KristofferUmfrey

Would you really like me to answer you about gathering or are you just taking shots at me? You have a problem with "You are welcome to your opinion". What would you like me to say? I do that to show I have no animosity, and I follow it with my own opinion. So I am not exactly sure what you want. If everything I say is going to cause you anxiety, you can always find other topics to explore instead of this one. Obviously, something here lit a fire under you, because in my time here I haven't seen you post before. Not saying you haven't, just that during my stay so far this is the first time I've seen you actively involved in a topic.

I've read through some of the recipes, now you have me excited about trying some Cambodian dishes. Thanks for the topic!

So, you are going against current LDS thinking which says that the Father did NOT have physical relations with Mary to conceive Jesus? In all seriousness I am confused now... When someone like Heavenguard brings up the early quotes about the Father having physical relations with Mary to conceive Jesus LDS go apoplectic, and now when I say though it was taught, but is not the current thinking, I get disagreed with by a LDS? Seems, and this is just my reactionary thinking, you would like the ability to have it both ways and say, "Look we were right." no matter what the truth finally ends up being.

I realize what was taught, but that is not the understanding of 99% of Mormons these days.

The verses in question...(from 1990 Temple Lot Edition) "26 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, was desirous also that I might see, and hear, and know of these things, by the power of the Holy Ghost, which is the gift of God unto all those who diligently seek him, as well in times of old as in the time that he should manifest himself unto the children of men; 27 For he is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 28 And the way is prepared for all men from the foundation of the world, if it so be that they repent and come unto him; 29 For he that diligently seeketh shall find; 30 And the mysteries of God shall be unfolded unto him by the power of the Holy Ghost, as well in this time as in times of old; 31 And as well in times of old as in times to come; 32 Wherefore, the course of the Lord is one eternal round. 33 Therefore, remember, O man, for all thy doings thou shalt be brought into judgment. 34 Wherefore, if ye have sought to do wickedly in the days of your probation, then ye are found unclean before the judgment seat of God; 35 And no unclean thing can dwell with God; wherefore, ye must be cast off forever. 36 And the Holy Ghost giveth authority that I should speak these things and deny them not. 37 For it came to pass that after I had desired to know the things that my father had seen, and believing that the Lord was able to make them known unto me, 38 Wherefore, as I sat pondering in mine heart I was caught away in the Spirit of the Lord, yea, into an exceeding high mountain, which I never had before seen, and upon which I never had before set my foot. 39 And the Spirit saith unto me, Behold, what desirest thou? 40 And I saith, I desire to behold the things which my father saw. 41 And the Spirit saith unto me, Believest thou that thy father saw the tree of which he hath spoken? 42 And I said, Yea, thou knowest that I believe all the words of my father. 43 And when I had spoken these words, the Spirit cried with a loud voice, saying, Hosanna to the Lord, the most high God; for he is God over all the earth, yea, even above all. 44 And blessed art thou, Nephi, because thou believest in the Son of the most high God; wherefore, thou shalt behold the things which thou hast desired. 45 And behold, this thing shall be given unto thee for a sign, that after thou hast beheld the tree which bore the fruit which thy father tasted, thou shalt also behold a man descending out of heaven; and him shall ye witness; and after that ye shall have witnessed him, ye shall bear record that it is the Son of God. 46 And it came to pass that the Spirit saith unto me, Look! and I looked and beheld a tree; and it was like unto the tree which my father had seen; and the beauty thereof was far beyond, yea, exceeding of all beauty; and the whiteness thereof did exceed the whiteness of the driven snow. 47 And it came to pass that after that I had seen the tree, I said unto the Spirit, I behold thou hast shewn unto me the tree which is most precious above all. 48 And he saith unto me, What desirest thou? 49 And I said unto him, To know the interpretation thereof: 50 For I spake unto him as a man speaketh; for I beheld that he was in the form of a man; yet, nevertheless, I knew that it was the Spirit of the Lord: and he spake unto me as a man speaketh with another."

Sounds just like the LDS POV.

I really do need to get around to answering your question about the Holy Spirit :) I am vaguely familiar with the story. I believe she was ex'd for teaching and encouraging worshiping Heavenly Mother and praying to her. I don't do that, it is the Father we worship in the name of the Son. You make it seem as though I'm the one who brought it up and am emphasizing it, which couldn't be further from the truth. You had to go and find it and bring it up for it to be talked about. My excommunication had nothing to do with doctrinal disagreements or apostacy, I was in full agreement with the LDS church at the time and had every intention of being rebaptized, and I was prompted in another direction. If the Lord sees fit to send me back I will go back. I have no animosity or anger towards the LDS church.

I realize that many of you believe you can only repent if you return to the LDS church, and you are entitled to think that. But how about instead of attacking my character, of which you know nothing about except what I have openly admitted when I had no obligation to do so, we stick to the doctrinal differences, and perhaps we can all learn something during the course of conversation?

Firstly, I had no obligation to answer such a personal question, but was honest and answered anyway. Second, I thought the fact that I confessed to my Bishop concerning my sin would show that I did have indeed repented. But by all means you have your agency to judge. I believe God gives the priesthood man is simply the vehicle, while my priesthood was dormant during repentance, Heavenly Father can authorize me to exercise it when He so chooses. But you are correct, within the LDS church I have no authority to use my priesthood because I have not been authorized by it's leaders, just as I can't presume to make executive decisions for Microsoft as I am not the CEO. And you are welcome to your point of view. I can tell you I have felt the Spirit stronger in the last few years as I repent and try like the dickens to draw closer to the Lord and His will for my life. Again, you are welcome to your opinion. But the Lord knows my heart and where I put my trust, and I am confident He will lead me in paths of righteousness as I repent and try to understand and do his will. Again, you are welcome to your opinion. I'm glad we agree that New Jerusalem will be built and Zion will be restored in all her glory. The Lord doesn't need an earthly organization to make anything happen, He could raise up an army tomorrow to build New Jerusalem... 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. (Matt 3)

These laws give the government authority to say you have too much and seize it under the guise of spreading it around to those who didn't prepare.

I do believe the LDS church has authorized priesthood.

I was baptized a 8 into the LDS Church. I was properly excommunicated from the LDS church for something which I came forward to church authorities about (ie... I wasn't caught). Which is why I have stated I don't feel worthy for what the Lord has called me to and I can only go by faith on the promptings He has given me. I feel Thomas Monson has a testimony of Jesus and thus is a prophet as, "the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus." and he may be a revelator at times, I don't however believe he is a Seer, as I don't believe there is currently a Seer on the earth. I believe Joseph Smith was the last Seer until he had the Urim & Thummim taken from him and he gave away the Seer Stone. I believe the next Seer will be the One Mighty and Strong. I don't believe Thomas Monson is the one person with the "keys" of the priesthood.

If you don't mind I'm going to move this over to the topic in "Christian Beliefs" called "Q&A with Bro. Kristoffer", so I'm not taking up more space then needed.

So you beat me to it eh? :) Yeah, it is pretty disturbing.

Millennium-Ark: Executive Orders and Storing-Is It Lawful?

Ugh, you moved me in with the "Christians"??? I guess I'll survive Love you anyways

You are a moderator Pam, move it where you would like. I just picked a spot I thought was good when moving the discussion, but I am more then happy to be overruled and let you move it somewhere else. Deal?

I believe it has inherited doctrines, beliefs, and traditions that are false, but I do believe it is a Branch of the true church brought back to the earth in 1829, and when the One Mighty and Strong comes to gather Israel into the New Jerusalem, like all the other Branches of the Church, it will be brought into order and united under one banner in Zion.

As I stated I will not discuss the LDS Endowment so as not to cause offensive and contention. I know from experience that even when asked to discuss it by a faithful a LDS, I am the one who gets branded contentious and am seen as the source of the discussion. Tex also looks forward to my answer on that, it will be forth coming, no worries mate.

And what do you believe would have happened had they chosen not to eat of the fruit?

Gotta start somewhere. Alma was one soul when converted by Abinadi. God only knows what the future holds. I haven't forgotten about Nephi's vision.

Cooking Cambodian Food Khmer Dishes Pictures Cooking School Phnom Penh

Flavors of Cambodia - all about Khmer cooking on The Worldwide Gourmet I have a feeling the dish you are asking about is the one pictured when you click on "List of Recipes"

Cuisine of Cambodia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What about a woman? Have you killed a woman?