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ooo, Elphaba I love Jewel, all her lyrics are so beautiful! There is a great singer/songwriter in aussie called Missy Higgins, she has some great lyrics. At the moment i love 'Where I stood' here are the lyrics, she sings them amazingly, so find a version on itunes, or limewire or something! I don't know what I've done Or if I like what I've begun But something told me to run And honey you know me it's all or none There were sounds in my head LIttle voices whispering That I should go and this should end Oh and I found myself listening 'Cos I dont know who I am, who I am without you All I know is that I should And I don't know if I could stand another hand upon you All I know is that I should 'Cos she will love you more than I could She who dares to stand where I stood See I thought love was black and white That it was wrong or it was right But you ain't leaving without a fight And I think I am just as torn inside 'Cos I dont know who I am, who I am without you All I know is that I should And I don't know if I could stand another hand upon you All I know is that I should 'Cos she will love you more than I could She who dares to stand where I stood And I won't be far from where you are if ever you should call You meant more to me than anyone I ever loved at all But you taught me how to trust myself and so I say to you This is what I have to do 'Cos I dont know who I am, who I am without you All I know is that I should And I don't know if I could stand another hand upon you All I know is that I should 'Cos she will love you more than I could She who dares to stand where I stood Oh, she who dares to stand where I stood

oh poor jason... he ridicules others beliefs, calls them stupid and then wonders why on earth 'people dont like me'

Last year i was suicidal myself, and got to apoint where i was hospitalised, (basically to keep myself safe) My problem with the issue of suicide is that saying members have 'God will never give you more than you can handle" I hate that saying. If that were true, noone would kill themselves, right? I asked this question to my LDS Psychologist, and he told me that there are two types of suicides that he has seen. Those who know and understand what they are doing, and those who do not. Those who do know will be judged for that. Those who do not, will be looked after this life. When we are resurrected, mental and physical ill ness will afflict us no more (theres a comforting thought for me - i wont always be depressed) and Jesus Christ will judge us by what we were dealing with at that time. M Russell Ballard did a great talk on the subject of suicide that my psycholost recommended i read. http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menu..._&hideNav=1 The church does not know what happens to those who commit suicide, because each case is individual. The important thing to know is that Jesus Christ knows all the details, and will judge us mercifully. To comment more on the topic, i think you should try not to feel too guilty, as i am sure there were many other factors contributing to the decision. Its hard. Guilt is a difficult emotion to remove, i havent quite succeeded with that myself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_fish These fish can breathe air! One of my favourite sea animals are the cuttlefish. They are very beautiful and intelligent animals. They change colours to communicate, they are related to squids and octopus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuttlefish Also, have you ever heard of mermaids purses? They are actually shark eggs. (OK Its not an animal, but i think they look cool!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mermaid%27s_purse

Faith is not logical jason I know because i am struggling with it at the moment. I know most of what the church teaches is illogical, but does that make it false. No. Does that mean you can go about using you excuses of 'light of reason?" Reason is not always light. (i am referring to light being the light of christ and intelligence, how the world itself was created, how good men and women lead great lives without the gospel/dogma in their lives) While reason is a type of thought, logic is a field of study which categorizes ways of justifying conclusions that are in accordance with reason.

If you are what you say and are a 'universalist' why do you care so much what Mormons believe. Yes, i know, you were one once... but that gives you no right to call our belifs 'willful stupidity' I could say the same thing to you about being a Universalist. If Hitler and Stalin and every murderer and sinner, rapist, torturer, peodophile who ever took real pleasure out of harming others soul and mind and body, ended up the same 'celestial kingdom' of which you speak. It would cease to be celestial. It would just like where we are now, except forever, and no escape. It would be hell. All the people who lived good lives would have nothing to show of it. You are no better than those who hammer on about the darwinist theory that we have no pourpose, when we die it is the end, where were we before this life in your eyes Jason? Why are we here if we all end up in the same place. Oh, and im so sorry my posts dont number in the thousands, i guess that discredits my beliefs and opinions and that im less of a person than you. Just because im 'new' doesnt mean you are better than me.

oh, save us enlighten us dear jason who knows all! save us from our brainwashing and testimonies and our beliefs and trusts. Yes i am being supremely sarcastic.

Ok Jason so 'Rhetorically' speaking do you take any joy out of casting doubt into church members minds? i am not only referring to this topic, but many others also. Just because you made the decision to leave does not give you the right to belittle others testimonies. because That chaps MY hide

Baby is doing better now im not trying to force him into staying in his cot when he doesnt want to. I am getting more sleep because i bring him into bed with me and we cuddle and we fall asleep quicker than if i were trying to put him back all the time. I want the church to be true... I am taking a very expensive trip to Utah and California from Australia for pretty much the whole of October, so i can go to general conference (I am also going to a Time Out for Women conference in Sacramento.) Hopefully i will have my smoking addiction under control, and be repenting enough to hold a temple recommend and go do a live session at the Salt Lake Temple. I dont know though... i am running out of time and still struggling with it. Sorry for the hijacking of the topic... So, why do the rest of you guys come to this forum?

Thank you all so much for your kind responses. It is hard work, buut i am getting there. I have stopped the 'controlled crying' as it is simply not working for me. All the midwives and nurses here in australia really push the women here to get the baby into a routine, but my baby doesnt seem to have one. When he is hungry, i feed him. When he is dirty, i change him. When he is tired i hold and rock him. When he is happy, i play with him. I let him determine what we do, and when. I go to a PostNatal depression group and learnt about a great thing this week. Its called the circle of security. I saw it and recognised it in my relationship with my bub. I recognised it my relationship to my own parents. It has helped me to play better with my baby too. I am not going to do the controlled crying anymore. http://www.circleofsecurity.org/docs/circl...%20-%203-05.pdf

I see this quote talking about the inner spark of divinity that lies within each of us, if we will connect to it.

i feel most at home... in the celestial room at the temple

it took me a reread to understand what it meant. then i laughed so loud i scared the baby. how on earth did you find this?

I prefer to play board games. Apples to Apples and Balderdash are two of my favourites. I dont really play internet games, my mum is addicted to them, and i think its a time waster. Thats actually a bit hypocritical for me to say... i love playing Kingdom Hearts on the PS2 at the mo' and that is a 'waste of time' as well. Oh, well :)

since when is it so surprising? He is a politian I dont trust polititions at all.

I dont know how many of you know this, but australia is in the middle of quite a severe drought. Our dams are only at 20% capacity (and thats after a week of rain we got out of the blue last week - before that the dam levels were 18%) Its been so bad, the state government has put these level 5 restrictions in place. Its called the Target 140 Plan. (140 litres per person per day) http://www.qwc.qld.gov.au/

I came because i am depressed and struggling a little with socialising. I am struggling with feeling the spirit and am trying to do what i always do when i dont know something. Read up about it. Thats just my personality i think. I want the church to be true. I hope it is true. I just dont know yet.

When i graduated from High school my plans for University fell through. I worked casually for a while and paid tithing first (10%) and my parents charged me (15%) rent 50% i saved for my course in Business Administration and the rest i had to spend. When i was doing my course i didnt have to pay rent because i wasnt earning any money. After my course i got a traineeship as a receptionist and tithed, saved and payed rent again with the same percentages, although this time the amounts were more, because i was working fulltime and earning more. Eventually i saved up enough to buy my own car (outright with no debt - i was so proud of myself!) Paying every time i was paid 10% tithing, 15% Rent 50% Saving and 25% Spending (which was broken down to phone credit, fuel, entertainment etc...) taught me how to budget and be smart in how i organised my money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-hero http://www.flowerstorm.net/disa/Gallery/anti-explain.html Definition of Anti-hero. In fiction, an anti-hero is a protagonist who lacks traditional heroic qualities, or even one possessing traits antithetical to the traditional hero. An anti-hero will typically perform acts which might be deemed "heroic" (at least in scale and daring), but by using methods, manners, or intentions that may not be so--they could even be considered underhanded or deceitful. The word itself is a fairly recent invention, and its primary meaning has changed throughout the years. The 1940 edition of Merriam-Webster New International Dictionary listed the word but did not give a definition. Later sources would call the anti-hero a persona characterized by a lack of "traditional" heroic qualities. I would have to say that Severus Snape is my favourite anti-hero.

We're happy little vegemites As happy as can be we always eat our vegemite for breakfast lunch and tea our mummies say were growing stronger every single week because we LOVE our vegemite! we all ADORE our vegemite! It puts a rose on every cheek!!! That a jingle that almost every aussie knows off by heart! :) ps. Sorry for posting twice last time, i have no idea how that happened!

http://oddanimals.com/hybridanimals.html At this link you will find photos of a few diferent hybrids. Wolphin (Whale and Dolphin) Liger (male Lion and female Tiger) Tigon (male Tiger and female lion) Geep (Goat and Sheep) Toast of Batswana (no idea) and yes, even featherless chickens. http://oddanimals.com/deformedanimals.html sorry, another page on the smae site, i couldnt resist. There are deformed animals. Fascinating and tragic, as most deformed animals do not live very long. A little grotesque as well... and sad.

In australia we sing these songs alot. I dont know if its a nursery rhyme, (it doesnt rhyme) but its pretty easy to tell why we find it importnat. It is the Aussie dream. Give me a home among the gum trees With lots of plum trees A sheep or two And a kangaroo A clothesline out the back Verandah out the front And an old rocking chair You'll see me in the kitchen Cooking up a roast Vegemite on toast Just you and me And a cup of tea And when my friends will ask me The place that I adore I'll tell you right away. Give me a home among the gum trees With lots of plum trees A sheep or two And a kangaroo A clothesline out the back Verandah out the front And an old rocking chair We also have waltzing matilda. I remember learning as a kid what all the terms meant. http://www.imagesaustralia.com/waltzingmatilda.htm

In australia we sing these songs alot. I dont know if its a nursery rhyme, (it doesnt rhyme) but its pretty easy to tell why we find it importnat. It is the Aussie dream. Give me a home among the gum trees With lots of plum trees A sheep or two And a kangaroo A clothesline out the back Verandah out the front And an old rocking chair You'll see me in the kitchen Cooking up a roast Vegemite on toast Just you and me And a cup of tea And when my friends will ask me The place that I adore I'll tell you right away. Give me a home among the gum trees With lots of plum trees A sheep or two And a kangaroo A clothesline out the back Verandah out the front And an old rocking chair We also have waltzing matilda. I remember learning as a kid what all the terms meant. http://www.imagesaustralia.com/waltzingmatilda.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme A baby is called a 'puggle!' Ecidnas and platypus' are monotremes, a specialised and very individual family of animals that are the only mammals that lay eggs. Platypus are very elusive and shy, so its not likely that anyone will get hurt by the males spurs unless they hare handling them wrong. Echidna males also have the posonous spur (like they need it with those spikes?) My favourite weird animal is the starnosed mole. Follow the link for the picture. You will not believe your eyes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Nosed_Mole "It appears the nasal star and dentition of this species are primarily adapted to exploit extremely small prey items. A report in the journal Nature gives this animal the title of fastest-eating mammal, taking only 120 milliseconds to identify and consume individual food items. Its brain decides in the ultra short time of 8 ms if a prey is comestible or not." - wikipedia The guiness book of world record has a great close up shot in the 2006 book, if anyone has one and wants to see a close up of the star-nose!

A little background on my situation: I am a stepmother to 3 children, 12 and 10 yr old girls and 8 year old boy because of the depression. It was so dehabilitating at one time that i couldnt deal with thee stepkids and day to day care of myself let alone the baby. My husband couldnt get time off work to help, so i went and started living with my Mum who quit her job to help me (yes i am blessed with a great mum) So i have been staying with my mum and recovering bit by bit, but am a bit nervous about returning back to the home environment. anyway, i am seeing a Psychiatrist to monitor my meds. I am seeing a church psychologist from LDS Family Services, (he is excellent) and i am also going to a PND Group once a week. And living with my mum, so i have plenty of support in place. I think the rocking chair is a good idea.