Leah

I was addressing this to Alucar and interested in how HE came to his conclusions. I am sure he is capable of speaking for himself.

I stand by my post.

My husband died three days before our first anniversary. Was his illness hard? You betcha. But he was the one truly suffering, not me. And I know that going through that was part of Heavenly Father's plan for both of us. I spoke with a woman in the temple once, whose husband had Alzheimer's before his death. She told me how angry she had been at times, and feeling sorry for herself. Then she received revelation that her husband's illness was there for her to learn and grow in the ways that she needed to in order to return home to Heavenly Father. We're sent here to be tested and see what choices we make, is how I look at it. It was a privilege to take care of my husband. Was it easy? Heck, no. But oh, how I was blessed.

Unfortunately, the reality is that such people do exist.

I am sure you can provide legitimate sources to back up these claims.

Seriously? You wouldn't marry someone who has migraines? I am once again assuming that should you ever develop migraines....the woman in your life could "dump that dude". I am comforted by the fact that while you may/may have missed out on amazing women because of your attitudes, the "chicks" in question didn't miss out on a thing.

Given your attitude and phraseology, I can't say that I would disagree.

So...both of you should look exactly the same as you did in the beginning for the duration of your marriage, correct?

One of the missionaries who taught my lessons knew these. Can't say I remember them all, though.

Whoa there. You are calling me judgmental? Aren't you therefore making a judgment of me? It's not okay for others (who you wrongly perceive to be) to make a judgment, but it's okay for you to do the same? Did I post to her that she was a liar? Nope. Was I skeptical of her situation? Yep. There were some things that didn't ring right to me, but that was simply my opinion. Which I guess you think I am not allowed to have. I guess I am "less holy" than you because I don't always take people's word for what they post on an internet forum. Been around way too long to believe that everything that I read on the internet is true. I didn't see ANYONE on this forum calling her a liar on "every move". Quite the opposite, in fact. On the other hand, when I explained why I waited until after my baptism to take the sacrament, I was flat out called a liar. That was allowed to stand without any condemnation from anyone. So it is okay to openly call me a liar, but because some people on this forum had reservations about the validity of her situation, you think you get to judge and condemn them? Is it that hard to understand that it would be confusing to some that there are (supposedly) situations in which boyfriend and girlfriend are allowed to live together as long as they swear they aren't having sex? You can't see what mixed messages that might send or how it might be confusing to some? I mean, why not let every BF/GF live together if not being intimate is the only issue. Yeah...let's judge those that don't agree with us. Great approach.

The same advice applies here as it did to your other thread on the same subject....let him go. He is on his mission and that should be his focus. And it sounds like it is. While he is gone, you need to focus on yourself and (given another of your threads) your own testimony. You should be doing that anyway. It doesn't sound like you guys dated much before he left. Move forward. Work on your own growth. A lot can change in two years, including the both of you.

I am sure people will say I am judgemental or uninformed or whatever...but this just boggles my mind.

She was not physically disabled. She stated she needed reminders to take her meds and her boyfriend filled that role. There were also the statements that the boyfriend had no interest in ever marrying her. I can think of any number of ways that her needs could have been seen to without having the boyfriend live in. I think the situation posted could have given people the impression that it is a-okay to live with your boyfriend as long as you abstain from sex. (or say you abstain from sex. I'd be surprised if very many people had that kind of willpower). If that is the stance of the LDS Church, I am surprised. I know of other churches where living with the opposite sex for any reason is not acceptable.

First of all, as some here seem to think, taking a nap on the Sabbath is not a waste of time, nor is it a sin. For some, due to heavy work schedules or medical issues (such as for myself) it is a NECESSARY rest, and yes, we are allowed to do such on the Sabbath. I'm not talking about being slothful or skipping church or callings, etc. I am talking for some it is about taking care of one's body. I don't get the complaints about the Sabbath. If you want to be uber-busy on the Sabbth, then knock yourself out. I know people who are busier on the Sabbath than on any other given day...church...meetings....callings...study...scripture reading. There are a lot of things one can be busy with and still follow at least the law of the Sabbath. As for the "can'ts"....again, there are six other days in the week to do such things. Heavenly Father is asking for one day out of seven. He is asking us to follow his example. I don't think that is too much to ask. I can assure you that you will not 'lose' time by observing the Sabbath. I knew a rabbi who challenged people - people who insisted they didn't have time to observe the Sabbath - to do so. They found that they did indeed manage to do everything they needed to. If people don't want to observe the Sabbath or follow the teachings of the Church about it, then don't. That's your agency to do so. But I know you will miss out on some amazing blessings.

No, spoken like someone who has a brain and understands there are a number of options for accomodating this worker, and the store picked about the stupidest option anyone could come up with.

According to the Rambam, rabbis were NOT required to be married. It was highly encouraged, but NOT required. Therefore, it does not automatically follow that Jesus was married simply because he was referred to by some as 'rabbi'. That is not proof one way or the other of His marital status.

I'll be curious to delve into this when I have time to do some research. When my late husband had his leg amputated, we were told that a single amputee uses 30% more energy to walk with a prosthesis than with a 'real' leg. This rises to 80% for a double amputee. I'll be curious to read articles about how a prosthesis overcomes this deficit enough to be considered an advantage. Then there is the whole balance issues with a prosthesis. It looks so easy once someone has mastered it, but I saw the truly hard work that one must put in to get to that point. Evn then, it takes a significant amount of more energy.

Gee...I don't know...I think when the head mod suggests that you lighten up, it might be a good idea to take that advice seriously. "Just an opinion".

Much better idea than those suggested which would cause someone else to work on the Sabbath, which goes against Church teachings. I am not sure how encouraging others to go against Church teachings helps them to feel the spirit of the Sabbath better. As an Orthodox Jew, I mastered the art of preparing food ahead of time, as cooking wasn't allowed on the Sabbath (and neither was causing someone else to work on the Sabbath). We really can take one day a week off from the "world" and still accomplish all we need to in the other six days.

Why does the Sabbath need to be about 'doing? Can't it just be about being? The Sabbath is supposed to be a day of rest. Is it not possible for you to slow down and not focus on 'doing'? For myself, the Sabbath goes by too quickly, and I have never worried about keeping myself occupied. I realize I was used to an Orthodox Jewish Sabbath, but still......I don't think of the Sabbath as a day to worry about keeping busy. It's a relief to not have to cram every minute with doing. I don't know which time your ward is currently meeting, but right now ours meets at 9:00. (When I joined, it was the 1:00 time. I appreciated the opportunity to sleep in!). That's three hours minimum. Sometimes I have a meeting with the bishop or other little activities after church. Then it's a little bit of lunch. Scripture and other reading. It's a good time to write a letter to the missionaries. A Sabbath nap is an absolute must for me. I find that by the time I do even this much, the day is over in a flash. I love the Sabbath. I get to let go of doing and focus on being. How could I forget this?....I love to go sit on the temple grounds on the Sabbath. There is rarely anyone there other than an occasional tour conducted by those volunteering at the visitor's center. I enjoy the peace and the quiet and talking to Heavenly Father.

I see no evidence that Vort was looking for an argument. He was simply explaining to you the LDS concept of salvation. The fact that you r don't grasp the concept does not make it an 'argument'.

If you would not want to be seen in public with her, then you cannot possibly love and cherish her. That is not how you feel about, nor how you treat, someone you love.

I don't know. You tell me. Share your stats..your source of information.

Really? And how do you know this?

Have you asked for a priesthood blessing? I know a woman who returned to the church after decades away. She was a smoker. Received a priesthood blessing and never smoked another cigarette. No withdrawal, either.