StrawberryFields Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 I just learned the my cousin was found dead in her apartment on Monday. She has had a very difficult life and you could see that as soon as you would meet her. She is just a year older than I am but she has a face that can tell you a thousand tells. The cousin I am the closest with called me last night to let me know what happened and a bit about the funeral arrangements. She told me that my cousin had not planned for a burial plot but the family would like her layed to rest by family. They checked with the Berg cemetary and there is nothing available right by family. They however have a few babies who are buried there and who are brothers to the deceased. They suggested that my cousin might be placed right there by her parents, her brothers, and touching my grandparents plots. The problem is that if the family decided on that location she would not be placed with her body going from east to went, she would be laying from north to south. What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is placed in the ground the wrong way.
pam Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 I just learned the my cousin was found dead in her apartment on Monday. She has had a very difficult life and you could see that as soon as you would meet her. She is just a year older than I am but she has a face that can tell you a thousand tells. The cousin I am the closest with called me last night to let me know what happened and a bit about the funeral arrangements. She told me that my cousin had not planned for a burial plot but the family would like her layed to rest by family. They checked with the Berg cemetary and there is nothing available right by family. They however have a few babies who are buried there and who are brothers to the deceased. They suggested that my cousin might be placed right there by her parents, her brothers, and touching my grandparents plots. The problem is that if the family decided on that location she would not be placed with her body going from east to went, she would be laying from north to south.What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is played in the ground the wrong way.I guess I'm going to show my ignorance ONCE again...but I wasn't aware of anything concerning the direction you are buried. Will be interesting to learn something here.
a-train Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 She will stand and turn 90 degrees to meet her LORD with her family. -a-train
Dr T Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Don't feel bad Pammy. I didn't know why it mattered either. edit for didn't vs. did
Canuck Mormon Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Pam wasn't the only one. This is the first I've heard of it.
pam Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Pam wasn't the only one. This is the first I've heard of it. Whewwww thank you CM. Now I don't feel so bad.
shanstress70 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 What's with this eat/west thing, SF? Apparently none of us have heard of it. I'm sorry about the loss of your cousin.
StrawberryFields Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Posted October 3, 2007 Well far be it from me to claim all doctrine matters but I have been under the understanding that when Christ comes again HE will be in the east. Those wanting to greet him will want to rise straight up to meet HIM. :)
pam Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Well far be it from me to claim all doctrine matters but I have been under the understanding that when Christ comes again HE will be in the east. Those wanting to greet him will want to rise straight up to meet HIM. :)Something more I will need to research. But then..I think about the cemeteries in the SLC valley that I have been to....all of them do face east to west. Interesting. I've just never thought of it.
Gaia Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is played in the ground the wrong way.GAIA:So sorry to hear of your loss.I can't imagine it really mattering all that much. People who are cremated, or people from other religious / spiritual traditions who have very different practices related to death, will certainly not be punished or slighted by God -- and will be resurrected just the same. I just don't think it matters.
shanstress70 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Gosh, so those who were killed in an airplane crash or other tragedy whose bodies have never been found are really outta luck... huh? Poor guys. Maybe I'm feeling extremely cynical today, but I'm reading several things here that seem absolutely ridiculous!
StrawberryFields Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Posted October 3, 2007 Gosh, so those who were killed in an airplane crash or other tragedy whose bodies have never been found are really outta luck... huh? Poor guys. Maybe I'm feeling extremely cynical today, but I'm reading several things here that seem absolutely ridiculous!Hey I am grieving here and have a genuine question
shanstress70 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 <div class='quotemain'>Gosh, so those who were killed in an airplane crash or other tragedy whose bodies have never been found are really outta luck... huh? Poor guys. Maybe I'm feeling extremely cynical today, but I'm reading several things here that seem absolutely ridiculous!Hey I am grieving here and have a genuine question Sorry, my serious answer would be that it doesn't matter one iota what direction someone is buried, or even IF they're buried. God doesn't care about such details. Once again, I'm sorry for your loss.
Old Tex Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 The problem is that if the family decided on that location she would not be placed with her body going from east to went, she would be laying from north to south.What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is placed in the ground the wrong way. Strawberry,There is no right or wrong direction for one to be buried. I don't know when or where that got started, but I've heard it all my life, mainly because all of my mother's family back to 1840 are buried in a family cemetery in Southeast Texas. My mother died at 93 years of age about 5 years ago. I had her buried between her parents and her brother. The foot of all the graves are nearest to the East with the head toward the West.The thought behind this is that all "religious" folks back then expected to be raised in the First Resurrection, and since the bible implied that Christ would appear in the East, they wanted to be "facing" East in anticipation of their resurrection. I'm sure that such a thought brought comfort to many of them.More practical thinking (and the lack of family cemeteries) does not always afford one that choice any more, but it really made no difference except in the mind of one who preferred it. My sister, who died two weeks ago, preferred cremation. More are choosing that because of zooming conventional burial costs. I personally would not choose that for myself.In fact, both my wife and myself purchased two side by side burial plots several years ago in a small local cemetery. I think they both face North. If so, that's fine with us. If we qualify for the First Resurrection, I'm sure that the Lord will find us. And I'm sure that it will be the same for your loved one too.
Annabelli Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 I just learned the my cousin was found dead in her apartment on Monday. She has had a very difficult life and you could see that as soon as you would meet her. She is just a year older than I am but she has a face that can tell you a thousand tells. The cousin I am the closest with called me last night to let me know what happened and a bit about the funeral arrangements. She told me that my cousin had not planned for a burial plot but the family would like her layed to rest by family. They checked with the Berg cemetary and there is nothing available right by family. They however have a few babies who are buried there and who are brothers to the deceased. They suggested that my cousin might be placed right there by her parents, her brothers, and touching my grandparents plots. The problem is that if the family decided on that location she would not be placed with her body going from east to went, she would be laying from north to south.What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is placed in the ground the wrong way.I'm very sad to hear of your loss. My nephew died a few weeks ago similar to your cousin. He was 25 years old. I pray for these people a lot because that is the only way to stay close to them. I have heard of the east/west and it was started within the Hebrew culture/religion (maybe). I think that unless the cemetery is a religious one, that it is a matter of landscaping. It does make me feel good to know that she is being buried with her family and not off to herself so that she can simply be east/west.The Jewish Cemetery here has all of the people buried with their heads/stones toward the west so they are facing the east. The Catholic Cemetery is the same. The municipal cemetery is divided by a major street so the folks on the west side are facing the east and the guys on the other side are facing the west. I have never been in the mausoleum which is in the municipal cemetery but it does face east. My revolutionary soldier family ancestors fell to their deaths in battle forming a circle of 5 (although not joining or touching head to toe). They were not buried but the winds of dust/dirt eventually covered their bodies. The east/west thing also pertains to sleeping. In some older homes you will find that the parents/master bedroom was on the east side and the childrens' room(s) were on the west. Most french had their bedrooms on the inside walls surrounding the other rooms of the house. But I feel that your cousin will be blessed to be laid to rest with her loved ones.
StrawberryFields Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Posted October 3, 2007 Aww Thanks for your kind well thought out replies. I am also sorry for the loss of your nephew Annabelli, and for others who lose loved ones. I believe it is the most difficult on those of us left behind... Last night when my oldest cousin called me to let me know about this she asked the same question I put here and I said "She will be amoung family, no one will let he be left behind.:) Old Tex, I also like the way you put things and believe it to be true.... When the time comes the Lord will find us. :) I did a little research and found much the same as the two of you Old Tex and Annabelli.I was also happy to see the origin came from Christians. :) Historically, Christian burials were made supine east-west, with the head at the western end of the grave. This mirrors the layout of Christian churches, and for much the same reason; to view the coming of Christ on Judgement day (Eschaton).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial
Moksha Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 So is this directional thing part of Feng Shui? I think the Chinese Emperors used to like to face South.Frodo and the last ship from the Grey Havens sailed into the West, "Where fields and mountains are ever blessed".Horace Greeley said "Go West young man".The Vikings believed in the Ultima Thule or utmost North.
Jbs2763 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 my dad is buried north/south...his head to the south.., the lil old cemetry we planted him in has people facing all directoins
onyx Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 I just learned the my cousin was found dead in her apartment on Monday. She has had a very difficult life and you could see that as soon as you would meet her. She is just a year older than I am but she has a face that can tell you a thousand tells. The cousin I am the closest with called me last night to let me know what happened and a bit about the funeral arrangements. She told me that my cousin had not planned for a burial plot but the family would like her layed to rest by family. They checked with the Berg cemetary and there is nothing available right by family. They however have a few babies who are buried there and who are brothers to the deceased. They suggested that my cousin might be placed right there by her parents, her brothers, and touching my grandparents plots. The problem is that if the family decided on that location she would not be placed with her body going from east to went, she would be laying from north to south.What will happen to her in the Second Coming of Christ if she is placed in the ground the wrong way.Hi SF,So, so sorry to hear about your cousin.I pray that your family will be comforted.Strawberry, I have never heard of there being a significance to the direction a person's body is laid to rest.I have been to many LDS and non-LDS funerals in my lifetime and have never heard of it before.Perhaps here in Australia we do things differently? I don't know.I buried my dear mother recently and my youngest much-loved brother a few years prior to that.They are alongside each other but they are not laying east to west.They are buried on a slight hill, so they were placed with their feet on the lower part of the incline.I think they will be ok when it's time to rise up, things will work themselves out I feel.There are probably lots of people facing all directions in cemeteries around the globe.I'm no expert of course, but I think things will sort out fine.Hope your week sweetens up.Onys
antispatula Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 Well far be it from me to claim all doctrine matters but I have been under the understanding that when Christ comes again HE will be in the east. Those wanting to greet him will want to rise straight up to meet HIM. :)So in order to meet Christ one must already be facing in his directions when he comes? That doesn't even begin to make sense
StrawberryFields Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Posted October 4, 2007 <div class='quotemain'>Well far be it from me to claim all doctrine matters but I have been under the understanding that when Christ comes again HE will be in the east. Those wanting to greet him will want to rise straight up to meet HIM. :)So in order to meet Christ one must already be facing in his directions when he comes? That doesn't even begin to make sense I did a little research and found much the same as the two of you Old Tex and Annabelli.I was also happy to see the origin can from Christians. Historically, Christian burials were made supine east-west, with the head at the western end of the grave. This mirrors the layout of Christian churches, and for much the same reason; to view the coming of Christ on Judgement day (Eschaton).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BurialThe above is a repost from something I had posted a few posts above and hopefully it will make sense this time as people read it. I found it at Wikinpedia.org as my link again indicates.My cousin died. I was asked the same question I asked here in my OP. This is a practice which has been historically done by Christian Churches I will post it here one more time in bold.Historically, Christian burials were made supine east-west, with the head at the western end of the grave. This mirrors the layout of Christian churches, and for much the same reason; to view the coming of Christ on Judgement day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BurialI have my answer and I feel this thread has reached it's end.Thank You Again for those of you who have wished me their condolences. Tomorrow is her funeral she is just 47.
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