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I would add to this not everyone who says "I know the church is true" necessarily has a testimony.There are many who didn't actually investigate the church but were simply raised in it.. I spent a large part of my youth as a good example of a "strong faithful member" with a "great testimony". Yet it didn't exist. This is why it is better for first generationers. I think it's more likely that they have put the church to the test, not that the born in churchers don't, but a convert "has to" investigate, while others can go on cruse control for years or even decades. The important thing to note is that a testimony is not a measurable thing. It is easy to say, so- and so left so they must be offended, or want to sin but the fact is we don't know, it is above our pay grade. Personally i think many who leave don't/didn't have a testimony. From my own personal experiences i left the church in my late teens, and took on some bad habits. From an outside perspective it was easy for people to think, The church is against smoking drinking etc., hordak smokes and drinks, Therfor he must have left because he wanted to sin. (In fact some did) But they were wrong. I would never risk eternal life for something so trivial. If i had had a testimony then i wouldn't have had done that stuff. The fact is i didn't have one, i didn't leave church to sin, i left church because i didn't believe, since i didn't believe there was no reason to follow the churches rules. It's like seeing a Jew, or Muslim leave their faith and concluding they did it for the Bacon and pork chop. So in conclusion why would a person with a "strong testimony" leave the church. We don't know. It is between them and God.

I think your trying too hard (meant in the nicest way possible.) Dating is a lot of pressure, and must be more so in a YSA ward, and people tend to "act" in a way. I had very few meaningful relationships when dating, it was when i "gave up", and could relax and be myself that my best friend found me. Don't look at dating like a task or job interview, something that is done or can be completed. Look at it like church or an activity you enjoy, something that you do. Enjoy the "sport" and you will be yourself. Aim solely for the "win" and you will miss out on a lot of the game, be more devastated by the losses (And most likely come off different) Hope that makes sense

I have heard this about Star wars 2-3 and George Bush/ Iraq war Seems to be a common thing these days. I see it allot in Kids films. I actually saw Avatar when i was a kid, it was called Fern Gully Never saw it. I know how it ends:). Seriously though i never saw it nor had the desire to. I agree. I think technology has hurt cinema now that special effect can overcome a bad plot/ dialogue/ acting. I really noticed this in Disney /pixar / Dreamworks computer animation films. I think they can put them out faster, and cheaper then cartoons and therefor are less concerned with making a good story. now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

Ya know. I watched that movie a few weeks ago up until the scientist got arrested and the female solder came to break them out. I never saw the ending. Guess i don't have to now. Thanks for ruining the movie:mad: Don't worry, i figured he would somehow get to become one of them anyway.

I have actually heard LDS men are more picky because they are looking for an eternal companion and not just a quick trip behind the "bike shed" People going for a bike shed trip are generally more accepting of others "flaws" whether they be physical or personality based.From what i have seen.

It's interesting because yesterday i was watching Taboo on nat geo and it was on weight. In one country in Asia the actually use sticks to pinch their daughters feet to help in over feeding them, obesity is a sign of beauty there, they also had people in the US who are specifically attracted to larger women. I myself had been rejected plenty of times because of my height, ironically those who were most vocal about it were the first to call me superficial based on my standards regarding weight Eventually i met a great girl whom not only didn't care about height but liked shorter men and 7 years later we are going strong... My point is everyone has a preference and and while you might not fit in everyone's doesn't mean you don't fit in someones. I would however recommend losing weight for heath reasons. *hordak not actually pictured*

My faith is pretty big on "appearance" as well and has actually read letters in meeting instructing members not to wear thing like flip flops. I think not taking communion with lipstick (assume your all drinking out of the same glass) is pretty tame in comparison, and some good advice. We do the same thing. In fact attendance is not required to be listed/ counted as a member once one has been baptized. I would agree it takes a lot of commitment to be a "good" member (aka peter priesthood/ molly Mormon) (for lack of a better term) But i don't think it's an all or nothing thing, and don't think the all or nothing approach is a good thing in many cases.

Perhaps her saying she loves mommy more because she is sick "reenforces" the affect terminal illness on the family,. You can really see how your daughter can see whats going on and how it troubles her?

So "they" oppose DOMA because it interferes with a states right to define marriage while "they" oppose California chosen definition of marriage ?

Buy used If it isn't diapers ( and i would be reluctant to stock up as i have gotten boxes of them from others who tried to but the child grew faster then expected) or a car seat (due to recalls you may miss) get it used. Don't buy much clothing, because regardless of what you register for baby shower wise you will be drowned in "cute outfits" your friends had to get. Just took 5 trash bags full of baby clothes to goodwill most of which was worn once, if at all.

While it is more invasive it is really no different then dying ones hair, getting "plugs", buying a fancy sports car etc. It can be a good thing or bad, Depends on your motivation, It can be "I like the way I look with this" or "I think others will like the way i look with this" One thing i do find ironic however is the acceptance of one form of body modification over another.(In conservative society in general) Injecting poison (botox) into ones face to look young or getting silicone implants= a ok Put a hole or get some ink under the skin and suddenly, the body is a temple or you hear "If God wanted you to have x you would have been born that way" ( which could cover just about any effort we use to "beautify" ourselves, even the socially acceptable ones)

Larry Scott. Devout Mormon and body builder. Many would consider this, if worn to the office, a bit immodest (to say the least) however since it was his profession it's a bit different then having the dentist come in for your x rays in this getup. Depending on your skin tone many "natural" colors could draw the same attention. So personally i would say if your NOT doing it to temp others sexually (i have never known someone to be tempted based purely on hair color) and it is "part of the job" i would worry. Follow up question . Why do hair dressers have the weirdest colors/ and cuts anyway? Seems like going to the mechanic with the most busted up car.

]Which do you prefer and which part of the country (if from USA) do you hail from? North, South, East, West? Midwest, then southwest, then "south" then west, now Midwest again, 1. Jello--side dish or dessert? Dessert, that is why the motto is "there's always room for jello" because you eat it when done eating 2. Soda, pop, or coke? Pop, it says so on the can (i know it's not on all cans but it's more efficient, one syllable vs the 2 of so-da) 3. Mac and cheese--side dish or main dish? prefer it as side but growing up poor it was a main too often 4. Biscuits and gravy--tear up the biscuit and eat with spoon or split biscuit and eat with knife/fork? Tearing is much more satisfying 5. Grits--sweet or savory? Crazy southern food i don't eat 6. Bathroom tissue--over or under? Under, keeps the kids from taking too much 7. Green onions or scallions? Don't eat much seafood;) . Don't eat green veggies 8. Pecan: pecahn or peecan? Pecahn, with bad British accent

Without dead horses what would we talk about. Besides i like the "ambiguity" of this topic, as a youth it allowed me to be a "bad boy" without actually being a bad boy. Standing by my mothers station wagon kicking back a jolt cola.... thishttp://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/6ac538b57620a8fc plus this http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/42cdff20174f1cf2 equals http://thm-a04.yimg.com/nimage/3ea867d36c1d16e6 :) (the picture is not me)

It is not your obligation to tell everyone you date your history. On the other hand if he would dump someone for "getting frisky" before they were with him you don't want to be with him, not because he is wrong for his standard but because you don't meet it. Think of it this way, what if you dumped your last boyfriend because he had a past issue (lets say he he had a drug problem) and new guy finds out. He himself had a drug problem in the past but decides to hide it for fear of getting dumped. Would that be koser? I hate to sound harsh but . seriously clashes with this

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I must agree that the green tea "cure all" is a fad. A study i saw showing the " cancer prevention" in mice results when made equivalent with humans would require about 5 gallons a day in consumption. However i would be hesitant to say "tea is tea". Yes it is from the "same plant", but so is street grade heroin, legally prescribed vicodin, and the poppy seeds in the delicious chicken brought to ward potlucks by one of our high priest wife. The Bishop didn't feel the need to cancel the next temple trip after that potluck, or yank TRs from the mothers recovering from c- sections with the aid of narcotic medication. Also while the lord may have prohibited coffee and tea from the saints (or those who may be called saints) he banned the Jews from eating stuff we love. To say tea isn't for the body (anybody) because we are told to abstain would be like a Jew claiming shellfish or pork is not for the body. I would also agree with hemi's "diet pill" diet and exercise:thumbsup: and point out that nicotine is not (explicitly) against the WoW (tobacco is) as nicotine is not unique to tobacco but is common in the nightshade family which includes eggplant,red peppers, tomatoes and potatoes. Now you know why lays potato chips motto is "bet you cant eat just one";) (i am aware the concentration in these plants are less then in tobacco)

My wife has an unaccompanied tour to Korea coming up (she goes there for a year while the family stays here) and my father has offered to come stay with me to help out. I don't need the help (this isn't the first time i have played "single parent" and it will not be the last, it is part of the job) but it would be much appreciated. Logistically it is a bit of a problem for him. He will have to leave his job and network of family/friends and try to find employment and start fresh here with no network. (everyone we know works for the gov) The issue is compounded by the fact when my wife gets back next year we will be moving to Japan so he will have no support in the area when we leave, except what he has made in his year here. At the same time since we are a military family and have never been in real close proximity he only gets to see the grand kids once or twice a year and this would be a great opportunity for them to get to know each other better. For me it is really no skin off my nose, provided i can say "go to your room" to him if he gets on my nerves (ah the irony) but for him it is a huge risk. I have mentioned the risks, when he brought up the idea and he pretty much blew them off. If he is doing it for me i don't want him to take the risk but if for himself and grand kids then i'm all for it. Problem is with his personality i really can't get a straight answer. (He would do, and has done, anything for his kids including risking/ damaging his own financial security) So my question for grandparents is would you give up your job, to move closer and spend more time with grand kids you rarely get to see and probably will not for the next 4 years. (Trying to determine if it is for him as a grandfather, or me as a son)

Mormon kids grow up with a piano in the living room so they can learn to play hymns at church. Contemporary Christian kids are given drum sets and guitars so they can play contemporary worship music at church. Generally speaking.

Just out of curiosity how does the church handle that? Would a divorced and remarried Catholic get exed for adultery, or would it be more like a WoW violation or failing to pay tithing in the LDS church.

In the interest of fairness i would imagine the photos she would provide would be of her most conservative clothing since that's "her angle"

Women Fired From Bank For Being Too Sexy? (Photos) - KRLD Besides the obvious fact we don't really know what happened, do people actually think this immodest?

I just linked to you because whoever you missed the name in whomever you quoted so i wasn't arguing that is what you were arguing just trying to point out people shouldn't get discouraged and forgo a "proper diet" (as it pertains to calorie intake) because they can't have a "proper diet" (as it pertains to healthy food.) i.e. if one needs to lose weight and can't eat better eat smarter. If one has to eat Mac an Cheese instead of chicken Caesar salads eat less.

Don't get me wrong i'm NOT advocating eating junk. ( I get regular physicals and the only negatives the Drs have ever had to tell me is quit smoking. Back then while on that diet i was also a pack a day smoker, which typically raises cholesterol levels and blood pressure, but i was still in healthy ranges. The magic of regular cardiovascular exercise) My point is people get hung up on/ and discouraged because they can't/don't eat healthy and cause themselves to fail. How many times have you seen someone start a diet Monday then Tuesday they slip up in the morning and have doughnut so at lunch they say " I, already messed up today, i'll start tomorrow" and they take the "bad" food option (or skip the calorie count). Tomorrow becomes next week, next month etc. My point is a calorie is a calorie. If one "screws up" and has a 400kcal krispy kreme morning snack they can skip the 400kcal tuna on toast to make up for it and get the same calorie deficiency at the end of the day. Healthy eating is better for the body, but not being able to eat healthy doesn't mean you can't lose weight or be healthier. University Communications | Media Relations :: Eastern Illinois University Portion size me. 2 students live off a diet of fast food,for a month,

Healthy food vs unhealthy food doesn't matter as much as people think. In the long run eating healthier is better, and unhealthy food tends to be more calorie rich ( e.g. the 400kcals in a king size reeses peanut butter cup will not fill up and "satisfy" in the way 2 cups of cooked rice would, fat has 9 cal per gram while protein and carbs have 4) but a calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Is a calorie a calorie? -- Buchholz and Schoeller 79 (5): 899S -- American Journal of Clinical Nutrition Not saying eating healthy isn't important, but portion control and exercise, energy in vs energy out, has a greater affect on body comp then eating right.