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Does the UK have free speech/ free religion? Besides free speech, as i understand it, protects what you have to say not how you say it. In this case it is important to note This is more than one gay officer with an "ax to grind" I'm with gaysaint on this the truth is in the middle

I don't know if i would quote Matt 5 , the sermon on the mound ,on a thread about marriage. This is also the talk were Jesus says

From a secular standpoint i think it is absurd and am glad we don't live in a theocracy. From a religious standpoint however i would point out the we are members of probably the most "strict" christian religion on modesty and many who don't live our standards would see them just as oppressive Their Omans telling Muslim women they are to cover their hair is to our Apostles telling women to cover their shoulders and cleavage. And while women don't get the same rights men get the same punishment (at least in extreme crimes like adultery) Men stoned to death for adultery, murder in Iran - CNN.com

I miss cirie. I mean in the beginning i despise her because the votes out the alphas and this destroys her tribes chances but she seems to be the only survivor i have seen who is smart enough to take out the alphas running the show while everyone else just hangs on to them,

Why would her exaltation be at stake? I mean the "general consensus" is that singles who don't find their eternal companions but follow the commandments will be given a shot on the other side so why would the married, who don't find an eternal companion but follow the commandments be out of luck? We do temple work for the dead. Who is to say that my non lds grandparents, who had their work done after death, will get the chance to accept but Larry King will not? I don't think it is in our pay grade Is there some scripture that says if your a member then your sealing can only be done on this side? If marrying a non member(not getting sealed) was an automatic failure i would think it would be a commandment. Has anyone sealed a part member family/ couple?

Nice catch. I was about to give you a hard time for falling for another old outdated thread

Both. Faith is the foundation but works are manifestations of that faith. Smoke detector goes off. You leave and the building burns down. You were saved buy your "works" (leaving the building) because of your faith (that smoke means fire).

new member, has joined all the other big religions (that have very little in common) that are viewed as "cult" and tosses out some of the most controversial Mormon issues. I'm thinking However in the event i'm wrong (which i doubt) i would say OP your family has every right to be concerned when you look into a new religion based on your track record and would suggest putting some more research into future endeavors,

I don't know how anyone would come to that conclusion (I know you're just pointing out that he is inferring , not you) In the reading of Enoch the only changing of marriage i have seen. The Sons of God (Fallen angels, Watcher ,or aliens if you Google it;)) mate with the daughters of men. These women give birth to evil spirits and giants. Not to mention the book goes on to explain how star revolving (based on the number of angels in them) produces light.

Just a heads up his son was arrested 3 years ago. So i'm sure the issue has been resolved

I have a much more "liberal "view on these issues then most. Smoking- He's 18 Ouija board- A mass produced toy made by Parker Brothers, As evil as Monopoly or Risk Marijuana- I support NORML Sex- At least he uses protection, and quite frankly i wouldn't be surprised (if i were you) considering you let him have his girlfriend stay. That being said you did the right thing. Your home your rules. Nothing wrong with that.

Go straight to the source.

Podiatrist office

God don't kill sinners because they sin. I'm living proof:evilsmile:

Don't fall for it. Proverbs 27:6

Pin it on the lawyer. Nice:p;). (but i get what you're saying , i don't think that it would be less traumatic , even though you can word it it better, ) In either event the child will not have it easy. Sad situation all around. (Side note: I get the impression you favor the child current situation over the father and wonder if it is based the law or the situation. I.E. If the father was married with a 9-5 would you be more apt to "pull" for him?

Admittedly i don't know a lot of adopted but of the few i have known there has been 2 views on the subject about their birth parents. The angry "Screw them they didn't want me" in which case the adopted parents will have to say " Well that's not true, your mother didn't want you, left the state and your father spent thousands of dollars on lawyers trying to get you but we fought him cause we wanted you" The realistic "Well they couldn't take care of me so they gave me up for a better life" in which case the adopted parents will have to say " Well that's not true, your mother didn't want you, left the state and your father spent thousands of dollars on lawyers trying to get you but we fought him cause we wanted you" Personally as hard as it would be on a 14 moth old i think it would be much harder to explain to a 14 year old how her adopted parents fought to keep her from her birth father, who wanted her but was denied that right because her birth mother fled town.

Round 2 A Priest A High Priest An Elder :)

I'm a child of the 80s and compare myself the the bad guy in a kids cartoon. "Bad" when compared to "ultra pure" heroes but my evil is pretty tame when compared with the rest world.

that have no place elsewhere. Making this thread to ask a few questions that don't deserve their own thread. Feel free to add your own. Rameumptom. Why did you choose that name? I know in your sig it says "A Holy Stand or Podium, where I can pontificate to my heart's delight." however IIRC (don't read my scriptures as often i should) the rameupmton was used by the apostate church who all said the same thing, thought they were better then everyone else, lived the gospel only at church etc. (Not implying you think that way) Just wondering why you picked the "bad guys" improper item as a name? Seems like a Catholic picking "Baptism by immersion" as a name;) Traveler. You use the word G-d or L-rd (with the o left out) as a sign of respect. But use the name Jesus without this edit. I understand it is historical but why is "misspelling" a title respectful but using the proper name ok? In todays world it is the opposite. E.G "Hey Barraks on tv" rude "Hey President Obama is on tv" proper "Mr Smith, can Suzy come out and play" proper "Jon, and Suzy come out to play" rude.

Since when is not doing/ consuming something you don't like rude? Say (as an adult) "No thanks, i don't smoke" "No thanks, i don't drink" "No thanks, i don't really like watching sports" "No thanks, i don't really like like that bands language, movies sexual undertone, violence etc." Response: "ok" Say (as an adult) "No thanks, i don't like tomatoes" "No thanks i don't like that food" Response "WHAT, you have never had MY tomatoes !" "How do you know you don't like blood pudding if you never had it!" "Come on just one little bite!" "Just give it a try, everyone else likes it" We hear "don't give into peer pressure." and knowing what one wants, likes and dislikes is a trait that is admired until it comes to food. Then you're bound to eat every piece of slop* that comes across your plate. [/rant] as a man of discriminating taste this social more bothers me:). There is nothing wrong with refusing food, unless you ask for a replacement.Or you call it slop. * slop meant not only to apply to bad tasting food due to bad cooking skills but food you don't like. E.G. Some shrimp scampi might be the best. It might be served at fine dinning establishments and win awards. But because shrimp taste horrible (to my palette ) it is slop

So 12% of the workers get the recognition. Actually to be honest i'm not a big fan off the pop and circumstance surrounding things like this. The fact that they make such a big deal about helping the less fortunate is an indication that we (everyone) don't do it often enough. IMO

My mother had this fancy decorative plate hanging on the wall that read "Lord grant me patience. But please hurry."

I do Not doubt a gay person could suffer PSTD. . Self reported data is subject to personal bias. I agree. But i was pointing out it was the actions that bring the response. Not the attraction. (A bit tongue in cheek based on wingnuts post that it's the action that is wrong not the attraction No no no. Not at all. You're reading me wrong See if i can clarify my point. I'm saying the violence (not the PSTD which is a separate issue* and medically confirmed i would think) that occurred in childhood (after the fact) is subject to that bias. (and admitted that bias can go both ways) Kids toss a kid in the mud while calling him queer. If he is there is more chance he will internalize it and consider it a violent act based on sexual orientation. (They might not mean anything by it, based on his sexuality, but just as an insult. Hence it is reported as a violent act based on orientation. even if it is not. If he is not, he might blow it off as "kids being kids" (And in fact it could be based on the assumption he is gay, in which case it would be an unreported violent act based on orientation) I have no doubt being gay is extremely hard on a kid growing up. And would never suggest "they get what they deserve" or any such nonsense. What i'm saying is that a person who is a victim now,(openly gay people make "better targets" (for lack of a better term) is more apt to recall being a victim in the past, even to the point of confusing "kids being kids" Hope that makes sense

Which is interesting because according to the study the risk only comes to those who act on the behavior Personally i can't help but wonder if the study is skewed. I mean it isn't the sexual attraction that bring the risk but the actions. If this is the case i wouldn't be surprised to see that those who are practicing homosexuals face more hardship now and would be more likely to recall the childhood events as traumatic where as a non practicing ones would be more likely to blow off childhood events .