Taxes (BLECH!)

[MorningStar]

So I was working on my taxes today (finally) and I filled in my info, put my W-2 and 1099 safely back into the drawer I had them in, and later when I wanted to ask my husband a question about his salary, they were gone. I hadn't moved from this seat, there wasn't any clutter around me, they hadn't fallen behind the desk, I hadn't stacked them on top of anything, so I started tearing through the drawer I had them in, looked in all the other ones even though I knew I didn't put them in there, dug through a nearby box even though I knew I didn't put them in there, and then I looked through all the drawers again and found them in the very, very back of the bottom drawer. They had fallen through the back of the top drawer all the way to the bottom. Ugh! It was good to know I put them where I thought I did.

That's just the beginning of my tax joy. I so hate taxes. I don't hate paying them as much as I hate filing them. One of my worst fears is being audited. I'm just afraid of making a boo boo and not realizing it. Luckily one year there was a boo boo and it was in my favor (actually, I think it was the Air Force finance office's boo boo) and the IRS sent us a letter saying they owed us over $500. We were terrified to cash it in case they were wrong, but we went over the numbers over and over again and finally realized that there was an error. Yay!

Misery loves company. Who else hates doing taxes? On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being not hating it at all and 10 meaning you really, really, really hate it, how much do you hate it?

[Alaskagain]

(Satan moved those forms.)

TEN.

Why I have not been in the chat room lately.

Why I have been cranky.

Why I have stacks of papers around my computer.

Why I didn't cook dinner tonight.

Why I am in favor of the Fair tax or any other equitable sounding consumer driven tax system which causes someone other than me to fill out forms.

If the government is going to require collection of taxes from individual citizens, the forms and laws therefor should be easily understood and able to be completed by a 6th grader. It really irks me to have to spend $80-$100 for tax software or $300-$1200 to a tax preparer in order to get the forms filled out properly.

Besides which, I must submit a report of personal details of my life to the government. It is a personal invasion of privacy.

UGH!

[a-train]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

[skalenfehl]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

Are you serious?

[MorningStar]

(Satan moved those forms.)

TEN.

Why I have not been in the chat room lately.

Why I have been cranky.

Why I have stacks of papers around my computer.

Why I didn't cook dinner tonight.

Why I am in favor of the Fair tax or any other equitable sounding consumer driven tax system which causes someone other than me to fill out forms.

If the government is going to require collection of taxes from individual citizens, the forms and laws therefor should be easily understood and able to be completed by a 6th grader. It really irks me to have to spend $80-$100 for tax software or $300-$1200 to a tax preparer in order to get the forms filled out properly.

Besides which, I must submit a report of personal details of my life to the government. It is a personal invasion of privacy.

UGH!

AMEN!!!!!!!

Have you seen Stranger than Fiction? I'm going to watch it tonight just so I can listen to that lady yelling, "GET BENT, TAX MAAAAAAN!!!!!!!"

[MorningStar]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

Aren't you afraid of going to jail?

[skalenfehl]

Actually looking at his profile and seeing that he's self employed, it is possible that he found the perfect tax strategies. I'm also self employed and as an S-corp I take as much advantage of the system as I can; not cheat, but utilize. Still I'd like to not have to pay into social security or medicare.

If I understand correctly, social security was put into the general fund back during the time of the Vietnam War and the general fund has since been depleted. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Alaskagain]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

:oGood luck with that, a-train. (Did you use your real name to register here?)

[Canuck Mormon]

I would say about a 4-5. This is only because I usually get a refund of around $1000.

Me and my wife did our taxes the other night on the computer, and because we got married this past year plus all the deductions we are getting an amazing refund. It's enough to pay for our Alaskan Cruise in August!!!

[Hemidakota]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

You are correct. It was a major issue with our founding fathers in regard to taxation by the government.

Actually, the government does not require the income tax for revenue since there other venues to pay for services.

[Hemidakota]

So I was working on my taxes today (finally) and I filled in my info, put my W-2 and 1099 safely back into the drawer I had them in, and later when I wanted to ask my husband a question about his salary, they were gone. I hadn't moved from this seat, there wasn't any clutter around me, they hadn't fallen behind the desk, I hadn't stacked them on top of anything, so I started tearing through the drawer I had them in, looked in all the other ones even though I knew I didn't put them in there, dug through a nearby box even though I knew I didn't put them in there, and then I looked through all the drawers again and found them in the very, very back of the bottom drawer. They had fallen through the back of the top drawer all the way to the bottom. Ugh! It was good to know I put them where I thought I did.

That's just the beginning of my tax joy. I so hate taxes. I don't hate paying them as much as I hate filing them. One of my worst fears is being audited. I'm just afraid of making a boo boo and not realizing it. Luckily one year there was a boo boo and it was in my favor (actually, I think it was the Air Force finance office's boo boo) and the IRS sent us a letter saying they owed us over $500. We were terrified to cash it in case they were wrong, but we went over the numbers over and over again and finally realized that there was an error. Yay!

Misery loves company. Who else hates doing taxes? On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being not hating it at all and 10 meaning you really, really, really hate it, how much do you hate it?

10...I rather it go to tithing.

[skalenfehl]

...I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit...

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this void (assuming it's true) during time of war? When have we not been at war? There have been wars since I was born and before. There are the World Wars, Korean War, Vietnam War (when I was born), Gulf War, Desert Storm, War in Iraq, just to name a few. Not sure if you can count the Cold War.

I maximize all my deductions and do my very best to calculate what my withholdings will be so that I don't get a refund at the end of the year. All that means is I gave the government an interest free loan.

[prisonchaplain]

I paid $9.95 for my tax program, which included one free efile. My return came in about two weeks. I probably spent two hour max--and I'm not well organized. As for the idea that we don't have to pay certain taxes--I've met a few who believe that...in my line of work.

[skalenfehl]

As for the idea that we don't have to pay certain taxes--I've met a few who believe that...in my line of work.

:lol:

[Flyonthewall]

I quit. Gave up two years ago. I found out there is no law that requires me to do it and so I just quit. It's great.

I don't pay social security, medicare, or medicaid and don't expect to get any benefits therefrom. That whole Great Society thing is bankrupt, why would I invest in it?

-a-train

Wesley Snipes had the same thought, now I think he would have been better off paying his taxes.

[Canuck Mormon]

I paid $9.95 for my tax program, which included one free efile. My return came in about two weeks. I probably spent two hour max--and I'm not well organized. As for the idea that we don't have to pay certain taxes--I've met a few who believe that...in my line of work.

Make sure you say hi to a-train for us.:lol:

[prisonchaplain]

Make sure you say hi to a-train for us.:lol:

I've heard that Canadian drug enforcement is sometimes less than stringent, but that Canada Revenue don't play!

[Hemidakota]

At this point, we are told to sustained the law of the land. Yes! No matter if the IRS laws are not constitutional. We have wait until the Lord to say differently. As presented in the 12th Article of Faith:

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

[WANDERER]

Tax...mine is taken out through automatic deductions (no amount owing that way) and then get someone else (tax agent) to do the form filling for me (it's refundable). I try and claim as much back as possible *within the law and that is fair* from that amount. So there's always a return at the end of it (a certain amount of overpaying is done and claimed back, but it makes life simple).

A-Train...not exactly stuff to volunteer on a forum mate...although I have heard of people who *may* do that.

[miztrniceguy]

since we got married, 2 kids, a house, and 2 home based businesses we pay about $80 for the home and business tax program. we have deductions for medical expenses, and anything my wife buys that is for her business, plus a percent of all utilities, incl internet, mortgage etc since she has a home office. we typically get large refunds.

[kona0197]

I let HR Block do my taxes. I did mine in mid January as I got my W2 back early.

[skalenfehl]

Tax refunds typically mean you overpaid on your withholdings. If you calculate them correctly that's more money in your pocket each pay day. If you prefer to have extra money withheld, why not just take the money yourself and put it in a savings account or a safe investment that earns you interest. You can take that money at the end of the year and pay any owed taxes if there happens to be any. Otherwise, you just give Uncle Sam an interest free loan. That interest should stay in your pocket.

The beauty of living in America is being able to start a small business, any kind, incorporate and write off your expenses. If you love photography, you can build a small studio in your home or landscape your yard for outdoor wedding pictures, etc. The rich use all these tax strategies and the tax strategies are there for a reason. You can go into partnership with your spouse and make it a side business. Your kids can be corporate officers in your company when they're old enough to work. All that wonderful company revenue stays in your household and much of what you needed to do (like landscape your home) became an expense. These principles can be applied to most kinds of businesses. The more small businesses that flourish the stronger our economy becomes.

[kona0197]

Starting a business isn't as easy as you think it is.

By the way have you always been a mod?

[skalenfehl]

Starting a business isn't as easy as you think it is.

By the way have you always been a mod?

I know what it takes to start a business. I sold greeting cards door to door at a very young age and also mowed lawns and washed cars. I was also a paper boy. I started a construction company ten years ago using a credit card and a lot of ambition.

I was recently invited to become a moderator by Heather. I hope I can do a well enough job.

[kona0197]

Well I'll don't agree with that decision...

I so much liked the old site.