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I had heard about the way BY was represent (as a monogamist - like he was in the Teachings of the Presidents RS and Priesthood manual) on this message board several years ago and so the next time I was in SLC I took the tour. As they showed the house, they talked about BY's wife (singular) and his children (few), where they played, what they were like, how they entertained, etc. NO, read ZERO mention was made of more kids and more wives until finally I asked and then a stilted and clumsy answer was given. In this case I wouldn't go so far as to say you get what you deserve but when you officially sanction and promote 1. illegal behavior, and 2. behavior that the rest of society finds morally reprehensible, what else should you expect. Sure, you can clean up your own act but you can't erase your past and you can't control the beast once you've unleashed it. I come from a polygamist family - a good Mormon polygamist family doing their Mormon duty and so have heard and seen first hand how sad and damaging polygamous lifestyles, even within the Church boundaries can be. Orthodox Judaism has daily prayers for the restoration of the Temple and the resumption of its rituals, including sacrifice. The Orthodox Yom Kippur service as a long recollection of the Temple service, mourns it's loss and longs for its restoration.

Except for in the Book of Mormon, that is. Speak for yourself. I think killing animals for God is nuts. I always recommend against it.

Here's the advice that changed my life: "True doctrine, understood, changes attitudes and behavior. The study of the doctrines of the gospel will improve behavior quicker than a study of behavior will improve behavior. Preoccupation with unworthy behavior can lead to unworthy behavior." (Boyd Packer) Get yourself out of the hideous guilt routine. I found it completely unhelpful. Instead I just behaved how I behaved and stopped worrying about it. I mis-remembered the quote and started studying LDS and Christian history instead of doctrine but it all did the same thing for me. Eventually my behavior improved - not because I willed it, but because my appreciation of Church history helped me to become a better balanced person and my desires naturally evolved into a healthier equilibrium.

People (who distance themselves)? Like who? The Church. Polygamy is an embarrassment to the Church. The Church itself actively takes steps to distance itself from it. For example, take a tour of the Beehive House. Brigham Young is portrayed as the good husband and father of a one wife nuclear family. Ask about polygamy and the Lion House next door and uncomfortable silence followed by uninformative fumbling ensue. Remember the SLC Olympics? The Church had commercials on TV with Steve Young happily declaring - and hey, we don't practice polygamy anymore. Besides which, you logic is unhelpful. People - at least some- distance themselves from polygamy because they question that it ever was ordained from on high, not because they can't follow your reasoning.

I suspect that you don't really believe that. For example, do you believe that you will inherit God's fatherhood? That you will become the father of Christ?

Yes = perhaps, but only if you believe that multiple prophets (Presidents) and multiple apostles are not official.

Why are those the only choices? Why can't God be one but the Father, Son and Holy Ghost be separate ousias?

It's like this: You can buy Apple, or you can wait 18 months for someone to copy them and sell cheap copies. Can revolutionizes. Others struggle to copy. Apple revolutionized: Personal Computers Graphical User Interfaces The Music Industry Music Players Phones Tablets. Looks like they are doing it again with Artificial Intelligence What innovative revolutions has Microsoft, Dell, HP, Acer, Levono, whoever, started? It's not just the revolutions, it so much more. Apple brought the mouse to the mouses. It is the most successful retailer in history. It's doing away with cash registers It got rid of the floppy disk I think Apple products are now the single biggest picture taking devices in the world. Light Peak (while everyone else is wasting their time on USB 3) Whose model of the cloud do you think will prevail - Google's piece meal clumsy approach or Apple's elegant integrated model? It may revolutionize the TV next . Apple leads while other's copy and follow.

Compared to the world's top phones. My post was about the iPhone 4 from a year ago and the comparisons were all over the place. Here's one: iPhone 4 camera beats the smartphone competition | Phones | iOS Central | Macworld Today, of course, the iPhone 4S camera is even better. Yeo - that's how the wintel world thinks - it's all about specs for them. I'm sorry you are unhappy with a phone that is now 4 generations old (3G, 3GS, 4, 4G). On the other hand, Apple leads ALL phones for customer satisfaction. Yes, PC vendors have copied Apple designs and now other knock-off of their iMac or Mac mini styles. Having an IT background isn't all that impressive these days. It's the IT departments of the corporate world that are getting dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age by the corporate users that want their Apple products on the network. Okay - you have a point. Find any other comparable, fully integrated suite for music, movies and photos for $49

Huh? I don't get it. That must have been way, way before my time Pam.

Are magazines just broken iPads? 1-year-old thinks a magazine is a broken iPad | Technically Incorrect - CNET News The world changes.... you gotta keep up.

There's no checklist, there's no steps. It's about being self-centered and selfish... or not. The world doesn't revolve around you and stay awake at nights worrying about whether it has offended you. If you love your fellowman as much as you love yourself, you'll start to get it.

Or, alternatively, in a right world, uninformed sophists wouldn't say nutty things.

1. How's your Thunderbolt technology working out for you on your PC? 2. It's ain't the hardware friend. That's PC mentality. I don't use Adobe. I use my free iPhoto for fast stuff and Pixelmator of big stuff, not to mention the free open source stuff that's available.

Buy yourself a new copy of the operating system you already paid for and then go to the time and trouble to install it yourself on top of what you already bought and paid for to restore the computer to the condition it should have been in when you bought it. Apple folks just don't think like that. ... yeah, not something that Apple guys worry about. .... uh, not interested. I have a Mac. I suppose that it has some value but I certainly don't do it monthly. Maybe a couple times a year... but I own a Mac.

Of course you saying it is unlikely doesn't much relate to whether or not it really is unlikely... you not knowing anything about what I have or what I paid... but here's a link that makes the point: Are Macs More Expensive? Let’s Do the Math Once and For All But your point makes clear the difference between a PC user and a Mac user. For the wintel guy, it's a matter of specs. For Mac guys, it all about the experience. For example, when iPhones came out with their 5meg camera, other companies and consumers made a big deal that you could get a 6 or 7 megapixel camera on some other phone, like specs were what mattered. Tests, however, showed that iPhones produced the highest quality pictures at the time - optics and processing being crucial to the equation. I grant that most computer and phone and tablet company do their best to copy Apple designs but I yet to see anything that matches the elegance of an iMac. I admit I haven't kept up on all the software in the wintel world but can you think of a fully integrated suite of products on par with iLife and iTunes, (movies, music, photos, DVD, and Garageband) that come free with the computer?

I don't know everything but I do know there is going to be a whole lot less of Lady Gaga and a whole lot more of Steely Dan.

One day I too hope to grow to be like me. When faced with a decision or quandary, I often think, if I were me, how would I respond. It undoubtedly helps me make the best possible choice.

Well... they can... but I advise against it. This one time, this guy I knew at band camp read some non-Mormon literature, CS Lewis I think, and nothing happened right away, but the next day, he suddenly exploded into flames and died a horrible fiery death. That's not to say that everyone who read non-LDS literature self-immolates automatically. Another guy I knew once read some St. Augustine, City of God and now he is doing hard time in the Big House in Sing Sing. Lesson learned, I guess.

Supposedly said - hear say - by a third party who was making a point. Regardless, people say lots of things to avoid telling the real stories to others only tangentially related to them. A little thought, however, avoids such unhelpful simplification.

What meaningless blather. Can one truly believe that if one took the time and effort to really get to know the home teachee in question, come to grips with his hopes, fears, experience and thought processes and really understand when he was going though, that one would conclude that he has become inactive because: 1. the Stake Presidency talked to much about tithing and 2 he doesn't understand Alma 32? Nonsense. That's obviously nothing but a clumsy technique to marginalize someone else and their situation while puffing up one's self and one's perspective, ie, I'm smart, or faithful, honest, thrifty, true or brave and if only you were smart, faithful, honest, thrifty, true and brave like me, then you would get it, like I get it. In the real world, such people - and I have no more idea what's in the guy's heart than you do - have much more complex and deep seated reasons behind their behavior - usually it's a matter that the dogma that they have been taught doesn't hold up in light of what they experience - their religion doesn't explain their experience.

And that's the kind of extreme exaggeration (or pick another adjective to describe someone who deliberately says something untrue), that PC drones have to resort to in a vain attempt to make a point. My iMac cost was comparable in price to what a similarly equipped wintel commodity would have been at the time - while total cost of ownership is lower... but it's a lousy comparison because, there were no PCs that had comparable aesthetics, you can't buy a wintel box that runs OS X or any of the Mac specific programs and you can't buy a Mac that is loaded with bloatware - nor, if you buy, say a Dell, can you get back the hours of your life you'll spend trying to rid yourself of it, and Apple, like it does every year has the highest customer satisfaction and the best rated customer service.

And yet, after all that, you still have Windows.

Tis the stuff that dreams are made of. 9 years ago we got our first Mac. Now we have 7, including the very first one that still works great (and two iPads, 6 iPhones and a bunch of iPods). We threw out our last Windows PC 3 years ago - it was only a few years old but worthless. I got my latest just last year so I don't need one right now but otherwise I'd get the exact same dream machine you are looking at with less memory however. 16 is a lot. Plus, the new Macs all have Thunderbolt - the PC herd will have to wait till next year to join the 21st century. Your husband is a fortunate man.

Wintel machines are commodities. Macs are highly differentiated. There's a reason Apple is the most successful company on earth... and it's not because they sell window boxes.