askandanswer Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 In His mortal life, God must have been a: Teacher, because the whole plan of salvation is about teaching His children or a Lawyer, because He gives us the law and lives by the law or a Farmer, because sew many of His parables use agricultural symbology or a Construction engineer, because He constructed such a beautiful world or a Carpenter, because that is the trade the Son learned from His father. Feel free to add to the list…………….. Quote
Blackmarch Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 2 hours ago, askandanswer said: In His mortal life, God must have been a: Teacher, because the whole plan of salvation is about teaching His children or a Lawyer, because He gives us the law and lives by the law or a Farmer, because sew many of His parables use agricultural symbology or a Construction engineer, because He constructed such a beautiful world or a Carpenter, because that is the trade the Son learned from His father. Feel free to add to the list…………….. The only thing i could guess would be a christ. But we are not given this explicitly. Quote
Guest Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Blackmarch said: The only thing i could guess would be a christ. But we are not given this explicitly. Maybe not explicitly, but by the transitive property, yes. Jesus said that He only does what He has seen His Father do. Quote
Maureen Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Carborendum said: Maybe not explicitly, but by the transitive property, yes. Jesus said that He only does what He has seen His Father do. I've always been curious about this idea. If God the Father was once a man, and as a man, possibly his world's Messiah - how would our Christ (Jesus) who was once an intelligence before he became the first spirit child of his/our heavenly Father have seen his/our heavenly Father do actions while his/our heavenly Father was in his mortal/temporal stage? M. Quote
askandanswer Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Posted September 10, 2016 Maureen 28 minutes ago, Maureen said: I've always been curious about this idea. If God the Father was once a man, and as a man, possibly his world's Messiah - how would our Christ (Jesus) who was once an intelligence before he became the first spirit child of his/our heavenly Father have seen his/our heavenly Father do actions while his/our heavenly Father was in his mortal/temporal stage? M. Maureen you've raised an interesting question. In response, I offer a completely uninformed view based on speculation. Astronomers see events all the time that happened millions of years before they were born because it has taken millions of years from the light of the events they see to reach their eyes. We see something when the light of that event reaches our eyes, not when that event happened. You've also made me think of something I hadn't thought of before. Some interpreters of LDS theology claim that Christ's atonement covered all peoples, times, places and worlds that were, are and will be. This might or might not be true. But if it is true, such an atonement would completely obviate the need for any other atonement, including any possible atonement that might have previously been made by God in some other life. Or if God had previously made some sort of atonement, it must have been limited in scope, and in that sense, lesser than the atonement later made by His Son. So either: the atonement made by Christ does not cover all time and all places, or God the Father did not make an atonement, or God the Father's atonement, if there was one, was lesser than the atonement made by His Son, and therefore another atonement was needed or Some people, times, and places are covered by more than one atonement. I'm not sure which of the above possibilities are true or false, but they can't all be true. Quote
Maureen Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Maureen you've raised an interesting question. In response, I offer a completely uninformed view based on speculation. Astronomers see events all the time that happened millions of years before they were born because it has taken millions of years from the light of the events they see to reach their eyes. We see something when the light of that event reaches our eyes, not when that event happened.... You think that Jesus had some ability (like Astronomers) to see things that happened before he was a spirit child of heavenly parents? M. Quote
askandanswer Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Posted September 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Maureen said: You think that Jesus had some ability (like Astronomers) to see things that happened before he was a spirit child of heavenly parents? M. I'm just suggesting that if we ignore the idea that nothing travels faster than light, (and there is reason to consider that God and other heavenly beings have found a way around that idea) then yes, its possible to see something that happened a long time ago. When you see something depends on where you are in relation to the observed event. And lets not overlook the possibility that Christ saw God's atonement, if there was such an atonement, on the heavenly equivalent of a DVD rather than as a live event. I'm not suggesting that either possibility is likely or unlikely, just possible. Quote
Jane_Doe Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 ** Jane holds up a big "BE AWARE OF WHEN YOU ARE SPECULATING, VERSUS WHAT IS REVEALED" sign*** askandanswer 1 Quote
askandanswer Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Posted September 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jane_Doe said: ** Jane holds up a big "BE AWARE OF WHEN YOU ARE SPECULATING, VERSUS WHAT IS REVEALED" sign*** Thank you Jane. Your sign is noted and your reminder is appreciated,. I think new ideas and understanding can and sometimes should be generated by speculation, but such ideas and understandings are definitely not of the same quality or reliability as knowledge gained through revelation. It should always be remembered that the insights and understandings generated through speculation should be considered as ideas, and not as truth. although sometimes those ideas might be true and that the truth will always have a value higher than an idea. Jane_Doe 1 Quote
zil Posted September 10, 2016 Report Posted September 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Maureen said: I've always been curious about this idea. If God the Father was once a man, and as a man, possibly his world's Messiah - how would our Christ (Jesus) who was once an intelligence before he became the first spirit child of his/our heavenly Father have seen his/our heavenly Father do actions while his/our heavenly Father was in his mortal/temporal stage? M. **zil moves up next to @Jane_Doe's sign and says anyway:* I have no reason to think that intelligences are incapable of moving, observing, and learning (in real time). (I also have no reason to think they are capable of such things beyond a bit of logic and a dread of infinite boredom.) Quote
Jamie123 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Don't ask me why, but but I have an idea He may have been a postman. Like my cousin Richard. Blackmarch 1 Quote
NightSG Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 Pretty sure He was either in marketing or politics; who else could get the Jews to believe that a prohibition on bacon was actually reasonable for the chosen people of a merciful deity? askandanswer and Blackmarch 2 Quote
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