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Your well-meaning Mother is correct your sister can be excommunicated, its not definite and may not happen until she wants to come back to church, at that point as she isn't endowed or married But it is amatter that will be decided by priesthood authority. Being Unrepentant is the main reason, a lot depends on callings that are held, if you've been through the temple Usual ones are: Chastity issues Taking a life And preaching false doctrine. -Charley

If you don't have the answers, where did you get the questions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology Here is a definition of anthropology, there are no right answers its what you feel about them that matters. The person conducting the study should not influence them instead should observe the culture he is studying. -Charley

1.) Between 10-40 2.) The Mormon Faith is the Church of Jesus Christ...I have been associated with it since the premortal existence, where I chose to follow Jesus as my Savior. 3.) Nope. 4.) Sure. 5.) Perfect. 6.) He saves us from death and hell by his sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection. 7.) High. 8.) He was a prophet called by God to restore His Son's Church with doctrines, authority and ordinances. 9.) It's a good book with good teachings. They both contain the gospel of Christ. Bible's not as doctrinally correct in all cases. 10.) Genetics, mostly. 11.) Do it. 12.) An important one. 13.) Not because he's LDS, but because he's for family, military and capitalism. 14.) Not yet...one of my brothers is in med school right now, though. If you're disappointed with my terse answers, it's most likely because I think you should go do your own research about LDS doctrine on lds.org, and I don't think an internet site is a good place to ask people for their age or family info. Good luck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology#...to_Anthropology this is what anthropology is what he is doing is very approptriate. He is not studing doctrine but your reactions to it,. Charley

http://www.ciu.edu/I thought he was being humourous lol and it was more like a health warning. -Charley

Well and good, PC...but we accept that JS was a prophet, and G-d knows ALL the languages...G-d told JS what to write...JS didn't use his own words...he was INSPIRED just as the writers of the Bible and the original gold plates were...I don't see that as a paraphrase...I see that as a direct line from G-d. In fact, that is why I believe that the BoM is more correct than the Bible...because less "hands" have handled the translation. Yed. I think the difference is most translations of the bible are produced by scholars, Joseph Smith wasn't. The 1811 translation of the KJV used over 50 scholars of mixed faith. Charley

These are just my own ponderings based on the scripture: I believe there is a difference between someone that knows the Lord and someone who believes in him. I do feel that some people who have different faiths know the Lord better than some Latter Day Saints. I see him in the countenance of people. Those people I believe are like the Pagan lady in the new testament - you know the story with the dogs and the crumbs off the table. When she saw Christ her faith was strong and she recognised him with no teaching - some people I do believe will be like that. But there are also the Dwarves like in Narnia who were only for the Dwarves and could not be persuaded that they were in heaven and thought Aslans roaring was an earthquake. -Charley

What a beautiful and thought provoking post!!! I too, have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia...and I struggle with not only the pain, but the attitude of friends and acquaintances who JUST don't get it!!! They cannot see the struggle I face every day...they wonder why I don't just find a job!!! The chronic fatigue that goes along with the fibro can be so debilitating!!! I struggle with depression because I am not as active as I used to be and as a consequence...I have gained weight. People who know nothing about this disorder just assume that I am lazy or that I eat too much, both are wrong assumptions, but I get harshly judged by people who claim to be my friends as well...even my Bishop, who I KNOW cares deeply for me, does not understand and continues to advise me to look for work and work towards self sufficiency...I am in SSDI right now, and not many people in my ward understand the concept of disability. (well, they do...but only if the disability is one that is obvious to the outside...hidden ones tend to be invalidated, that has been my experience) Thanks for bringing this out in such an eloquent way, Charley!!! BTW...I also agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY about how other religions can give insight and truth...I too...read and study up on other religions as well...I have been influenced by some of the things I have come across and have incorporated them into my belief system. i noticed yourself and several others had similar illnesses I thought it would be nice to talk about it as something positive, I have tried support groups and whilst Idon't mind whining about my illness, over the last few years I am just feeling like I have got past that stage and actually my illness has have given me a lot in my life I would not have had without it, yes it has taken my dreams but I would have been a very different person, personally I think such a large number of Latter Day Saints have the illness because it can give us glimpses and understandings of heaven -Charley Ok I had the standard tests to check I wasn't dying or it wasn't something gixable. Then they checked for the pressure points about my body you are supposed to have at least 11 out of 18 for them to diagnose you. I do think its really the diagnosis that Doctors give when they don't know what is wrong. In my own case there is a family history of the illness, my Auntie, my Gran and my Brother all have it plus a Great Great Aunt on my Dads side probably did

A lot of conditions are unseen, you feel lousy inside but everybody else thinks you look normal. Lupus, Fibromyalgia, ChronicFatigue, ME, even something like Irritable Bowel Syndrome can be very debilitating. Then there is depression. Frequently I get people wonder why I don't get off my backside and do more, reason is quite frankly because I can't. This website has a wonderful description of how my day functions http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/navigati...SpoonTheory.pdf Its been a rollercoaster ride for me. I was diagnosed in 1997 with Fibromyalgia at the time I was at university studying Archaeology more than anything I wanted to work as a Forensic Anthropolgist - and I had impressed the head of the department at a university enough that he wanted me to do the Phd there I was going to be able to do what I had wanted to do since I was 6. I was also working 2 jobs, walking about 7 miles a day and swimming 50 lengths 3 times a week. But I was just getting weaker and weaker, I found myself doing daft things like walking down the hill from work and sitting in a chapel for an hour before I could walk all the way back up the hill to home. 3 months after that I was lying in bed, couldn't deal with any light or sound, I was lucky that for a further few months after that I was able to read my scriptures before Thomas the Tank Engine became a chore. If I left the house it was after lots of painkillers and in a wheelchair (we didn't have a car at the time). I wasn't sucidal but if the Lord had taken me at that time I would have seen that as a blessing. During that time I learned that there were much worse things in life than death. I also put on 30lbs in 2 months. I was sent many 'angels' during that time people who were in my life for a short time and helped me see scraps of light, over time what I call fibrofog just got worse and the spirit was blocked, I couldn't feel the Lord anymore, this was awful since I was very tiny Ihad just known he was by my side and to lose him so completely was awful I knew he was there. I couldn't go to church and I was in the care of a very anti Mum who would quite happilly make me drink alcohol etc I started to struggle with unclean thoughts and other issues I am not proud of, I was so sure I had messed up my patriachal blessing somehow and that was why I was like this. I had also reecived a blessing from my Home Teacher who it turned out was about as unrighteous as you can get at the time, and the blessing I was hanging onto that said I would get well if I achieved certain things in my life was false, and I have to say I wasted about 4 years of my life on it. My faith was very low, then one day I asked my next door neighbour for another blessing I remember it very clearly said that I was doing the very best with what the Lord had given me at that time - was such a huge boost to me, and told me that my illness would teach me more about the atonement and the gospel than the scriptures would ever contain, and that the Lord had moved the goal posts previously my relationship with him had been so easy for me, it was time for me to start working for it. I have had an amazing journey and Heavenly Father is right my understanding of the Gospel has had to increase, because I couldn't study my scriptures the same, I now understand why people in Africa, and Mauri's in New Zealand have such amazing stories, if you can't read the scriptures then the revelation has to come straight from the Lord. Reminds of when Joseph Smith said that if you could glimpse into heaven for just 5 minutes you would learn more than a lifetime reading the Book of Mormon. Over the years through blessings, scripture reading I have learned many things, because of my illness, main ones being out of the worst things, the very best comes, trials are just blessings in disguise and that the other religions can teach us a lot. I had to search out ways to connect with God better, and now have a full prayer routine, that has been inspired by Hindu, Muslim and Pagan friends. I have as a result of the meditations got more connected with the enviroment around me that just screams witness of our Heavenly Father. Ihave also learned some humility and learned to trust him to guide me the right way. I am not going to get well but I have had to learn how my body works and more about the Word of Wisdom and looking after myself. I have also learned I don't need to perfect as long as I am right with the Lord and myself that is all that matters. And the atonement has really become more than an abstract concept to me - when I read about whilst my pain is nothing compared to what the Lord endured, its enough for me to be filled with some level of compassion and empathy. I want to say I know that my illness is a great blessing in the lives of myself and my family, my children will have to grow up moreself sufficient, and I am very greatful to the Lord for the blessing he has given us. Not sure what else to say but I know other people on these boards suffer as well and I felt it would be good to start a discussion. -Charley

Sorry lol didn't mean to sound judgemental, I think I am just panicking about my move and beginning to wonder just how odd I will be, its more curiousity and a my goodness isn't that weird than ooh you shouldn't do that. I'm not anti babysitter and glad it went well. just it seemed odd to have one for things that would be natural for me to just take my kids and not think twice. Children here are much more portable than they used to be. But I did find when I was in Southern California it was a lot more difficult to take my daughter out and about, I needed a much bigger bag full of stuff (here diapers are supplied in stores, everywhere has a play area or toys etc), and not every restaurant had a high chair, so I also had a chair sling. Here I just take a couple of nappies, change of clothes, snacks, book and small toy. And I do notice that my sister in law leaves her children with my Mother in Law when I would have just taken them. My daugter would be very disappointed if I didn't take her to a Drs appointment she loves going she takes her Drs kit and wears her coat lol she attended all my ante natel appointments when I was pregnant with my son, I had a lot because of Pre-Eclampsia in my first pregnancy. -Charley

That is truism lol where did it come from is it s Susieism?Charley

I would take my children with me to most of those occasions, here theDrs surgery has a box of toys in the corner, same for the car servicing places or you leave the car and go somewhere else, my children help buy groceries, and they could certainly come to a sports game. I have nothing against babysitters but wow that a lot of time with your child with strangers, might as well work outside the home. Is this a cultural difference? Charley The medical receptionist at the doctor's office is not a daycare attendant while you have your exam or medical procedure. The 5 minute oil change could turn into a couple of hours with no place in walking distance to shop/eat. It's okay to take your kids to the grocery store once in a while but more often than not, they don't want to go and you spend money buying stuff they want that is not on your list; probably more than the cost of a babysitter. Taking other siblings to an event for one of your children and having to constantly work to keep them with you is not quality time for the child performing now is it? The average parent(s) with two-three children spend an average of 2 hours shopping at the grocery store. Without the kids, this chore can be accomplished in about 45 minutes and you save anywhere from $30 to $80 not buying the things they see and want and you have not budgeted. You are not going to have a medical appointment for yourself every day. Taking care of yourself is very important to your family. I am sure you would feel more comfortable without them. Just to let you know, my son was one of the babies being taken care of by Jessica's mother when Jessica fell down the well in Midland, Texas! Like I said I do wonder how much of this is cultural would like to know before I move to the US and I am too shocked? There is a lot here that is a problem because children are not involved in daily life, I do not expect my medical receptionist or dental receptionist to care for my children they have both come with me from an early age and neither is disruptive they come into the appointment, and sit and play quietly in fact my daughter loves coming because she gets to play with toys there or ones Itake with me they are not allowed to play in the house, my ten month old now knows that is how to behave. My daughter can sit for 5 minutes whilst oil is changed, I just keep a book in my bag. If its a longer service we just go for a walk. And I firmly believe children should not have everything bought for them in the store, she helps with the shopping, and look at prices and do reading. I don't think it even takes us 45 minutes. Again my daughter is used to going places with Mum and Dad and can sit for an hour with a sibling performing would not be a problem - we practise by taking her to recitals and theatre. It just takes a little organisation. Maybe I expect a lot from my kids but from a very early age they can learn how to behave in different situations -Charley

I gotta post this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnjcX8skXk&...ted&search= and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDpD8dUOb4&...ted&search= and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HXtdyi088NY&...ted&search= and just for fun http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oFNwEQKTvOE&...ted&search= and http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v94M0k4vTLs (part 1) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVGX_OOrQ0 (part 2) slight health warning its Church Standard no swearing, nudity or violence but does contain a drag act (it was a teattime/pre watershed show) -Charley

So, would you recommend taking it on a campout? The raccoons and garbage would be worth hauling a little extra weight, I'd think... I never knew that about Pine Sol. Did it work for bugs as well? Like spiders, beetles, etc.? It is going to be getting cold up here where I'm at soon enough, and I'm sure they are going to want to get in the house and basement before long... lavender and peppermint are great for most bugs, citronella is also good and cider vinegar

no to me its just choosing how you die when you are going to go anyway. I have a lot of sympathy with euthanasia even if I don't agree with it. If Iwasn't LDS I would have considered it when my illness was at its worse. There are much worse things in life than death Charley

apparently if you pee in yourbackyard its supposed to keep them away DrT, we used myhusbands urine when our cat was being troubled it worked a treat Charley

Don't go against your husbands wishes. The church does not advocate being sneaky and doing things behind your spouses or parents (if you are a legal minor) backs. Live your life as though you were baptised, go to church if you husband does not object. Pray, read the scriptures, etc. Pray for your husband and put his name on the Temple prayer rolls - but do not go behind his back. Talk with the Bishop/Branch President about this, and follow his advise. IF the missionaries are pressuring you to get baptised, get to the Bishop and tell him this, STAT! They are NOT to pressure you, and they are NOT to encourage you to go against your husbands wishes. This is what Iwould have said down to every last word -

I assume you mean this for school holidays, not during term time. If this is the case, can I ask why? One of the best things about being a kid/teenager in the holidays is the freedom to go to bed when you want and get up when you want. I used to love staying up late chatting with my sister till the early hours knowing everyone else was asleep-theres something magical and fun about it. We were never penalised for that by having to get up at a certain time. Im just wondering your logic behind it? +we are homeschoolers, mean parents our kids don't get holidays. If someone has arranged a reason to be out late then of course there is flexibility, but I do believe early to rise is good for a person, Its one thing I admire in my Dad he doesn't waste anyday, he is up at 5.30am and he gets so much done so by breakfast when he was on holiday he had the whole day to himself,he has so much energy. I want it to be ingrained in my kids that each day is a gift and to make the most of it. -Charley

I would take my children with me to most of those occasions, here theDrs surgery has a box of toys in the corner, same for the car servicing places or you leave the car and go somewhere else, my children help buy groceries, and they could certainly come to a sports game. I have nothing against babysitters but wow that a lot of time with your child with strangers, might as well work outside the home. Is this a cultural difference? Charley

Chances are your lo isn't that bad - I had the only small child in a small branch and really struggled keeping her quiet I thought she was dreadful even the Stake President said she wasn't very reverent. My branch was very understanding and most of them were wonderful. Then one day we had visitors and I realised Ellie was just pretty normal. Better than some kids worse than others, I find they all get to about 12:25pm and start to get more restless than they were. My Branch President one day suggested I take Ellie out with no toys but not do anything like time out, just sit in the room where the service was piped through as though it was sacrament, be reverent myself, maybe use the opportunity to explain some of the talks to Ellie. And also explain to her when she was ready Mummy, Daddy, Heavenly Father and everyone in the branch would be so pleased if she would go into sacrament. Took 2 weeks lol second week we came out and within ten minutes she got up and walked back into sacrament. She has been good as gold since and think I have taken her out twice since. (must be over a year, as she was 2.5 and is now nearly 4) - even listens and joins in with hymns and will occasionally listen to the talks We also have a bag with books in we only use on Sunday, some healthy treats that she only gets on Sunday and her special sacrament quiet book. It is just a half sheet photo album, with pictures of the Saviour, the sacrament prayers, quotes, hymns, children song book songs, pictures of temples, the prophet, a quote from him, poems about reverence. She only gets that whilst the bread and water is being handed out. On balance I like my branch presidents advice that a child shouldn't be punished for not sitting still in sacrament it shouldn't be something they dread and should be something they want to attend. Ican still be reverent and listen to the service whilst she plays Ican set the example. I am lucky my branch has several members that will go up and say how pleased they were that they behaved so well in sacrament and how lovely it was to see them. Most of our families are fairly relaxed (there are now 15+ children in our branch after there only being my daughter and 1 ten year old last year), the children if they are playing up can go out with one or two parents and colour, whilst the parents listen to the service, as they all have very reverent older children guess the key is example. -Charley

oh Dr T thats awful I told my daughter and she says weare going to pray she comes home, please keep usposted about Sassy. Charley

if you have lavender oil or teatree oil they are also antibacterial, so is the rosemary. BicarbDeordorises. Lemon or orange juice may also help asthey break down grease. Charley

When our kids get older(our oldest is 3) we're going to have a set waking up time, but no bedtime, so they can stay up late, play games all night if they want, but they have to pay for it the next day. -Gabelpa And of course being kids, they will totally understand the logic of going to bed earlier. You "allow" a kid to stay up all night they will. Especially when they are teenagers. I still have a tv curfew for my teenagers. If not...they also are "bears" during the day. actually it has worked very well with friends of ours, and what my husband failed to mention is its what we do with our daughter already at 3 she knows when she is tired and will go to bed at a reasonable time. Charley

I agree have only everlet family members look after my kids and have one very close friend I would let. Charley

It isn't stupid if I say help yourself I mean I want you to make yourself at home if I can't afford to do that then I leave out a plate of treats and maybe some supper.. Its just as important to be a good babysitter employerCharley

Something I liked when I was interviewed was the lady that actually invited me to dinner and we played games with her children afterwards. It was a wonderful oppotunity to see how the family worked, and I felt much more confident looking after her children Charley