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Hey everyone! I need some advice here. Its about a friend of mine, let me just call him X. X and i used to talk alot, but then suddenly we just stopped and didnt speak for about a whole year. It seemed natural, just one of those things that happends when life sweeps you in different directions. I had no feeling of anything being wrong with him. A year later he writes me on MSN, telling me that about the time where we stopped speaking together everything had completely colapsed for him. That it had been long coming, and that he couldnt fight it off. I already knew that he had some mental issues, and used to speak to him about it and try to help him with his problems. He told me that back then he had not been completely honest with me about his issues, and that they were more deeply rooted than he lead on. He said that he had planned to kill a lot of people, and that he were a very angry person. Mainly angry with women, but also some men. He even told me that he had both planned to kill me and my sister. My sister stopped speaking to him completely, she doesnt want anything to do with him. Its just me that does now. He had some rage outbursts at people, and there have been people monitering him, and he went to a specialist to talk to. But when he were at a school, he met two other guys that were mentally "off" just as him. They all were angry at a few other members at the school, and so they sat down and made a list of people to punish. There were especially one girl that had made X very angry. But as the day came they had planned it, the third friend couldnt go through it and went to talk to someone at the school about this. To cut it shorter, many things happend since then and today X is being very well watched, and most of the people(meaning friends) around him have left. He goes to school, but is taken ill whenever the psychriatrist (a specialist of a sort) he speaks to says he needs to be pulled out of it, because of his mental state. He is very honest with her about his thoughts. Its like he is pulled back and forth between two extremes, either he sounds like he thrives by the evil side of him, and speaks of it in a fearful but respectful way. Or he writes almost childlike, happy and innocent. And speaks alot about the church. He is not born in the church or a member, but is interested in learning more about it. He has been for several years now, but goes back and forth. X also hears voices and sees the characters speaking to him. I am confused to what his mental diagnosis is, as it seems to be a mix of so many things that he is troubled by... He assured me after that, that he is on pills now, and that they deprive him of most emotions, and that as long as he is on those he is not any danger. Yet i hear him from time to time (especially these days), speak about wanting to kill people, and how they should not disrespect him, and how he for example at the end of this class wanted to kill the whole class. But that school year is about to end and next year he will be in a new, so he could spare their lifes. (After that he says things like, that he shouldnt kill but that he should learn to forgive.. a bit back and forth) His psychiatrist adviced him to at that point, to pull him out of the school as ill for a little while. So, heres my problem. I want out. I am never one to quit on friends, even in the worst situations, but for over a year now since he told me all of this he has written basically daily and tells me the things in his mind. His instability is so obvious, and i can tell when he is having ups and downs. Ive been told countless times to back off, he is not safe, from two friends i have told this. But how? Apparantly im almost if not the only girl he speaks to now... and well, if he really is so dangerous, he could track me down alone on my name in the matter of one search. (Denmark is small, and with my real name its very easy to find me.) Also that he speaks with the missionaries and knows a few in the church by now. And if stopped talking to him, what if that made him angry? Feel silly saying that, because i might sounds paranoid. But its just a matter of him not taking his pill, and ive noticed that he sometimes prefers not to do that. Also lately, he has become more unstable than ive seen him before.. he told me a week ago that theres a new guy he is seeing, but he doesnt speak. He just sits in the background, he doesnt know who he is, but he thinks he is much more evil than the other that speaks. Also just, well i could really write alot but just what he writes, its like he goes faster from bad to good these days. Like i get a bit scared to write the wrong thing, i cant read him as well anymore, somethings going on. On top of that hes watcing stuff like saw, and playing games of similar types. That can hardly be good for him especially!? Am i just overreacting, or do i need to away from him? Thanks alot to anyone who took the time to read it through, it became so long!!

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Some natural yoghurt with either berries, mixed nuts or muesli is good as well.

Either i make a smoothie, or i eat some rye bread, fruits, oatmeal or muesli. Really depends on what im in the mood for that morning. Of drinks - some tea or some water. Usually prefer to have some water in the fridge with some lemon and lime slices in it, yummm.

O2BNSD, where is that thread? I might have some recipes to share :)

I think that you need to ask yourself if plans and restrictions are what you need to succeed. Im sure you have heard someone say it before, but dieting usually is a temporary solution till you have reached your goal. Which in most cases after that you just let yourself go again. Thats not to say that it haven't been a succes to some people :) My opinion is that you need to make a full life change. That means something you can live with and enjoy, the rest of your life.. if planning and calcuating your intakes and such isn't working out and it feels more like a boot camp, then ask yourself if you wanna live in that boot camp the rest of your life? If not, its more likely you will fall off that path if you take it. The more greens and fruits you eat, the less you have to plan and you can be more casual about it.. however if you want more fat and sugar filled foods, thats when you have to be carefull and look at calories and such.. I lean towards fruits and greens, because it allows me to snack and have these cozy moments with food you have, without feeling guilty.. the trick is just to find things that appeal to you in taste, that are easy for you to reach out for. Just have fun and play around with recipes. If you want any easy ones, give me a tell! I have to say though, that there is a transitioning period.. where you have to get use to some different textures and tastes, but i suspect that you know that :) having tried raw foods before.. ofcourse, it does not have to be a 100% raw food, but your own consience for what is good to eat and what isn't.. most people have a fair sense of what is good to put inside your body and what is not. Eventually, your not even going to crave fatty and sugary food, its going to make you feel a bit strange and queezy. And the foods that are good for you, are going to be the ones you want to reach out for.. i think that is the long lasting change nessicary to make, to make it a lifelong habbit.. The mental transition is whats going to affect your body, so listen to the consience first =) enevidably your body will change, you control how fast that will happend. Just some thoughts ^.^

G'day its going great, how is it going with you?

Hey TStevieRob, zhaubair4 and genetatum :) and welcome!

Oh, one thing i wanted to comment more, is for people going under the knife. There are many different opinions about when its okay, and when it is not. But i do not think there's anything wrong in doing so if the change you want made is a real physical or psychological problem for you. I think there were a good thread about it in the forum once, but i don't remember in which category it was though.

What a tattoo stands for is different from person to person, it can be an evil portrait as well as an innocent or just any other sort of art. To me a tattoo can be both beautifull and ugly. How i have always thought it to be, is that we are told not to hurt our bodies with things like piercings or anything else, and well a number of things. I assume that if we aren't to do that, its not the best of choices to let someone stick needles in your body that permenately leaves ink to create a picture that will stay in your skin. Have a tattoo myself, i have also once had many piercings, and though i regret those choices, i do relate to the intrest in body art and such, but there has to be a better way. Some people do henna, they fade away though in time and aren't permenant. If thats a good or a negative thing, i guess its up to the person doing it =) somehow i think its cool, then you are able to create more than one artwork on your skin throughout your whole life. But have only tried it once though. Totally get the point your making, with what people put into their system and comparing that theres many other that might be filling their bodies with things much more hurtfull. But you hold responsibility for your own body, not anyone elses. That another person fills their body with junk, doesn't mean you should. In the end though, that choice is for you to make :)

Oh, i just realised that pulpit doesn't mean armpit. Suddenly the thread makes so much more sense.

I read these chapters this morning, and it got me wondering. 10. For it is expedient that there should be a great and last asacrifice; yea, not a bsacrifice of man, neither of beast, neither of any manner of fowl; for it shall not be a human sacrifice; but it must be an cinfinite and deternal esacrifice. 11. Now there is not any man that can sacrifice his own blood which will atone for the sins of another. Now, if a man murdereth, behold will our law, which is ajust, take the life of his brother? I say unto you, Nay. 12. But the law requireth the alife of him who hath murdered; therefore there can be nothing which is short of an infinite atonement which will suffice for the sins of the world. My opinion of the death sentence so far has been that, given a life sentence, it would be the "easy" way out, in stead of being locked in prison till the day you die. But what makes it a better thing that he/she dies before? What affect does it have in the afterlife? Also, if the sinner have not been convicted. How would he abide that law? Does it allow suicide? And then if he or she would have committed suicide, how would that make it better? And what if about the man that kills a convicted man, is he a sinner then? Even the man that convicts a man to death? It's alot of questions, but if anyone had some thoughts or answers on it i would appreciate it

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Oh... Linegirl...! Don't make me pull out my heavy artillery!

Well i couldn't let our conversation on facebook end so suddenly, could i now <3 i love you too. Im a nerd!? Lotr..... *caugh caugh*

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LINEGIRL so you finally finished your introduction. And i was worried the computer actually might have fallen asleep before ever started typing.

- ah.... theres so many....

Well he wrote: "I've decided to do a blog about this and post this to get people's thoughts"

I think i need to read that blog when it comes out

Congratulations! :) Thats great

How was that constructive? The big picture might not be all about her alone, but this thread is actually exactly about her situation, feelings and reactions towards it. Even if there might be some harsh words, its quite obvious that she is very sensitive to this situation. If you really wanted to help her by responding to her thread, wouldn't it make much more sense to use what she writes for thought, to perhaps help her out of the mindset you seem to dislike?

While i can absolutely sympatise with how you're feeling. Not nessicarily just with the urge of having children and a family, but in general when a person assumes something about you, without questioning it. It makes you wanna hit your head in a brickwall sometimes, lol. It can both be if you're not dressed in pretty clothes, if your not good at attending meetings, being socially akward, overweight, underweight, unattractive, by the age, modesty, a huge number of things. But if you notice this pattern, its not so much "the church and its ways", its just humans. Throughout the world. Its a dangerous path to go down, to look at the evil within the church. Because oh yes, it is there. Because we're human, every single one of us. But its also out there. Its not nessicary to pretend to be blind, just to decide where you let your mind wander. You won't forget the paralleles in this world, by trying to see what is good at heart in this world and the people around you. It will only benefit you. The church is a place for us all, and when you start telling yourself that you are an outsider because you don't seem to fit the sorroundings, you will slowly fade out to be so. Trust me, it's something i've had to deal with my entire life. I've been told by my sister that i'm probably the hardest person to actually truly get to know, and she's known me my whole life. Which ofcourse has led to many odd situations and assumptions about me. Because people need to label. And it's hard to label something without knowing its content. So when someone assumes and don't question their assumption, the best thing is really to pity the person that can't and won't make the effort to see farther than that. One day we will all understand, i truly believe that. Even when you feel like your blood is boiling. Yes, even when someone is being so obviously rude, don't let the anger get you. Im not saying that you should'nt set your bounderies, you certainly should. If you're hurt, express it. And if the feelings are making you mute, give yourself a break. And then approach the woman/man when you're feelings have settled and you've thought of it all. Rather that, than risking to hurt another person. It could end up in a bad spiral, and get alot worse than it should have been. Im not saying all of this because i think these are things you don't already know, you probably do. But you seem so hurt and frustrated with it all, that i though you might have lost clear sight for a moment. If not, then i apologize for my assumptions. All i can say, is that when/if i get married in the future and have children. I wouldn't want anyone to judge me for being just another family-person. It's true that assumptions and generalisations are being thrown around, but more than just from one side, its probably both sided. Even if it's not with bad intentions, it is joining a bad spiral that needs to be broken. And i do hope you will find the possibility to start a family one day. Because you seem to have such a huge love and devotion to children, which i admire. I thank you for being a good example of waiting and deciding to follow the Lords lead. Any person that is in that situation's example is more greatly noticed than they often might think. Wow, im gonna end this thing before it turns into a novel! Thus, i end this with a quote : Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving. Dale Carnegie

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