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enough prunes and your bodywill get rid of em I am sure lol-Charley

ou scored as a Classical Liberal You are a classical liberal. You are sceptical about much of the historicity of the Bible, and the most important thing Jesus has done is to set us a good moral example that we are to follow. Doctrines like the trinity and the incarnation are speculative and not really important, and in the face of science and philosophy the surest way we can be certain about God is by our inner awareness of him. Discipleship is expressed by good moral behaviour, but inward religious feeling is most important. Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 86% Classical Liberal 86% Emergent/Postmodern 86% Modern Liberal 68% Roman Catholic 64% Charismatic/Pentecostal 43% Neo orthodox 39% Reformed Evangelical 21% Fundamentalist 14%

good to meet you congratulations/ I am Charley Ihave been baptised 16 years now, married with 2 kids and live in Scotland. -Charley

here is another thought maybe it doesn't matter if the Book of Mormon or any other scipture is 100% historically accurate, Heavenly Father wants us to know the truths in it - the historical accuracy is almost unimportant. -Charley

hi What a beautiful name. Where are you from originally? I am English but live in Scotland - I am also an attachment parent I was inspired by the Contiuum Concept and a book called Three in a Bed when I was about 15 and try to bring my children up using the principles. I have a 4 year old Elana/Ellie who is fun and 1 year old Gabriel/Gabey - we cosleep, I use slings instead of a pram, I aM breastfeeding my son at 1 year hope to go until 2 years at least. We use cloth nappies/diapers. And I hope to home educate but I know that you can't do that in Germany. Right now we have 2 German Elders in our branch and they are teaching my daughter German. -Charley

I would actually say He is the prayer in your heart or to pray constantly - for us using the Holy Ghost or having him use you is different to the Gift of the Holy Ghost. He is almost my favourite of most familiar member of the Godhead as he is my connection with God. We have an old lady in our branch who is terrified of baptism and really too old and ill to go through it she lives the gospel as best she can and has made plans for one of the young sisters to do her baptism vicariously. -Charley

I selected 7 or under despite it being 15 when I met the missionaries and got baptised. I have personally had religious experiences all my life I think I was 5 and walking home from school when I first remember being teased for talking to myself I know at that point I was praying and it was at that time I asked my Aunty and Uncle to take me to their church. It was a Presbyterian one but they were Spiritualists. It was about that time I got my new childrens bible and saw the picture of Jesus being baptised and that was the point at which I desired to be baptised by immersiion - just took me 10 years to find someone who would do it. I picked when I started looking for my baptism because for I have always known I was on the right path, I was being lead by Heavenly Father and Jesus (I have always seen them as seperate beings even as a small child) My favourite picture is still the one of Jesus getting baptised it shows humilty all 3 members of the Godhead (well ok you have to listen to get Heavenly Father lol) and has that beautiful view of Galilee -Charley

I have been praying a lot about what you wrote and hope you are still reading the thread. Do you keep a journal? its something that we are asked to do by the First Presidency but I had as a low priority, then I started, I started to see anwers to prayers and understandings I had that I didn't know or would have forgotten about. Other religons are my big temptation - if you can borrow or buy a copy I recommend reading Religions of the World from a Latter Day Saint View by Spencer J Palmer its very interesting and may help yo uunderstand your feelings-Charley

rThat makes me think of another slightly crude one about a man who kept complaining about the terrible screaming at a local convent only to be told they would try and keep it down. Then one day a nun popped out and said sorry but they were holding a monks ball - probably not suitable but I was told it by my Gran when I was about 7 only she got it wrong trying to be posh and called it a monks dance. -Charley

I was thinking about you today wanted to ask if you have a date night? I started one at home when I was having a rough time - basically I run a nice hot bath, chop up fruit with chocolate sauce and nice juice, look out mine and Richards best PJs and warm them on the radiator. I then put on my nice music and get in the bath took a while but now and Richards best PJs and warm them on the radiator. I then put on my nice music and get in the bath took a while but now Richard joins in. Worse that happens is I have a nice night pampering me:) -Charley

What you are going through is perfectly normal have you asked your husband for a blessing:? When Richard and I go through rocky times we have a couple counsel - complete with agenda etc we have gone through some really rough times and they really help pull us together, we talk about our wedding day, what we saw in each other. I will be honest I find him more attractive a few pounds he lighter, and I am sure its the same the other way round. Don't worry you can rekindle your relationship with work - Richard and I went through a bad patch but we are like newly weds right now. But don't wait for the miracle. -Charley

yes it is - I cant remember exact details but there was a period when there were 4 popes at once I seem to remember its where the Orthodox Churches come from. Maybe someone can confirm it -Charley

this is difficult - I have been on both sides my Mums family disowned me and Mum when she moved in with another woman. But I know my husband wants to cut off contact with his sister when his Mom dies or isn;t bothered about keeping it alive. I honestly don't know what I will say is my life is rich without them but I do wonder what they are doing and miss them -Charley

I am glad it helped - the article had a great effect on the way I parent my 4 year old daughter - I then bought a book How to Talk so Your Kids will Listen and it helped too -Charley

What I did to keep it easy is to use the New Testament Stories - had an older child read it, put hymns in an appropriate places and had the younger children act out the parts - we are very low tech though the manger is usually a magazine rack and Jesus a tiny tears (I made mistake of using my baby doll he wouldn't fit in the rack lol so we had to have Mary hold him the whole time) - some of the older kids also gave talks and anyone else was in the choir. We had an activity to make tinsel crowns and like necklace things. -Charley

I do know that once they have both passed on they are both sealed to one another by proxy . Thus, she is sealed to both husbands, and it is my understand the choice is hers as to whom she will have for her eternal companion.I'm not sure what happens with the children. Elphaba We had couples in my college ward in this situation - they received special counselling before their marriages. Their understanding was children born to a second husband were sealed to the first husband. They just had faith it would work out somehow in the eternities but the standard doctrine does not make it an easy or cosy situation -Charley

just wanted to post these they really helped us http://providentliving.org/content/display...-3236-1,00.html http://providentliving.org/content/display...-3236-1,00.html might help tp print off some to show to friends also Chieko Okazaki wrote some great articles about not needing to be perfect -Charley

This is my favourite http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Mag...onsequences.htm The Truth of Consequences By Carol McAdoo Rehme When my husband and I changed the way we reacted to our children’s behavior, we found that the natural consequences of their actions taught them more than our scolding ever had. Carol McAdoo Rehme, “The Truth of Consequences,” Ensign, Apr. 2000, 31–32 “I’ve had it with these kids!” My hands shook as I filled the dishwasher. My husband stopped beside me on his way out the door. Planting a kiss on my lips, he nodded knowingly, shrugged, and hurried off to work. I turned again to the sink. I felt discouraged. In fact, we both felt overwhelmed by the ongoing challenge of appropriately disciplining our children. It seemed we were spending more time punishing than praising, more time chastising than commending. Parenting felt like a difficult game with complicated rules, and we were losing. Like many parents, we struggled with discipline. We knew we yelled too quickly, threatened too often, and grounded too easily. At times not only our children seemed out of control but also our own responses. We needed to do something different. After discussing our concerns with the children and with each other, we took our problem to Heavenly Father and asked to be led to information that would teach us to be better parents. We were astonished at the powerful answer that came: Change had to begin with us. With that, my husband and I began studying the words of the prophets and reading self-help books on parenting. As we looked for answers we finally conceded that our problems stemmed mainly from two weak areas: lack of consistency and failure to reward appropriate behavior. But how could we discipline consistently when the misbehavior varied from child to child? from day to day? from hour to hour? And how could we reward good behavior when we focused primarily on what our children did wrong? We came to value many precepts taught in the scriptures, including this verse: “Whom the Lord loveth he correcteth” (Prov. 3:12). Yes, we needed to “correct,” but how? As we studied further, we learned about applying natural or logical consequences, and we set a new goal to allow our children to experience the repercussions of their actions—good or bad. Rewarding the Good Rewarding good behavior sounded easy, but it required changing our outlook. At first we found a need to create opportunities to offer praise and give credit where it was due. Since everyone needs positive feedback, we became vigilant observers, alert to small acts of obedience and deeds of kindness, and we were lavish with our compliments. We discovered that the younger children needed to see immediate results for their actions, and they soon began thriving on our renewed applause. The older ones sought our approval for their choices, our appreciation for their efforts, our admiration for their accomplishments. How had we missed this before? To our amazement, we saw our children respond to our new emphasis with a desire to please us. Agreeing with the Psalmist that “praise is comely” (Ps. 147:1), we cheered them on. New Ideas for Old Problems Working on natural consequences as a form of discipline, however, involved a different tactic, a new mode of thinking. We began by reworking our house rules, making them simpler and easier to understand. The new rules, effective immediately, required cooperation and support from everyone. They included such things as treating each other with respect and treating others’ possessions with respect. We also eliminated the word punishment from our vocabulary and used consequence, result, or effect instead. With rules in place, we also had to think of new, natural consequences when something went wrong. Each time a child broke a house rule, we attempted to find a repercussion appropriate to the action. As parents, we needed to slow down and learn to act instead of react to a situation. Knowing we had a plan helped us defuse our own short tempers, and this newfound skill allowed us to step back emotionally to review each circumstance and decide what to do. Many solutions to poor behavior were easy to spot, especially with young children. A child who couldn’t sit still in a chair? She stood to eat her meal. Toys left scattered about the room? They were confiscated for a length of time. A son who tracked in mud? He wiped it up, learning in the process how long it took to mop an entire floor. Discovering practical consequences for our older children was somewhat more complicated but inevitably effective. In a classic example of sibling rivalry, our 10-year-old son raced from the rear seat of the van to claim the empty front seat. In the process, his foot smashed a cake baked for a visiting teaching assignment. Consequence? He tended the other children while I baked a replacement, and he was banned from front seats for three months. Effective? Yes. While we wondered if we had been too hard on him, he admitted the consequence seemed fair. Feelings of fairness, justness, and impartiality have appealed to us all and helped us continue applying natural or logical consequences. We better understood the scripture that says, “He that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons” (Col. 3:25). When the children saw the unbiased, consequential result of their actions, they were willing to continue supporting the new rules. Now when we ground a teenager, we know it is appropriate to the behavior, and we don’t waste our breath on idle threats. Even better, my husband and I realized we didn’t need to yell—we needed to think first, then discuss behavior calmly. Clear Calls on Cloudy Issues Some behaviors such as name calling, hitting, and temper tantrums required creative thinking to find logical consequences. Some of our solutions sounded silly even to us. But they worked. Impolite language violated a house rule. We responded, “If nothing sweet comes out of your mouth, nothing sweet goes in.” The consequence? No desserts or gum. The rudeness of one child toward another brought another consequence: “Since you can’t play nicely together, maybe you can work together.” The answer? Assigning a chore requiring cooperation. With a son on one side of a window and a daughter on the other, we watched the two stare each other down, then begin an ugly-face contest. Laughter followed as, teammates once again, they wiped away the dirt along with their bad feelings. Another favorite solution demanded that the offender serve the offended—literally—by taking over personal chores such as bed making. At first tantrums stumped us. What was a natural consequence for losing your temper? In the past, we simply banned the children from the room or grounded them. With our new approach, however, we discovered a technique effective for any argument. “You wasted 30 minutes of my time and squandered 45 minutes of your dad’s time. Now you need to repay us.” The consequence? A list of jobs equal to the total length of tantrum time. We found it important that the chores be those parents normally did. Easy time-fillers negated the effect. Our children washed walls, cleaned baseboards, dusted bookshelves, and wiped down appliances. Occasionally a behavior surfaced that defied an immediate, logical consequence. Then we found it best to pause, step back, and declare a time-out so we could act on rather than react to the situation. We freely admitted, “I don’t know what the answer is. We’ll discuss it in a while.” This allowed us as parents to prayerfully consider what should happen, and it also gave our children an opportunity to contemplate the problem too. Often a child would tell us what the natural result should be. We also learned the importance of remembering to follow through on a postponed discussion. Smoother Sailing Over a 10-year period, we worked as a couple and as a family to implement the technique of using natural or logical consequences. As we have done so, we have observed marked changes in our children’s attitudes and behaviors. Our family life flows more smoothly. Our children have come to understand an important principle: actions carry consequences which can be good or not, depending on the choices made. We have been grateful to Father in Heaven for helping us learn better ways to guide our children. Because of these changes, the difference in our home life today is tangible, even occasionally verging on the heavenly. Gospel topics: discipline, parenthood, self-control [photos] Photography by Matt Reier; posed by models

Excellent pont susieSA. Of course, I am mighty good in assisting people to decide to be offended. It's a gift. LOL Snow I knew every life had a purpose:) Brigham Young said something along the lines of anyone who takes offence when none is intended is a fool and anyone who takes offence when offence is intended is usually a fool - i try to keep that in mind. Perhaps someone knows the exact quote -Charley

I have/had Post Natel Depression following the birth of my son it can be debilitating. Any illness can become a blessing but it takes time to learn to live with it, don't expect too much from yourself. Do what you can when you can. My husband has serious debilitating depressive episodes, we have found that increasing his exercise levels. keeping his mind active (online chess, crosswords etc), getting out in the fresh air for at least 15 minutes a day and increasing the amount of fruit and veg keep him on a level. We also did an elimination diet and discovered beef and chicken trigger it so we have one meat meal a week, rest of time we do veggie. -Charley

Truth is what happens whilst we are busy getting on with our lives - what is true and what happens doesn't change but our perceptions of it do change as we grow and learn more. I remember a bit of flint I found at an excavation as a student, personally I thought it looked like a chip off a stone made by a tractor, the second year student thought it was a half made knife, the third year supervising student thought it was a point of a knife that had broken off- the Professor in charge of the dig declared it to be a scraper (used for removing meat from bones a very effective tool) - so because that is what the bigwig thought - it is now offcially a flint scraper. Had I been doing it it wouldn't have had a record at all and would have been tossed aside, the only thing unusual about it that lead me to ask was the fact it was in an area where flint doesn't occur naturally. Through all this the piece of flint didn't change and the truth is only the person or animal that brought it to the spot, the piece of flint and Heavenly Father know the Truth concerning what it is. But the record contains the most accurate description availible to us at this point. -Charley

At 31 I still don't know what I want to do when i grow up lol, my patriachal blessing has a lot to say about my career but still no idea what - I am thinking recently it has to do with helping women with post natel depression. Until I was about 6 or 7 I wanted to be a pilot and fly concorde they told me then because of my eyesight it would never happen lol so that dream was up the spout. At about that time I saw my first episode of Quincy and wanted to be a pathologist and also something started a desire to be an archaeologist, went through other desires but right through school these were my two choices, I had decided I wanted to combine them I didn't know until I was about 14 what I wanted to be was a forensic anthropologist, I didn't get the grades to do medicine so started down the archaeology route with my degree and had managed to talk the professor at another university into letting me do the forensic course post grad as long as a passed my first degree. However I got sick and that was end of that lol Until I was 15 I also wanted to be a Nun or a Minister, but becoming LDS stopped that dream as well. -Charley

I am very deeply in love with 2 men - in my teens I fell very deeply in love with a man who is homosexual, then when I was in my 20s I met my husband whom I adore. I have never nor will I ever cheat on my husband, my feelings for him are deeper because we live togetehr and have children, but I know that I could have easily have that with 2 other men in my life Like Spencer W Kimball said any 2 good people can make a good marriage -Charley

I am trying to pity you lol but its too familiar right now. Poor pity me pa left me to sleep but decided to take a shower, Gabey is nursing (he is soaking wet having been in the shower with pa its a walk or in his case crawl in one), Ellie is bouncing on the bed, Sylvie (cat) is miaowing at me and Lucy (dog) is sitting near me wimpering because the kids are after her. -Charley

Ellie had a NOT back to school picnic this week it was fun the kdis are celebrating the fact they don't need to go and they get their supplies for the year, she has the Hello Kitty bag and pencil case she wanted. Although we haven't stopped doing 'school' some of the kids had. -Charley