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  1. Welcome, My wife and I joined the church when in our mid 40s... back in 2005. Our 2 sons joined as well (they were 10 & 13 at the time). You'll definitely find lots of good info here. I mostly read and learn from others, when it comes to posting on many of the topics... I tend to swim in the shallow end of the pool. 🙂
  2. Mr. Shorty, Back when my wife and I were in our early thirties (and about 10 years before the missionaries found us), my wife was diagnosed with a brain tumor. It was found to be non-cancerous (sorry I don't recall the proper medical terminology, I'm a truck driver and can't remember most medical terms a day later... so it's especially unlikely I'll remember them 27 years later). Anyhow. the tumor was on her pituitary gland, and she (with my asked for advice) had to decide whether to have it surgically removed, with a roughly 50/50 chance the optic nerve would accidentally be touched, rendering her permanently blind in both eyes... or choose a medical alternative, a medication that she would stay on for the rest of her life, and which would supposedly keep the tumor from growing further, but which also carried the risk that at anytime in the future, the tumor could still become cancerous. With our limited understanding of miracles (although not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we did consider ourselves Christian), we asked for guidance and for a miracle from God, and with a great deal of faith (which we sorely lacked), we received both. We opted for surgery and today my wife is healthy (and has her vision). I know we are not to be commanded in all things, but we can certainly ask for advice and direction, and it will be lovingly shared. As a convert from in my 40s, I often feel I'm walking a few steps behind everyone else, in knowledge, understanding, and even sometimes my ability to have faith. The Lord has proven to me time and again, that even with just a kernel of faith, He can perform mighty miracles.
  3. Chaco Canyon... north western New Mexico.
  4. My final point, the original question is cool and thought provoking. But in the end, we don't need to understand the how or why of everyone being covered by the Atonement. They just are. God's got it covered, regardless of whether we can make heads or tails of it. 🙂
  5. I don't think I'm out on a limb... I'm not presuming to know something that others don't, but you're presuming that since most every time God interacts with us mortals, He is flesh and blood... at least once He was a burning bush. I'm curious why you think our "all" powerful, "all" knowing God, must limit himself to flesh and blood? But hey, lets say that you are correct and there are things that God can not do (like become a form of energy... or light, simply by willing it to be so), and just His mind is everywhere at once (while His flesh and blood body stays put somewhere)... it doesn't change my point... He exists outside of time... He can literally be anywhere and at anytime (again... that's our perspective of time... not His). At this point (in our time-line) the Atonement "has" happened, and it is available to all... equally.
  6. I agree that God has a body. I'm guessing you might agree that God's knowledge far surpasses ours (meaning humans). A lot has been written and theorized, comparing God's state of being to the nature of light... As something approaches the speed of light, time (and even a specific location) cease to exist (at least as we understand it). My point is that when speaking of "when" the Atonement happened, the "when" of it's occurrence, only applies to humans (and only while we are experiencing the mortal part of our existence). Time (as we perceive it) isn't relevant for God. As I mentioned, a lot has been said (written) about the nature of God and light, and our ability to perceive (or understand) it. Parley P. Pratt, David O. McKay, Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Robert D. Hales, Doctrine and Covenants, Daniel K. Judd (lesser known, but the Professor of Ancient Scripture at BYU), and others have had meaningful things to say about "Light". Perhaps I took a bit of "creative license" when referring to light as energy (but I believe it is, in a manner of speaking, a definite form of energy). Light has even been referred to as, "... the law by which all things are governed" (Doctrine and Covenants 88:13). I apologize if I've upset the apple cart. I didn't really intend to be drawn into this discussion. I only meant to point out that in my mind... the "when" of something happening is less important then the fact that it "did" happen. God, (again... in my mind) is more interested in my repenting for a given sin, then when I repented. I believe the same can be said for the Atonement. That it happened, is likely much more important then when it happened. From God's perspective, there is no "how were things before", because right now... the Atonement "is", and it applies to everyone.
  7. Short answer... God is Light, pure energy. He exists outside of time (as we know it). The Atonement only happened at a specific time in history, from our perspective. Not so for God.
  8. Neuro, I guess I misspoke myself... perhaps I should've said, "in my lifetime"... and perhaps I should've also been more specific about confiscation of "guns" specifically, as opposed to other goods. But much of my silver and gold is in the form of numismatic coins, meaning actual currency (supposedly, unlike bullion rounds and bars, not eligible for confiscation). And they can call it whatever they want, and it really doesn't matter what form I have it in... I wish them luck in trying to take it from me by force... even if the beat me, they'll never find it. Ironhold... I agree. And by the way, I like the idea of idiot liberal politicians assuming that the military will be on their side, like assuming that law enforcement will as well. I honestly don't think they realize how far out on a very small branch they are (when making that assumption). And I tend to think their "nebulous" wording is intentional, (in comparing the weaponry available to the average citizen, to that which is available to the military) it adds the implication that anyone who is pro-gun, will at some point rise up to over throw our government. Again... what idiots. In reality, it's the pro-gun crowd who would like to see our government saved (from the bastardisation it is currently under going).
  9. That word "confiscate'... when citizens (of any country) allow "that" to happen, regardless of the "reason" that is offered for doing so... then they have lost. And further more, they have lost something which can never be recovered. If confiscation comes to America (but I doubt it can/will), then it will fail, or I'll end up dead. Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty, or give me death". Yes... that's my final answer.
  10. We actually sponsored a family to immigrate to the US from Australia, about 9 years ago. The Dad got his US citizenship about 1.5 years ago (in the midst of covid, so no one was allowed to attend the ceremony, which was pretty crappy). Anyway, they left Aussie land due to the strict gun laws there... to paraphrase his words... in Australia, it's illegal to defend your family. Well that's a huge bummer. Other than their gun laws, Australia seems to be a pretty great place. It's very odd to me how many nations have allowed their citizen's gun rights to be so grossly abridged. Or perhaps I should say, it's surprising how many "citizens" in other nations, have allowed their gun rights to be abridged. Although there seems to be a lot of people who worry about that happening in the US, I don't see that as a legitimate or serious concern, as there are a LOT of Americans who would fight to prevent that from happening (most likely meaning a civil war). Just my thoughts here, but if someone isn't willing to stand up and fight for a right... they shouldn't be all that surprised when someone else comes along and takes that right away from them. I'm not saying that's fair, but that's just the way it is in the world. Often, the right thing to do, isn't the easy thing to do. But if you allow someone to abridge your gun rights... then know, that you've given them the ability to abridge any other right you had... at this point, you can say goodbye to freedom.
  11. Vort and Mirkwood... you are both jerks... I only know that cause it takes one to know one.
  12. He can still be an idiot... he'll just be an idiot somewhere else.
  13. "I somehow expected (the park) to be more impressive" Let's be honest, nothing in, or about Los Angeles is impressive.
  14. Wow... thanks for all the comments. I was mildly interested in watching this show, but not at all interested now... sounds like this Krakauer, is a total Krack pot. And by the way, I'm thinking of a lot of different words to describe him, but this site doesn't allow them.
  15. Hey Traveler, Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to type out such insightful responses to each of my comments. Very thorough and very well thought out. I can find no disagreement with anything you've said, and you've given me a better perspective with which to view Muslims, as a whole. As I said, I don't disagree with anything you've said, but I would like to add a couple of comments in regards to the first topic (beheadings). I certainly agree that historically, Christians have been quite brutal to their non-believer neighbors. But for the most part, I'd like to think (in these "modern" times), that's all behind us now... but that's not so much the case in regards to radical Muslims. Also (and this is just a bunch of numbers... math), statistics from 2018 show there to be approximately 1.2 billion Muslims (worldwide), with roughly (according to US intelligence agencies) 15% to 25% of Muslims being "radicalized". On the low end, that means 180 million are radical. I only point this out because it indicates the number of radical Muslims (worldwide) is significantly greater than half the overall population of the entire United States... or another way of looking at it is, there are 10 times as many radical Muslims, as there are members of our Church. In no way does this invalidate anything you said, but I would suggest it is perhaps some cause for alarm. Thanks again.