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Or Brigham Young.

Is it more of the standard novel format? I liked the storytelling device Stoker employed in Dracula of relying on journal entries and newspaper clippings to relate the events.

Maybe just the advice forum?

Questions like these remind me of Pres Kimball's Tragedy or Destiny. He lists a number of real-life events like the one above, and follows up with the terrible question* of "WHY?" In his wisdom, he did not try to answer the question for these specific trials. Instead he shared his grief and mourned with those who were mourning, and then laid out some general gospel principles for them to ponder on as they search for meaning. I don't think I can do any better than that for others. For myself, I can ponder and importune a revelatory God for answers. * "terrible questions" in the Nibley sense of "what's the purpose of life" and such

One account that comes to mind is in History of the Church. Joseph tried to remove Sidney Rigdon from the First Presidency, but the saints wouldn't have it. Joseph said something to the effect of "I have tried to be rid of him but you have thrown him upon my back". It's in vol 6, page 49 or thereabouts.

Just what we need... Zombies with guns.

The bolded sounds like a good measure. When my wife gets a calling, I typically raise my hand to sustain her on Sunday, and roll up my sleeves to sustain her on Wednesday (and it is usually the same deal for her with my callings). If he feels that this system is too taxing, then as others mentioned he can counsel with the Bishop about his concerns and solutions.

Joseph Smith taught that the Nephites had apostles among them. The Book of Mormon "tells us that our Savior made his appearance upon this continent after his resurrection; that he planted the gospel here in all its fullness, and richness, and power, and blessing; that they had apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and evangelists; the same order, the same priesthood, the same ordinances, gifts, powers, and blessings as were enjoyed on the eastern continent" (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 538). The Nephite desciples may not have held keys to direct the work for the world, but they must have held some keys in order to direct the work in the New World (considering that they will judge the Lehites the way the original apostles will judge the 12 tribes).

Jasher 4:18-19

This is a "Babe" - there's lots more to love.

So you call all of your men "Willis"?

I am shocked this thread is still going. I mean, you're not even trying to veil the discussion anymore. One more post about this political (t)issue and Rule 8 will lock this thread up like it's a Batman villain - you know, you'll forget about it for a bit and then it will spring back into lively action when the other stories are lagging.

Wouldn't you feel safer in hell if you had a Glock with you?

With all due respect, the foundational belief(s) upon which the LDS Church either stands or falls is 1)God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith and commissioned him to do a great work, the strongest evidence of which is 2)the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God. That is where our perspectives of the Atonement, the Apostasy, Salvation, Eternal Progression, the Fall, Spiritual Gifts, Revelation, the Millennium, etc stem from. It implies that anyone who relies solely on history to proof an article of faith is employing the wrong methodology. Yes, yes it would. I remind you that the Apostasy refers to a loss of authority, and the belief that said authority exists or has ever existed is a matter of faith. I think you will also find evidence of God throughout history if you look through the lens of faith. No, you asked for "evidences" and then held them up to a standard of proof. Yes, yes I am. There are some good evidences, and I think they've been shown to you, but I don't think this is a proof matter. Oh, but it is. 281,312 persons in 2011 found it a convincing argument.

That would only be a problem if you were looking for objective, incontrovertible proof. If, however, you simply want "a real Mormon response" that isn't limited "to just ... historical evidence", then you'll have to recognize that it comes from our history and our revelations. Jesus told Joseph Smith that the creeds were abominations. Nephi sees the plain and precious teaching of the gospel corrupted by schemers. When Joseph is given authority to baptize, he is not referred to any duly ordained preacher, like Sidney Rigdon for instance, instead an angel must give him what is no longer on the earth.

Ah yes, old Israel's pattern of prayer.

Why was anything written on the paper?

We don't have an instructor for my Elders quorum. Everyone is expected to arrive with the lesson read and prepared for discussion. One of the Elders is then called on to teach at the start of the hour. We've had some really excellent discussions.... And really lousy attendance. *This story is fictional and is in no way meant to represent or resemble actual quorums past or present. Very few elders were harmed in the making of this story, and they all had it coming to them.

And they always look AMAZING!!!!!

I see it through stewardship-colored lenses. If I am not to be cast out and my talent given to another, I had better double it. I came to earth and was given a body, and I'll be *day-gummed* [edited by 'Mater] if I don't return with twice that body. Or for the philosophically inclined: Plato had 5 perfect solids, and the most perfect of all these was a sphere. I am trying my utmost for perfection.

Well, I guess you just saved me from reading the last 40 pages of the HG Wells book. I agree that the Cruise film should not have been made, it was way past it's time. In defense of the film though, the two aspects you deride are true to the novel. The murder is the most uncomfortable part of the whole story. And although it's in the original, the virus undoing the alien overlords definitely needs a modern update if you're going to adapt it to film. Which is why the Couple Book Club I'm in will watch Independence Day when we've finished reading it :).

I hear to celebrate the occasion, single women over 50 got into the game for free.

He'll always be Sharkboy to me.

I haven't yet (knock on [cat's ] wood[en leg]). You'll also be pleased to know that you can store a lot of soup in a swimming pool. Won ton to be exact.

Needs modifications: 1. The Kool Aid is free 2. The Kool Stuff will cost you 3. PROFIT!!!!