Ignorance and Faith

[laronius]

Does

D&C 131:6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance.

Teach us anything about 

Alma 32:21 And now as I said concerning faith—faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.

[CV75]

1 hour ago, laronius said:

Does

D&C 131:6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance.

Teach us anything about 

Alma 32:21 And now as I said concerning faith—faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.

I think the two scriptures are compatible in that knowledge opposes ignorance. We are saved in Christ, not ignorance.

[Vort]

3 hours ago, laronius said:

Does

D&C 131:6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance.

Teach us anything about 

Alma 32:21 And now as I said concerning faith—faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.

D&C 131:5 teaches us a lot about D&C 131:6.

Edited 14 hours ago by Vort

[zil2]

You cannot be saved without knowing you're being saved.

You cannot be saved until you have learned all that you need to know as a participant in that process.

The mysteries of God are nothing more or less than knowledge.

Those who inherit the celestial kingdom will eventually gain all the knowledge which God now has.

Man cannot be saved in ignorance.

That said, I believe, in large part because of Lectures on Faith, that there are two kinds of faith, only one of which is made "dormant" by knowledge.

[Traveler]

It is not by faith alone but rather by faith in Jesus Christ that we hold to the iron rod to obtain the Tree of Life.  In essence, it is by faith that we obtain knowledge.  Jesus explained it this way – John 8:31-32

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31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

 

The Traveler

[Ironhold]

7 hours ago, laronius said:

Does

D&C 131:6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance.

Teach us anything about 

Alma 32:21 And now as I said concerning faith—faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.

Look at it this way.

IRL, I'm an entertainment writer. 

I don't have any sort of training or education in the arts; I was actually training for a career in insurance when the 2008 recession happened and I had to remake myself a few times. 

However, I've been a big fan of movies & "escapist" entertainment all my life, to the point that even before I got started I'd consumed enough content to have a pretty fair reference pool of what was or wasn't worthwhile. I had also spent well over a decade teaching myself about the larger entertainment industry as I participated in internet forums and other sites dedicated to various forms of entertainment and specific franchises. 

I don't have a "perfect" knowledge in that sense, but I know more than the average person and can properly evaluate a given work on its merits.