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When we first stored wheat, we also didn't know how to use it and cook it. But we learned and are now healthier for our efforts.

Hala, you don't have to grow into LDS shoes. You are already more humble than most LDS people!!!! I was wondering if your life/background has given you teachings about God taking many forms? Just know that Father in Heaven wants you and has called you by His Holy Spirit into His Truth. Know that He is patient with us as we grow into His Will, and He will be there with you every step of the way, no matter what. May I welcome you into the marvelous Gospel with open arms. I don't stand up to men......this was what/how I was taught in my home/experiences. So, when I must deal with someone that is pushy beyond my comfort, I tend to just try to avoid them as much as possible. Hugs........

Personally for me, when I met her, I thought oh oh, she's not his type even at all....but I would not ever ever tell him that, as this is not me making the decision, I am here as a sounding board/support only. I use type for lack of a better word.....he has dated all kinds of girls.......short, tall, pretty, not pretty, slim, very overweight, etc. He is good looking as well as kind, and the girls fall for him fast which to him is too shallow.......he wants a growing friendship that also has mutual attraction to the inside person and outside person. You might wonder why I'm 'involved'?? I am only involved as far as he wishes me to be, and I listen when he needs to talk. His Dad would be the one he'd talk to if his Dad was alive.

I agree with Gwen: "In my opinion one thing you will need to sort out in the repentance process is the why. Was it just sexual experimentation or do you have homosexual feelings? That will be important in knowing where to go from here." In today's society, I would imagine there are many homosexuals that think they are gay because of an experience like yours. Certainly there must be the factor of pleasure, though I do not know of this for myself.....just guessing because sexual feelings are strong driving pleasurable urges. Any sexual experience outside of God's will should indeed cause guilt, so you are on the right track for sure. When you go to your bishop, ask God ahead of time to be there with you.

My 22 year old son met a local 19 year old girl online. They chatted, emailed, etc and were both enjoying their time spent online. They agreed to meet and to remain friends no matter what. She came to his apartment, he made dinner, and he had me there to make the meeting a more safe experience for both of them.....her friends were freaking out that she was meeting at his apartment. The girl was really nice, and pretty; but my son said he knew it was going to be just a friendship. He was very kind in letting her know he wanted them to just be friends. She refuses to speak to him, she told him that he didn't even have any hurt over it, which is not true, as I sat with him while he worked/talked through the pain of feeling bad. I wish I could have had a video of him talking it out, and trying to get through the sadness he felt.....so this girl could see indeed he also hurt over this. Now she won't talk to him at all....they have no friendship, no contact. I asked him what he liked about her, he answered, she's fun and intelligent and we had good times talking online getting to know each other. I wish she wouldn't have given up so fast, and I'm sad for anything in her life that caused such a hurt reaction. If I could talk to her, I'd say........oh dear girl, don't give up, keep on being friends.....sometimes attraction comes later......but if not, you two had a good connection so continue with that.

You and your husband are amazing!! To want to rebuild is a rare thing and a treasure. Perhaps one of your concerns is feeling loved? Has this been addressed in your counseling sessions? You feeling truly loved was most likely broken into bits with what he did. I like that you are willing to stay in the marriage if he is willing to repent and change.....that takes great courage. I also stayed when my husband asked me to, though our reasons were not the same as yours. Infact, my bishop did not want me to stay. In counseling, I faced a lot of hurt that had never been faced/fixed that was from my past. And in counseling, my husband faced post traumatic syndrome from his work that had never been addressed, so it had grown out of control. The end result, which took a long time: we are deeper in love than ever. Our home became a haven of peace. We gained skills of communication and developed great respect for each other. The mutual respect brought back not only intimacy, but an improved intimacy and tenderest of love.

I don't fall for my husband's bull shoyavitch and he doesn't fall for mine. Go to counseling and get tools of communicaiton plus needed healing. Marriage and home can become and should be, a place of peace, yes there are disagreements, but they don't have to be fights. YES, ditch the divorce threats.....that is NOT allowed by either one, make that a sealed deal.....no exceptions ever.

friedmann: ~first of all, let me say how much I admire your steadfastness, keep up the marvelous work of your good testimony. ~you do have someone at your ward to talk to: go to your bishop for needed loving support ~you are like the early members of the church.....they gave up family and everything to follow the Truth. I do hope you don't have to give up your family.. I do suggest that you strive to not talk to them about any of this right now, as they are quite hostile it seems.....maybe hoping to change your mind?? Do what Christ would do: love them peacefully and prayerfully, seek charity, the pure love of Christ. ~may I just say wow......you are an impressive young man......I have children that grew up in the gospel and are now athiests......I'd love to have them fighting the good fight like you are. ~study the early church members and what they went through to be a member

Yes, forgiving yourself will possibly be your biggest challenge. But it is needed so you can completely let go of the guilt. I would not tell your parents yet...... Get to your Bishop and the relief of confession that goes with talking to him. Then, be prayerful......if you have parents that would just make it worse for you, I'd not go in that direction right now.....and I'm a parent giving you these ideas to think over prayerfully. Some parents 'freak out', making the entire situation soooo much worse. The Spirit is obviously warning you: 'these challenges are not the road for you". Dear one, I will say that life presents us with many weaknesses, as we are human. I was an adult before I ever masturbated.....the guilt was horrible.....it's a long gone/repented of problem now, but it was not a happy time at all, for sure. I wanted to be clean and that act did not make me feel clean. We have the Savior and His Atonement to help us through every weakness and trial. Give Him your problem, put it in His mighty Hands, talk to Him about how you feel, then watch as your problem melts in His Mighty Loving Hands. God bless you.......hugs........

Yes!! I will send you a personal message with 2 site links. The whole idea is to just try......just experiment.....and let your taste buds get used to changes. Take your time.....something you don't like now, you may end up liking after trying it a few times at intervals here n' there.

Can anyone suggest what one can do for apartments? after doing this myself.....no one can ever tell me that you can't store food in an apartment: we partitioned off part of an apartment bedroom for our food storage using blueboard and duct tape, we even made the door into the storage 'room' with blueboard and duct tape, it went from floor to ceiling and you don't need nails to put it up.....we ran a small fan 24/7 to keep the area dry.....make sure your heat source is not in the area you choose......would be best to choose a northeast bedroom if possible. We still had a bed and desk in the room, though it was crowded, it worked. Our storage area was 4' by whatever the room length was. We had 3 gorilla shelves full of storage, they are 4' wide.....one shelf on each end and one in middle, with buckets stacked in there too......you could hardly believe how much food storage was in there!! ps......my friend has those bed post things that raise up her beds, and she then puts her storage under the beds......my only concern is this will not keep the food as cold as if you can partition off an area. Is it a good idea to store food in a storage area in the basement? yes, that will work, but to control any moisture, run a fan for 24/7 in your food storage room. What is the smallest form of food storage? note: I am not acquainted with mylar bags/storing, so can only suggest what I know Here's what I'd get for one person: emergency water: 20 gallons....this is more than minimum 2 week requirement for one person 48 #10 cans of wheat (that is 8 cases)....lds cannery 6 #10 cans of oatmeal (that is 1 case)....lds cannery 12 #10 cans of white rice (that is 2 cases)....lds cannery 6 #10 cans of flour*** (that is 1 case) 6 #10 cans of dry milk (that is 1 case)....lds cannery 12 #10 cans of dry pinto, black, white beans....maybe 4 of each kind (that is 2 cases)....lds cannery 6 #10 cans of green or brown lentils** (that is 1 case) 6 #10 cans of dried whole eggs (that is 1 case) (honeyville grains) 3 #10 cans of dried chopped onions....lds cannery 5 #10 cans of dried carrots....lds cannery 4 #10 cans of potato flakes....lds cannery (2 cases for total vegetables) 6 #10 cans of dried apple slices (that is 1 case) .....lds cannery 6 #10 cans of dried strawberries or fruits (that is 1 case) (honeyville grains) 60 lb. honey or sugar some meat: canned/dried/home bottled tomatoes or sauce: cans or dried powder I'd want 2 #10 cans of cornmeal from somewhere.....I think Walton's has it 12 quarts of cooking oil (note that one quart is equal to 32 ounces....so it would take 8 bottles of vegetable oil if they were the 48 oz. size) ......oil must be rotated every year, so make sure you use it and rotate it on a consistent basis. The olive oil is an exception.....it will store 10 years, but must be refrigerated after opening or it goes rancid easily, so it will coagulate when in fridge, but comes to room temp. quickly. All oil needs to be in a very dark place, so cover it perhaps with paper sacks for extra 'darkness' even in your storage area. Also will need: about 2 lb. dry yeast, about 10 to 12 lb. salt, plus baking soda, baking powder, pepper, seasonings, herbs, flavorings, etc. to enhance the basic foods **(you must 'can' the lentils yourself by borrowing a portable dry pack canner, buying the empty #10 cans/top lid, oxy pack from them; buying your own dry lentils somewhere....will need about 30 lbs.) ***(personally, I don't use white flour, I buy unbleached, so this in my opinion would also need to be canned just like the lentils....at home by borrowing a portable dry pack canner from the lds cannery) A few ideas for use/cooking: whole wheat bread will be a staple biscuits using part whole wheat flour, made with oil unless you want to store and rotate shortening multigrain french bread french toast cracked wheat cereal home-made wheaty cream of wheat cereal whole wheat pancakes oatmeal with dried fruit oatmeal pancakes white rice cereal oven/german pancake golden wheat patties/mashed potatoes wheat dinner crepes with filling oat dinner patties/mashed potatoes fried rice beans n' rice bean soups n' whole wheat bread pinto refried bean burritos or tostados....make own flour tortillas chili n' cornbread or corn muffins lentils over rice lentil soups n' whole wheat bead lentil, veg, bean soups/whole wheat muffins potato onion soup/multigrain french bread occasional dessert: cinnamon rolls bread pudding oatmeal cookies apple dessert oven pancake carrot cake snickerdoodles apple lentil cake pudding

Store salt in a dry, warmish place. Salt and sugar are the exception to food storage. You will want 'warm, dry, dark' for these 2 items, instead of 'cool, dry, dark'.

We use dry milk from the lds cannery in baking and cooking. We don't actually drink a lot of milk except for what raw milk we get from a dairy. We drink mostly water, so we don't use the dry milk for drinking. Oh, we also make pudding from dry milk. Here's a recipe for a cream soup substitute which is mixed by shaking in a jar: Eat Wheat

I like to think of this as our 'basic 60'......it is around 60 items if not counting every spice and herb. We wanted to keep it frugal and basic, yet expand use as far as possible, which the spices/flavorings/herbs etc. will do to a great extent. We did want our 3 month supply to reflect our belief in the health we have had in using wheat, grains, legumes, veggies, fruits, meat sparingly over the years. We have had huge savings on doctor bills by striving to follow the word of wisdom. We buy only on sale, at case lots, at lds cannery, and Costco/Sam's type stores.....as well as growing a garden. Remember that dry beans and lentils (legumes) are also vegetables. We strive to never waste anything, but to use it all.....such as save liquids from cooking vegetables to go into soups, never rinse the dry beans we cook in crockpot unless using for a salad.....that is nutrients down the drain, use potato cooking water in breads and rolls. Water: we can live about 30 days without food, but only about 5 days without water wheat quick oatmeal rice and brown rice medium grind/stoneground cornmeal from Bob's Red Mill unbleached flour pasta: macaroni and spaghetti tortilla chips pinto beans black beans white beans brown or green lentils nonfat dry milk fresh raw milk from a dairy ($3.00 per gallon) mozzarella cheese cheddar cheese sour cream on sale only dry parmesan *fresh eggs from same dairy as milk ($1.75 per dozen) bacon chicken ground beef or ground turkey pepperoni tuna in water / canned salmon jimmy dean sausage if on sale other meats when/if on a good sale price butter/margarine olive oil vegetable oil honey sugar molasses raisins frozen: chopped broccoli corn peas orange juice fresh: potatoes garlic cabbage carrots celery yellow onions apples bananas other fresh veggies and fruits on sale canned mandarins canned pineapple, usually crushed, but tidbits when on sale other fruits home-bottled, such as applesauce, peaches, pears green beans diced green chilis mushroom stems and pieces crushed tomatoes, 14.5 oz. cans tomato sauce, 8 oz. cans things we bottle from our garden....it varies with what grows that year yeast baking powder baking soda vital wheat gluten vinegar sea salt pepper spices/flavorings/herbs/sauces such as soy and worcestershire *the eggs are not washed, just wiped off.....then at home, we rub each egg to completely cover, with a small dime dot of mineral oil, put them back in carton, store in a cold place for up to one year. The mineral oil seals the pores and keeps the eggs fresh. We take the caution of storing them in a cold place. OK.....now......how do we use the list?? #1: our drink is most often WATER....figure what your body needs by dividing your weight in half and that is how many ounces you need per day. Do not drink too much, nor too little......the body needs water for chemical reactions in functioning correctly. Breakfast is simple: cracked wheat whole wheat pancakes home-made cream of wheaty wheat oatmeal yummy oatmeal pancakes brown rice and raisins huevos lentils n' rice lentils n' egg hash browns oven/german pancake We have 4 oz. of orange juice, or some fruit with breakfast, and sometimes whole wheat toast (Often have side salad with a meal....lettuce grown in garden or found on sale....we make our own dressings) Some of our Main Meals (the list is longer than what is on here) : wheat patties/mashed potatoes/green beans whole wheat crepes w/creamy chicken filling meatless meatballs/buttered noodles/broccoli dinner oat patties/mashed potatoes/green peas polenta with mushroom sausage sauce home-made pepperoni pizza/our style of 3 bean salad biscuits n' gravy/steamed carrots noodles n' chicken w/vegetables italan noodle soup/french bread one pot spaghetti/green beans/wheat bread sticks baked mac n' cheese/broccoli stir fry noodles n' veggies potlicker pinto beans/cornbread burritoes/mexi-potatoes or corn with chili mayo refried beans/mexican rice/topped with cheese/surrounded with tortilla chips green chili skillet migas/refried beans/mexican rice/sour cream/salsa chili/corn muffins/cheese celery salad chicken taco soup/crushed tortilla chips on top black beans w/sausage over rice black bean soup w/cornmeal dumplings black bean n' chicken wraps/carrot raisin salad bean n' bacon soup/whole wheat bread boston baked beans/brown bread muffins capitol bean soup/home-made refrigerator crescent rolls german lentil soup (has bacon) best lentil soup with kale or cabbage lentil 'meatloaf' patties/garlic mashed potatoes/green peas italian lentil n' wheat stew lentils n' rice w/cheese (see more below) tuna or salmon patties/garlic mashed potatoes/steamed carrots tuna mac salad creamed tuna or salmon with green peas over rice tuna macaroni bake/green peas or green beans creamed tuna over whole wheat toast tuna sandwiches on whole wheat bread (home-made mayo) sloppy joes/home-made oat buns/side baked beans or leftover boston baked beans/carrots bacon or chicken fried rice/steamed carrots n' broccoli baked chicken/rice pilaf/green beans chicken stroganoff over rice/carrots or corn potato spinach frittata/whole wheat toast mushroom patties/scalloped potatoes/broccoli vegetable soup/biscuits cabbage pig stew/whole wheat bread or rolls meal ideas from lentils n' brown rice (can be flavored mexi or italian): tacos burritos tostados taco salad taco soup enchiladas (a favorite) italian soup pasta sauce w/ mushrooms added filling for whole wheat crepe manicotti Some of our Desserts: wheat mexican wedding cookies wheaty cinnamon rolls snickerdoodles oatmeal raisin cookies raisin spice bars cornmeal lemon poundcake lentil apple cake puddings boston creme pie gingerbread w/applesauce carrot cake carrot bars potato drop donuts apple pie banana cupcakes pineapple upsidedown cake crushed pineapple pie home-made brownies lentil chocolate cake Home-Made Snacks: pretzels wheat thins potato chips french fries mini biscuits or muffins cheese crackers flour tortilla chips crepe chips

If I'm having a busy or 'off' time, I'll ask my v. teachers to just visit with me on the phone. One of my v. teachers brings her child and it can get a bit hard at times. We never talk about emotional needs, which I'd prefer, as I have a lot of lonely times and would love to get some of my feelings out. But, all in all, I so appreciate their loving kindnesses and visits.

I have been a visiting teacher all my adult life, and have taken it seriously that the sisters assigned to me and my partner were women that Christ wanted us to truly become friends with.....and that has happened over these many years. Fast forward to now: for the first time ever, I asked to just visit teach 2 women that I've had on my route for a while now...... I couldn't handle a new partner, she's darling.....but our schedules were just so different. And I couldn't handle a new woman we got that I dearly admire, but was not 'reaching'....though thankfully I did end it on a good note with the promptings of the Spirit. Now I visit 2 sisters by myself, no partner right now, as per my request. I do feel bad about it, but really don't think I can handle anything else. I just barely have the will to do my regular calling.

I'm not saying I didn't learn from each of you, I read all of your posts and did learn good things from you and your insights. My feelings/response: Oh really???? Relief Society isn't a place for some social interaction and acceptance??? Well, then that must be why I am a lonely widow and neglected in my ward. And why I look for other people in R.S. that seem to be alone so I can hopefully lift their day, whether that happens for me or not. That's why my R. S. presidency counselor brushed off my need to talk briefly to her about an upcoming activity and acted like I was offending her by talking to her.?? That's why the current R. S. presidency in our ward doesn't visit the widows, every so often?? (when I was in the presidency, we visited 3 to 5 sisters per week, for whatever that's worth in this post) That is why I agree with elsbeth's comments above. Lay off this dear sister.....she came here to get comfort and she mostly got chastised. What would Christ do if she went to Him, to tell Him what she was feeling?? Would He send her on her way without emotional comfort? Maybe our society as a whole is waxing cold in love, but is that any reason we as lds women should follow the world in waxing cold in our love and compassion???

Thank you for your help. Now for the rest of the story: this question was asked, as I said, on Sunday; and the teacher answered: "we should not speculate" (which thought struck me as "what?, why would you say she's speculating?") but the woman asking stood up for herself and said she was not trying to speculate. I was sitting next to this woman and told her I thought the teacher somewhat jumped on the idea of 'speculating', so I asked the questionee to write her question out for me and I'd look it up to see what I could learn. In my searching, I didn't find what I thought was a thorough answer, although I found a lot of good info on spirit prison. So decided to ask for your help here.

Today in church a woman asked: "when satan is bound will he also be bound pertaining to those in spirit prison/how will this effect those in spirit prison? Will they also not be tempted during the millenium as those dwelling on earth while satan is bound?

My husband and I both had a time when we 'let ourselves go', gained some weight, etc. But we didn't hound each other over this and it did not dim our love for each other. Yes, it would have been nice if that hadn't happened, but it's up to the individual to take hold and make a change when they are ready......not up to the spouse to nag the other spouse. Neither of us are/were sloppy in personal hygiene. What is sad is someone only "loving" their spouse if they meet certain standards put upon them by another. Something might need to be done if a spouse truly is lacking in personal hygiene.

"Thanks Pam, but your reply simply reinforces my question - you say we chose free agency, thereby implying that we already had the ability to choose and make wise choices - so why did we need to come here if we already possessed those important abilities? I've always been taught that one of the purposes of mortality was to learn how to make wise choices but it seems as if we knew how to do that before we got here." We came to earth to experience agency/choices in an atmosphere of opposites

Put loving him above the movies chosen by him. Yes, he knows already how you feel and what standard you stick to. He knows you don't agree with his decision. Peace can be in your home, don't argue about these differences. If the sound bothers you, come up with a solution together. Of course it would be great if he wasn't choosing these kinds of movies......but contention over it most likely doubles his determination to 'make his own choice/decision'.

Too bad and very sad.......majority of Church members do NOT have even a year's supply of basic foods for survival. It just isn't their priority. In our ward, I'd say we have less than 15% (which may be a relatively high percentage) that have a year's supply of basic foods). I have watched this last year as food prices in the U.S. have rapidly risen; steadily going out of reach for many families. If these families had food storage, just think of how much money they would NOT have to put out for basic food items? For example, the sugar I bought, last year, was $11.99 per 25 lbs. It is now $15.00 for 25 lbs. By going to my food storage instead of the store, I save $3.00 on 25 lbs. of sugar. To some that may seem like a small amount, but on our food budget, that is a huge savings. If God asks us to do something, He will open the way as we obey. Oh, how I wish 100% of the people in the church had food storage, not 10%. We as a whole are very disobedient to God's will in this vital area.

My cousin lived in Florida. He's not the best lookin' guy, but has a great sense of humor and is tons of fun, full of happiness and goodness. The LDS girls there would not give him the time of day. So he moved to Rexburg Idaho to find an LDS girl at byui. The girls there would not give him the time of day. Then he met a very BEAUTIFUL, intelligent, darling girl from Mexico.....they are now married and sooo happy. She adores him.

My husband used to tell me often he was going to divorce me....yes, the control thing. It drove a huge wedge into my heart that was hard to forgive and was part of my anger (feeling helpless made me angry) Your tremendous hurt is understandable, Rimmer. So glad you are seeking the help you desire. Never give up, never give in. Just keep taking your problems and weaknesses to Christ and place them in His mighty Hands. Watch as they melt away as He holds them (this was a 'vision' I was given long ago).....it truly helps.