goes both ways. Quote
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