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Our faith can be and is tested in other ways besides religous hatred. To answer you Moksha- if there was no religous hatred it would not change my life- because there is no religous hatred in my life now. I can not answer for any other than myself either.

I just got home from work- so I have about 45 minutes before I have to start cooking dinner- Husband will be home between midnight and 12:30. After dinner I can post more- or read a book. Don't feel like a movie tonight.

Dr T, where have all your cats gone?? Did you chase them away?

5. Other: Child of God, Mrs Iggy, Sister Iggy, Iggy. There really is no sense in posting to several different sections, the same people will read it. It is not like you are asking an entirely different group of peoples. FYI, If the same topic gets posted to two or more different sections, then I will refuse to answer any of them.

Thank you so much LatterDaySaint for that link - it is EXACTLY what I have been looking for! Thank You Thank You Thank You:bouncingclap:

Jello- check out the web site: JELL-O Gelatin, Pudding, and No-Bake Desserts - Every Diet Needs a Little Wiggle Room and no AnthonyB it is not strictly a LDS food. My family was not LDS and we ate Jello all the time. It is easy to make, cheap and healthy and us kids (7 of us) loved it. I even like it with 1 cup extra water in it and drink it moderately hot. We also drank enough Kool-Ade to sink a battleship. We also made Kool-Ade popsicles! Funeral Potatoes- I prefer to use cream of mushroom soup or cream of celery soup and then add about 3 ribs of diced celery, and one onion chopped, and I prefer the simple recipe. Funeral Potatoes (simple) 2 tbsp. melted butter 1 can cream of chicken soup 1-1/2 lb. frozen hash browned potatoes (shredded are best) 1 c. sour cream 4 oz. shredded cheddar cheese Dump everything in a bowl, mix thoroughly, cover, and bake at 350 F. in a greased 9”x13” pan for 45-60 minutes. Also: Funeral Potatoes (classic) 6-8 potatoes, cooked, peeled, and grated or cubed 1/2 c. minced onion 1 can cream of chicken soup 1 pint sour cream 1/2 c. grated cheese 3/4 tsp. salt optionally: 2 tbsp. melted butter 1 c. crushed cornflakes Spread potatoes in a buttered casserole dish. Heat soup, sour cream, and onion in sauce pan, then pour over potatoes, but DO NOT STIR. Sprinkle cheese on top if you’re Aunt Marilyn Crandall; if you’re Julie Nielsen, mix the cheese, butter, and cornflakes together, and then sprinkle them on top. Bake at 350 F. for 30 minutes.

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Think how tired you will be when you will HAVE to do all those things! Can you bathe with only 2 quarts of water and that includes getting your hair clean too? Can you live without running water for 2 weeks? How about no electricity and no running water for 2 weeks? How will you dispose of your body waste with NO running water?? Remember now, there is no more DDT to put on it to stop the spread of diseases. Yes it is tiring- do you honestly believe that your Great grandmother had an easy life taking care of her family- washing clothes by hand, ironing them with a cast-iron iron heated on the wood stove? Hauling water from a well or creek? For just one day- turn off your water main and electricity and do without. Continue to live your life as normal as possible. Cook, clean, bathe. No trips to the store either for water, or fast food places for your meals. Can you do it? I can. I have. For more than one day - for months at a time. Year after year for 10 years. I have hauled in snow in lined garbage cans and put it in the bathtub so I would have something to flush the toilet with. Two quarts of melted snow(water) will flush the toilet as long as you do NOT fill up the tank. I saved all the cooking and cleaning water to flush with too when the snow water ran out. I hauled water in 5 gallon collapsible containers carrying one in each hand, every day. Even though it was just from the car to the house, I couldn't get as close to the house as I would have liked. Did I get tired? You better believe it! I worked in a hardware store from 8 am to 4:30. Went to a friends house to fill up my containers of water from her garden tap or bathtub, hauled 20 gallons of water to my car. Then I had to go home and cook out on the porch, in my warmest coat and hat because it was cold out there, because I had no electricity. I had to wash my dishes in the smallest amount of water possible and save every drop of it. I hand washed my 'unnerwares' to keep the amount of laundry I took to the laundrymat down and because the laundrymats dryers were too hot for my unnerwares. Jeans and towels yes- I only dried my perm press for 10 minutes and took it home damp and hung them all on hangers on thin rope strung through out my house. Why did I live this way? I owned the house and 10 acres, every winter my water lines froze up and the electricity went out when ever we had any wind to speak of. I didn't have the money to go live in a motel and eat out and take my laundry to the dry cleaners. The next year some teens shot out the power transmitters all along a 100 mile line and it took weeks for the elect comp to get replacements. Yes the teens got caught and their parents paid royally- but it still took time to get enough transmitters. It is tiring work, making bread from scratch and without the ease of a bread machine, but it is also WAY cheaper. When you are only earning enough money to pay rent, utilities and pay your tithing and have to go to the Church for food and gas money and car insurance, you don't abuse that charity! I could make the bread cheaper than it could be purchased 'Ready Made', same with the pasta. It is way tiring to hand wash your clothes and then hang them around the house to dry. It is WAY tiring to chop & haul wood in & to keep a fire going in a wood stove to heat that house. Couldn't cook on it - no flat top. I am now 10 years older, I live in Arizona instead of Oregon, and I can still live that way, granted it will take me longer to haul the water - I will have to do 5 gals at a time and take rests- I still make and bake my own bread, I still make my own noodles by hand without the aid of a fancy machine. I never want to wash my clothes out by hand, but I will if it is necessary because I will not go around with stinky dirty clothes. I also will not sit around complaining because there is no running water, no electricity. I will roll up my sleeves and dig in and get what needs to be done-done. Practice going without water and electricity for a day, then for a few days, then for a week or two. Learn how to do it, get prepared. Oh, and remember that in the winter the amount of daylight you have is short. Can't do much in the dark- have to be careful of candles, hurricane lanterns. Can't use propane or liquid gas stoves or heaters inside the house.

I don't use a bread machine, I do it by hand. Well, I do use the Bosch to mix and knead the bread. Can't do the kneading any more. My shoulders just can't take it. Substitute mollasses for the honey. Adds color and improves the flavor I think. You can decrease the salt to 1 tsp. For 12 cups of flour I use 4 tsp. If your bread seems to be heavy, you can add 2 TBS of Vital Gluten. Can get this at nearly any large grocery. It is sold in small bags- a pound or less. Store it in a glass mayo or mason jar. Wait until your stores have the flour and baking items on sale, especially around thanksgiving and chirstmas. Then buy as many as you have room for in the freezer. DO NOT freeze sugar or salt. Used to be they would have baking items on sale during Valentines day too- but I haven't seen it the last year or two. When you store your grains,(either whole or flour) store them OFF the floor at least one inch, in extremely clean containers. You can purchase food grade plastic bag liners at Food Co-Op's. Go online and hunt down the Co-Ops in your area. I was using Flax in my breads- flax is so oily that it will go rancid in about 3 months- so only buy what you can use up in three months. I have also discovered that squarish containers utilize the space where round does not. I know that canned goods are all round. Can't change that - but the containers you buy to store your staples can be square or rectangular. I used to get the containers that jerky comes in. Some stores sell the jerky by the piece. When that squarish container is empty they toss them. They are perfect for shelled, unsalted sunflower seeds, smaller grains, rice, etc. Wash them in hot soapy water, rinse, then put them on the top shelf of your dishwasher and wash again. As you take them out of your dishwasher smell them. If you can still smell the jerky, use a food grade plastic bag otherwise your grains will pick up that smell. Those containers are stackable too! I dehydrated frozen vegetables and stored them in plastic bag liners in those containers. When you make stew- add the dehydrated vegetables and watch the liquid level. Add liquid if it gets too low and the vegetables are not fully reconstituted. Not enough veggies in your canned soup, add some dehydrated and let simmer until the veggies are rehydrated. I add my dehydrated veggies to Top Ramen when I cook it up. I like Top Ramen, but it is too soupy for me. The dehydrated veggies soak up all the liquid. Add the veggies when you add the noodles, then turn the burner down to between simmer and med. Give your veggies time to rehydrate and slow down the cooking of the noodles so they don't turn into mush. Another great place to store paper items (t.paper, paper towels, and lightweight items) is above the doors going into laundry rooms, bathrooms, storage rooms. I can't do it in the house I live in now- there is only 3" clearance from the top of the door frames to the ceilings. NOT tall doors, but LOW ceilings. This house is an OLD adobe home. 9" thick outer walls and low ceilings.

When I left my 1st husband and was on a tight budget , I discovered that by making my own bread and noodles was WAY cheap! I was getting food from the church, and I could have gotten bread- but I had grown up with homemade bread and then with buying multi grain breads ($2+ to $5+ a loaf) in my first marriage. Those 'Balloon Breads' that are $0.69 a loaf to me are awful. I could also get noodles & pasta through the church too, but again, I grew up on home made noodles. My days off were Wed & Thurs. I was up at 6 AM every other Wed so I could make my 6 to 8 loaves of bread. Whole grains, multi grain and white. Flour is cheap. Especially when you buy it on sale. I buy the 5 pound bags and put them in my freezer. A batch of bread (6 loaves) takes about 3 1/2 pounds of flour. Last time I bought flour I got a 5 lb bag for $1.00! I also buy yeast by the brick, store it in a family size mayo jar in the fridge. The last brick (2 pounds) of yeast cost me $5. You use 4 tbs per batch. Then I had an upright freezer that was just a bit smaller than my fridge. It was full of flour, home made bread (baked and some not yet baked), home made pie dough, rolled out and then folded up into parchment paper ready to thaw and then placed into pie plates with fillings. I also shared my big freezer with a couple of friends. It was located in a shed and we all had keys to the padlock. The noodles you make as you need them. Nothing like fresh home made noodles for your beef stroganof. I got a Bosch stand up mixer with a grain grinder, meat grinder, food shredder attachments, so I buy whole grains and make my own flour. I even grind whole rice into flour and add that to wheat for bread and noodles. Next I want to get a pasta maker - though I do have to eat less pasta than I used to in the past- but I like the different shapes. It all tastes the same, they are just different shapes. I know that my mixer is electric- and that it will be totally useless if there is no electricity - but we also have a generator! It is to keep the fridge and freezer running, and to use select kitchen appliances. I can easily cook without electricity. Have a Coleman stove, etc.

I agree- put it all the way back, ldsforums and ldstalk seperated.

Yep, that is going to happen to you for some time now. The Holy Ghost is testifying to you. I even had to ask in my prayers for the Holy Ghost to turn it down a notch or two. I was in tears so much I thought my face was going to wrinkle and prune up . My favorite song by Kenneth Cope is White Dress. I sobbed so hard and loud I had to play it about 5 times before I heard it - uninterrupted - clear through. WOW!!!

Pam, Pale, I think you overlooked the (generalizing here. . . .) that Scott put in. It really changes the 'flavor' of his reply. He is not accusing any LDS of being a hate monger. I am LDS Scott, and I agree with you. I will use as an example of christians who have gone bad- or un-Christ like, those people who stand in front of the Temple during our general conferences, screaming at us that we are sinful, demanding that we repent and denounce our faith. They claim they are christians- yet their actions and speech is not Christ Like. I don't hate these people. I dislike what they are doing. I pray for them, and ask Father to soften their hearts. I don't hate because of race or religion, or because you belong to the Democratic or Republican, or Libertarian Political party. I do hate though. I readily admit that. I hate individuals- for specific reasons. I do not hate specific groups because they are a specific group.

I like Kenneth Cope- he is LDS I also love Josh Groban. He is not LDS, but his music is uplifting and spiritually filling. I also like Lex de Azelvedo. Not very many, but I also love classical- Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, etc. For me as long as the lyics aren't foul, the music isn't screeching or bringing me down I will listen to it.

Crimson- I am most definitely LDS, so is my dear Husband and when we say God we mean Heavenly Father and only Heavenly Father. During Gospel Doctrine classes and RS classes that I have attended - God is always Heavenly Father- NOT someone in a position of authority and glory, but ALWAYS Heavenly Father. All the Primary Sharing Times that I have taught (was in Primary for 4 years) God is Heavenly Father only. A person of authority could be the Branch 1st Councilor, or the Branch President or even the Stake President or the Stake Patriarch, or the Primary President or one of her Councilors, or the Chief of Police in the town/city where we live. They are most definitely NOT gods. I just want the investigators of the church who come here and who may read this topic to understand that most LDS do say God and mean Heavenly Father only.

Hi PCI don't believe that LDS believe that the Holy Ghost inhabits our corporeal body, resides inside of us. Our own soul/spirit inhabits our mortal body. The Holy Ghost speaks to us via our own soul/spirit. Such as the whisperings of the Holy Ghost. If we do not live in such a way that keeps us in tuned to these whisperings, then we will not "hear" the voice of God. Heavenly Father is an entity. Jesus Christ is his only begotten son and is an entity. The Holy Ghost is an Entity. Three totally separate beings. All three are Gods. Plural. Heavenly Father is who Jesus Christ answers to- He obeys Heavenly Father (God). We mortals obey Jesus Christ, He too is God. Not a different version, but the Son of God (Heavenly Father).Jesus Christ created this earth and us, and every living thing on this planet. Heavenly Father-God commanded Jesus Christ to do this, and Jesus Christ obeyed Him. He did this before He was born as a mortal to Mary.

We recorded Sacrament, Gospel Doctrine and RS for two sisters who were housebound. The Branch President's wife is the one who took the recordings to the sisters. I was Branch Librarian and I helped her to copy the tape. Also one of our members was bedridden, but only lived about 4 houses from the Church - she used the hearing impaired device- worked like a charm. Wouldn't have if she had been any farther away though.

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So you always forget your glasses when you post? Yet you can read every post that does not have the bold, because they all are the same.In the future hold down the control key and use the scroll knob on your mouse and it will either enlarge or decrease the font. OR you can go to the lower right hand corner of your monitor screen, where you see the 100% - click on it and you can select a size to increase your monitor screen. To me your constant use of bold is like others who use all caps - it is shouting and it is rude.

Could be that this is why she picked the name ~ Gaia, also known as the Guardian of the Universal Amalgamator, is a fictional comic book superheroine in the Marvel Comics universe, possibly a mutant or extraterrestrial. Created by Larry Hama, she first appeared in Generation X #37.

AND with garments? Thats my idea of hell!! I'm sorry you feel the wearing of garments are like being in hell. Perhaps you need to change fabrics.

I cut and paste the web site from your signature and it links me back to your profile here at LDSTalk - so how is everyone else getting there??

Answer me this Six, what happens when there are no men in the church - lets say they are ill, wounded, dead - and the women gather together on Sunday for church. Should all those women and young children be bereft of the healing and blessings of the sacrament? No - in cases such as those, the endowed women can bless and pass the sacrament can they not??When my husband was in the hospital I could not reach the Brethren to come bless him. His blood was not clotting and he was bleeding out. He could not and should never bless himself - I laid hands on him and called upon Father for a priesthood blessing upon him. Is this not what you men do when you bless the sick???? When I received my endowments I was single, I called upon Father for a priesthood blessing upon my home. I asked Father for the protection and blessings of the priesthood. Is this not what you men do???? When I received my endowments and when I was sealed to my husband I was empowered with gift of the holy priesthood. I do not use it in the same frequency as the men do - I feel that I hold it in a more sacred light. I know the power of this priesthood and there is no way I would ever be cavalier in my usage of it. I use it in tandem with my husband AND I do so in righteousness. I have never had the brethren lay hands on me and endow me with the Aaronic or Melchezedik priesthood - through my endowment I have been given the power of the priesthood to use in tandem with my husband who holds the priesthood.

We already are vastly superior to you men. You go right ahead and carry a child inside your body and then give birth to said child. If men had that capability there would be far fewer children in the world because men can not tolerate pain like women can. Men can in no way multi task with the skill, accuracy and speed that women do naturally. There is no way Man alone will enter into the Celestial Kingdom - he HAS to be sealed to his wife. In my opinion if man are not walking in tandem with their wife then they are not in a righteous union.

As an Endowed, Married-Sealed in the Temple wife, I already hold the priesthold in tandem with my Endowed, Married-Sealed in the Temple husband. For all of you women who are so quick to repeat the oft repeated thus it is now such a cliche - "I have enough responsibilites and I don't want the preisthood" - maybe you should go do some more Initiatory's and this time pay real close attention to what all is being said. Then do a couple endowment sessions and pay even closer attention. The endowed/sealed in marriage women in the church DO have the preisthood.