Southpark

[mikbone]

They are getting traction again.

The male abortion one is so on point.

Boy in the girls bathroom.

Also Megan and Harry…

Just reviewed the Joseph Smith ones.

I played world of warcraft in the heyday and that skit was 😂 

 

Quite irreverent, but well documented.  I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a full episode.  But I’m a fan.

Any I’m missing?

[LDSGator]

South Park is both hilarious and cringe inducing for me. It’s like watching the old MTV show with the name of a donkey. You hate yourself for laughing but sometimes it’s just so silly you can’t help it.
 

If you are easily offended you shouldn’t even think of watching it. 
 

I do love how South Park slaughters liberal sacred cows as much as they so with conservative ones. 

Edited February 22, 2023 by LDSGator

[The Folk Prophet]

40 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

If you are easily offended you shouldn’t even think of watching it. 

I have a more...conservative thought...

No one should watch it. Funny is not a virtue.

I'll just leave this here for everyone's consideration:

"We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things."

I'm not trying to just be a stick in the mud. I get that there's a level of balance when it comes to consuming entertainment. I'm not one who says never watch anything that isn't produced by the church or the like. Never read a book that isn't scripture...or something. I'm not suggesting that. I get that sometimes there's going to be something that's more crude than ideal in shows or movies that we can, reasonably, just ignore. But it just strikes me the South Park crosses so far over that line that it really should be avoided by anyone who legitimately seeks after that which is virtuous and is legitimately striving to remove that which is unholy from their lives.

And since I believe we should all be seeking and striving after such things...well....

Just my thoughts.

Edited February 22, 2023 by The Folk Prophet

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I have a more...conservative thought...

No one should watch it. Funny is not a virtue.

I'll just leave this here for everyone's consideration:

"We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things."

I'm not trying to just be a stick in the mud. I get that there's a level of balance when it comes to consuming entertainment. I'm not one who says never watch anything that isn't produced by the church or the like. Never read a book that isn't scripture...or something. I'm not suggesting that. I get that sometimes there's going to be something that's more crude than ideal in shows ro movies that we can, reasonably, just ignore. But it just strikes me the South Park crosses so far over that line that it really should be avoided by anyone who legitimately seeks after that which is virtuous and is legitimately striving to remove that which is unholy from their lives.

And since I believe we should all be seeking and striving after such things...well....

Just my thoughts.

That’s a fine assessment. It’s clearly not a show for everyone. 

[The Folk Prophet]

On a side note: I know many who would claim the exact same for shows like The Simpsons. But I love The Simpsons and think it's fine. So...you know... we all have to judge for ourselves on these things.

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

On a side note: I know many who would claim the exact same for shows like The Simpsons. But I love The Simpsons and think it's fine. So...you know... we all have to judge for ourselves on these things.

I prefer them to South Park as well but I haven’t watched either show on a regular basis in over a decade. 

[The Folk Prophet]

Just now, LDSGator said:

I haven’t watched either show on a regular basis in over a decade. 

Same.

[LDSGator]

I also remember when The Simpsons came out it was considered sort of taboo/dirty/inappropriate. I’m not sure why, because the series was actually a little sweet and sentimental in the very beginning. 

[The Folk Prophet]

1 minute ago, LDSGator said:

I also remember when The Simpsons came out it was considered sort of taboo/dirty/inappropriate. I’m not sure why, because the series was actually a little sweet and sentimental in the very beginning. 

Well, Homer did constantly choke his son.

Haha. Hilarious. *wipes tear from eye* Good times.

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Well, Homer did constantly choke his son.

Haha. Hilarious. *wipes tear from eye* Good times.

Lol. 

[mikbone]

19 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I'm not trying to just be a stick in the mud.

I hear ya.

But then again I’m liking the Chosen’s version of Jesus better than any LDS movie or show.

I can’t imagine going through life without a sense of humor.  

The Jesus in the majority of LDS productions is unbearably dull.

 

[The Folk Prophet]

Just now, mikbone said:

I can’t imagine going through life without a sense of humor.

I don't think the implication here is that someone who doesn't choose to partake in South Park has no sense of humor....

I would hope not. I think I've stated this before...but South Park is funny. But I still maintain it shouldn't be watched, generally speaking.

1 minute ago, mikbone said:

The Jesus in the majority of LDS productions is unbearably dull.

I know people who claim religion is unbearably dull, church is unbearably dull, scripture reading is unbearably dull, seminary or institute is unbearably dull, the temple is unbearably dull, etc.

It cannot help but strike me that "dull" is in the eye of the receiver, and that, perhaps, when certain things are viewed as dull, maybe the problem isn't always with the things.

And some things that aren't dull...drugs, pornography, violence, sex, alcohol, etc.

I dunno. I'm just not convinced using whether something is dull or not is a valid measuring stick as to it's worth.

Lest you think I'm just being contrary...I'm not. I get your point. There is some value, obviously, in quality of production and presentation. And humor is useful in both. But there are, ultimately, more important things that, when put up against how exciting something is perceived to be or not, matter a whole lot more.

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said:

It cannot help but strike me that "dull" is in the eye of the receiver, and that, perhaps, when certain things are viewed as dull, maybe the problem isn't always with the things.

 

It’s 100% in the eye of the beholder, and sometimes (not talking about you @mikbone) when someone thinks things are dull, it‘s because they personally can’t find the joy/interest in the subject. 
 

Again, not saying this about @mikbone. 

[The Folk Prophet]

18 minutes ago, mikbone said:

40 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I'm not trying to just be a stick in the mud.

I hear ya.

I want to be clear too. I AM trying to be a stick in the mud. I'm not just trying to be a stick in the mud.

At some level, we should all be sticks in the mud though....relatively speaking.

[JohnsonJones]

On 2/22/2023 at 10:36 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

I want to be clear too. I AM trying to be a stick in the mud. I'm not just trying to be a stick in the mud.

At some level, we should all be sticks in the mud though....relatively speaking.

I don't view you as a stick in the mud by any shot.

I have a large swath of things I do not watch.  If you are a stick in the mud I imagine I am far worse in that regards towards entertainment in our modern world. 

On a related but different note, I recently got a Kindle (it is a Kindle Scribe.  I like how large it is, but I don't think I'll ever use the note taking attachment to it).  In excitement i have spent FAR too much money on it recently.  I share it with a grandchild who seems to have taken a liking to it.

This is a good thing.

I received around $500 of gift cards to use to buy books on it.  I've had to consider what books to buy and if they are children appropriate as well.  I have found that I have avoided books that have even a hint of adult items in them (for example, Robin McKinley was one that was suggested that we read or buy, but after some research it appears that she has some material which I did not feel comfortable allowing on the device, especially one that a grandchild of mine would also have the possibility of reading).  It has really made me think more deeply on what would also be appropriate for me to have on the device to read.  For fun fiction I read Tarzan in my youth, but there are some items I don't feel would be good for the grandchild to read.  If it is not appropriate for the grandchild, it probably isn't appropriate for me. 

We have gotten some of the OZ books, The Charlie Bucket series (though I understand it was rewritten recently, I am unsure if we have the original or rewrites now), Narnia and some Beverly Cleary books. The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, and the scriptures as well.  Jane Austin novels, and one of my wife's favorite books (I've never read it yet), the Neverending story.  101 Dalmations, the Enchanted Forest Chronicles, The Biff Brewster Series (a series I enjoyed in my youth), Boxcar Children, A Wrinkle in Time, Mr Wickers Window, and several Classics such as Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea, Winnie the Pooh, and A Christmas Carol. 

It is interesting how much more I take into consideration on what I actually want to have on the device when I also know a child will also access it...and I think that's a good thing. 

A talk (I cannot recall who exactly gave it, it was decades ago in General Conference) talked about movies and said, to the effect, that what is not appropriate for one of our little children to watch is probably not appropriate for us to watch.  That has stuck with me through the decades after hearing it.  I travel abroad and they do not always have the rating systems that the United States does, but keeping this advice in mind has always helped me make wiser decisions in what media to consume.  Now, with an actual child using the same device I do, has helped bring it home much more directly to me.  I take the material into consideration much more deeply than I think I would have on my own.

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by JohnsonJones

[Grunt]

On 2/22/2023 at 11:52 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

I have a more...conservative thought...

No one should watch it. Funny is not a virtue.

I'll just leave this here for everyone's consideration:

"We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things."

I'm not trying to just be a stick in the mud. I get that there's a level of balance when it comes to consuming entertainment. I'm not one who says never watch anything that isn't produced by the church or the like. Never read a book that isn't scripture...or something. I'm not suggesting that. I get that sometimes there's going to be something that's more crude than ideal in shows or movies that we can, reasonably, just ignore. But it just strikes me the South Park crosses so far over that line that it really should be avoided by anyone who legitimately seeks after that which is virtuous and is legitimately striving to remove that which is unholy from their lives.

And since I believe we should all be seeking and striving after such things...well....

Just my thoughts.

We don't watch it in our home.

[Grunt]

On 2/22/2023 at 11:56 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

On a side note: I know many who would claim the exact same for shows like The Simpsons. But I love The Simpsons and think it's fine. So...you know... we all have to judge for ourselves on these things.

We don't watch Simpsons, either.