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If your freezer is full - the food will stay frozen for nearly a week. Been there done that.

Lipton's Rice-n-Sides has Cheesy Broccoli -n-Rice and cheesy chicken-n-rice. Frozen dinners by Marie Calender's, Healthy Choice, Michelina's, Banquet, Green Giant just to name a few. Nope, lots of people did it, do it. I prefer processed cheese over melting cheddar w/cream added. Hubby #2 loves the cheddar as much as he loves the processed cheese. As a clarification, Hubby #1 whom I was married to for 25 years was 1/2 Japanese/1/4 Cherokee/1/4 Caucasian. Hubby #2 & I have been married 12 years now, and he pretty much like everything I cook. There are a few comfort to me foods, that he would prefer I not feed to him. That is easy to do.

Those who belong to survivalist/prepper forums use the initialism I used. Sh_t Hit The Fan, 'cause if the first word is used, it causes all sorts of alarms and bells to go off. By the way I am a She not a he. And the three letter initialism that you used, was in place of a proper noun aka name of a company, not an abbreviation of doomsday saying. And if I am not wrong in this, you were given a warning because of your response to the question of what it meant not that you used initialism. At least that is how I, personally, saw it.

Yep my parents and Mom's mother thrived during the depression. Daddy was born in 1912, Mom in 1922 and Grandma G in 1899. Grandma owned a cafe. Out in the middle of No and Where in South Dakota. She bartered donuts, pies and cakes for meat, honey, whole wheat grains, etc/ She grew her vegetables there at the cafe and at her home. Absolutely NOTHING went to waste. About rice you ask. My mother hated it. She cooked it mixed up with ground beef (she and Grandma ground their own beef & pork). tomatoes, celery, onions, green bell peppers, and garlic with a bay leaf or three tossed in. She called it Spanish Rice. Make the same dish with elbow macaroni and it was called Goulash. Us kids and Daddy loved white rice in a bowl, add cinnamon, allspice, clove and nutmeg - just small dashes of the spices, sugar and milk. My two older sisters liked to do that with spaghetti or egg noodles (which Mom & Grandma made from scratch and cut out by hand and not with a fancy machine), or elbow macaroni (which was bought from the store). BLEH - butter on the pasta. Or melted Velveeta cheese. Never did have Alfredo Sauce until I was in my mid 50's!! To this day I have no idea why Mom hated white rice. After 25 years being married to a 1/2 Japanese 1/4 Cherokee 1/4 Caucasian man whose mother taught me how to cook pearl rice in a saucepan, and her father taught me how to use a rice cooker. I love rice. Not the long grain, bleached, polished blah white rice. But pretty much all the other ones. Fred Meyer had their Organic brand Jasmine rice on sale. 5 pounds for $1.29!! Yep I bought 3 bags. I mix forbidden black, Himalayan pink, Lundberg's Wild, & any brand organic Basmati. This blend doesn't lend itself to sugar, sweet spices and milk. BUT it is great for savory meats and even with scrambled eggs. Organic, un-enriched, un-polished rice will sprout - so you can sprout it, then a day or two later add it to cooked dishes. Me, I just cook it up in my rice cooker and enjoy with copious amounts of salted butter, or savory meat gravy, or add to sauteed in butter onions-n-celery and when hot add raw, slightly beaten eggs and WaaLaa Breakfast! Hubby had only had long grain white rice his whole life. Then we marry, and I feed him my blend of rice as a side to roast pork loin. Only I add a small can of well rinsed mushroom bits-n-pieces after the cooker has turned off. Stir them in then put the lid back on till you serve the roast. I also like to add smoked oysters(or the tiny oysters in a jar), mushrooms, and salad shrimp. Serve with a Salmon Roast or Salmon Steaks. Out of 5 surviving kids (including myself), I am the only one who likes all the different varieties of rices. The rest only eat the blah white rice and always mixed with the tomatoes and beef. OR my oldest brother loves the rice that his favorite Mexican restaurant fixes.

Pam, another food you should store and use are seeds for sprouting. Not just to grow in the garden, but to sprout in your kitchen and consume after they have sprouted from 2 to 6 days. During the winter when fresh produce is watery tasting from being forced to grow in hot houses - sprout your own fresh greens. Mung beans are the most common - but do others as well. I have really researched this out, and did a RS Evening Meeting presentation about it. Served a completely vegetarian soup after. I sprouted every seed-n-been-n-legume I could buy, then made a soup. Lots of the seeds-beans-legumes can be eaten raw as in salads, between two slices of whole grain bread, tortilla wraps, inside pita breads, etc. I now buy my sprouting seeds-beans-legumes locally and in bulk. Then I vacuum seal most of them in 1/2 cup size packets. You will only sprout 1 to 2 Tablespoons at a time, so 1/2 c packets are plenty big enough without going bad. I had some Chia seeds go bad on me because I put them in the cupboard in the thin plastic bag from the store. WRONG: Store them out of the thin plastic bag & in an airtight/water proof plastic container. Also bulk flax seeds are very oily and will go rancid quickly. I have yet figured out a way to store them to avoid that. If any of you wish to have my booklet on the seeds, how to sprout them, how to consume them and their nutritional values - PM me with your request and your email addy.

One more thing then I will be silent for a while. Shampoo. My BFF was a hair stylist, and she told me to buy THE cheapest shampoo on the market, then add jhirmack distinctions silver plus, I have silver white hair. One bottle cheap, one bottle jhirmack then one bottle of water used to rinse out the cheap one, then rinse the jhirmack as best as you can. The cheap one being TRESemmé. I use a medicine cup from a cold medicine and put two squirts of thinned, mixed shampoo on my hair and that is more than enough to clean it. My squirt bottle is an emptied Aussie shampoo bottle. Used that mixed in with 2 of the jhirmack and water. Liquid Laundry detergent: use 1/3 to 1/4 of the *recommended* amount, depending on the amount of dirt/soil is on your clothing. The manufacturers want you to use their products - lots of their products. They really don't care if you use too much, that just means you will buy more. Reduce it down. Dilute it down.

Never heard of or have seen a Butane stove. Even after working in a hardware store for nearly 9 years. I have a Coleman Propane two burner cook stove, but now I will be getting two single burner Butane stoves along with the fuel. Thanks mirkwood. The next big money item on our list is a generator that can operate the two freezers (both are on the smallish side), the fridge and the microwave during a prolonged power outage. Will have the propane and butane burners for the rest of the cooking. As for food storage, about 5 years ago I bought over $300.00 worth of freeze dried, dehydrated and bulk foods. Discovered that the #10 cans of: Muffin Mix & Brownies were too expensive. There is just Hubby and myself, so the snack size of Marie Callendar's corn bread, brownies, & muffins in the packets were the right size and when purchased at the Dollar Store for a buck, or better yet at the Bi-Mart they often go on sale at $0.79 each. The #10 cans of potato pearls, again not a bargain. Bi-Mart, Walmart, Safeway often has Idahoan mashed potatoes in the packet for $1.00 or less. Want them to have a shelf life of nearly a millennia? get the Idahoan brand that you only add water to. That goes for any mix you get. If it contains fat [oil, lard, vegetable shortening, butter] it will eventually go rancid. The Buttery Idahoan mashed potatoes doesn't go rancid. They probably use dehydrated butter. Also if you are going to use the liquid from your canned vegetables as part of the water, go real easy with the liquid from corn. It alters the flavor a lot. More than Husband and I like. Yet the liquid from kitchen cut green beans is okay. I have even used the liquid from canned beets - that didn't bother either of us. Canned carrots are ridiculously soft - so I measure their liquid and add more water. As the water is coming to a boil, I mash the carrots up, add them to the potatoes that are in the boiling hot water/carrot juice then add the mashed carrots and whip it all together. Use the liquid from canned mixed vegetables to make a medium thickness 'white sauce', then add the canned vegetables to the sauce along with leftover diced cooked chicken, or turkey, or beef roast or pork roast. Add to pie crust in either one large pie pan or individual sized aluminum pie pans. Makes pretty good pot pies. Oh, you will have to season to taste. Pie crust ~ if you store boxed biscuit mix, seal it with a vacuum sealer. There is fat in that mix, and not only will it go rancid it will also attract bugs. Store flour in airtight containers, or better yet, seal it with a vacuum sealer. Even if you grind your own grains, I portion out my wheat grains in 3 pound bags, vacuum seal them, and store in air tight plastic totes stacked on pallets. Keep those totes OFF of the floor. Wish I had listened to Mirkwood better ~ buy what you eat. If you buy in bulk (not necessarily in the #10 cans), repackage it in sizes that you will use for one or two meals, and make that packaging vacuum seal. I have use three different brands of sealing - two of which were vacuum. The only one worth the money is FoodSaver. Once you repackage it will no longer be a convenient boxy package. So find a plastic container that will fit on the shelve where you want to store your item. Then fill it up with your re-packaged wheat grains, dry beans, lentils, etc. I bought a #10 can of shredded potatoes. This turned out to be a really good buy at the regular price. I repackaged it into vacuum seal bags **but stopped the vacuum sealing part way, then did the seal. If you go all the way when you do pasta, shredded potatoes or other crispy, crush-able dried foods, you will end up with dust when you finally open it. Husband and I really like Hungry Jack Dehydrated Shredded Potatoes. The boxes (four serving size) that I bought for $0.98 each are gone, and I can only get them now for $1.98 each. BUT the #10 can works out to like $0.52 for 4 servings. I also bought #10 cans of dehydrated whole eggs and dehydrated butter. The eggs have been repackaged into 4 serving pouches. The butter into 1 cup packets. Oh, haven't' even opened the honey powder. OH, another lesson I learned the HARD WAY is storing saltines. I only get the salted ones and buy them when they are $1.10 or less. Since I rearranged my kitchen, the extra boxes - 4 of them - got put on top of the cast iron skillets I seldom use. The skillets were seasoned with lard, then covered with parchment paper. Well, the lard went rancid and the flavor was absorbed through the parchment paper, the cardboard box and the wax paper sleeves. Moral to this story . . . seal two sleeves of crackers at a time with the FoodSaver, store in the uppermost cupboard above the refrigerator. Months and months ago Safeway was selling Buy 1 Get 2 Free of marinated skinless-boneless chicken breasts & boneless pork chops. I bought a lot, and tossed them into the freezer. The following week II would pull them out and seal them with the FoodSaver - vacuum sealing them in their original wrapper. Well, step-son was here for a week long visit and he said that he has had it with chicken meals. Opps, I vacuumed sealed the fresh chicken and pulled out the frozen pork chops. These were over 6 months old, yet they cooked up moist and tender and fortunately I only got lemon pepper marinaded ones. I think that if I had opened the packaging then did the vacuum seal, they probably would have got freezer burn. I treat my food storage and food pantry as though they are my own personal grocery stores. The kitchen cupboards are replenished from the pantry and storage. When I take the last from storage/panty, then I write it down in my day planner. Once a month when I sit at the computer and go online to the grocery stores, the day planner is right there in front of me. I make out my shopping lists, store by store. This is my monthly shopping, which lately has been costing us around $750.00 or more. On Thursdays or Fridays after that, I buy fresh salads, OJ, milk. Perishables that need to be replenished every other week or so. A few weeks ago, a Grocery Outlet Store opened up in the larger city- where all the rest of the grocery stores are. I stopped there first, shopped with my other grocery lists in hand. Bought $58.00 of food for only $21.96. On some of the items, I got larger bags of frozen stir fry veggies, canned corn & beans, & canned Campbell's Chicken Noodle soup for less than the regular size on sale at the other stores. One thing to note - canned fish and meats last longer then their Sell By Dates. Canned salmon, tuna, and sardines you can add 10 more years to. Canned meats: Spam, corned beef, roast beef and chicken add 10 years too. If you can't find the Use By, Sell By or Best By then a date, go online to the company that packaged it, like Hormel. Hunt around until you find Need Help or Contact Us, then ask them how do you find the dates on the cans. Believe me, they want to keep your business, so they aren't going to jerk you around. If in your email you put all of the codes you find on the ends (both if there are letters-n-numbers), they will explain what it all means. SAVE those emails. I printed mine out and put them in my household food storage 3 ring binder. Unfortunately said binder is in a box under three more boxes, behind three rows of more boxes. BUT I already have all my cans marked with a sharpie and stored in the cupboards with the oldest at the front. Rotate, Rotate, Rotate!! Okay, this has turned into a Tome, as is usual for me. Time to take a breather and soak my fingers & wrists in cold water.

Even Born In The Covenant members who generally get baptized at the age of 8 will at some point in their later life will have a conversion story, or in Other Words they will experience a Testimony of Gospel of Jesus Christ. I was introduced to the LDS church when I was 9 years old. I didn't get baptized until I was 14. At the age of 18 I left the church because I was shaken to my core by the malicious gossiping of a group of *Righteous* BIC Ladies in the RS. Thirty years later I re-activated myself. The Holy Ghost spoke to me, not only in a 'still soft voice', but also in a shout of "Listen to me will ya" voice, accompanied with a bop on the side of the head. Nearly five years later, after I had divorced Hubby #1 and married active LDS Hubby #2 and faced with the real possibility that Hubby #2 would pass on from hidden chemical dangers that he had been exposed to - THAT is when my testimony of the Gospel was true. That is when I knew beyond all earthly knowledge that the LDS church was THE church of Jesus Christ. There wasn't a single thing I could do to save my husband. I knew better than to make a plea bargain with God. So I put my everything into the Lord's hands. Yes I was angry - I had just found this man, I loved him nearly as much as I loved the Lord. It was the Lord Himself who guided us together. Now, after only 3.5 months He was going to take him from me???? NOT fair. I don't want this. BUT it is Your will, so give me the strength and the knowledge to accept Your will. Husband pulled through with LOTS of prayers and the best specialist in the US. That strength I prayed for - I really thought it would be for me to have when Hubby passed away. To 'gird up my loins' with to carry on. Well, it really was so that I would be able to deal with Hubby's weakness from the medical treatments that kept him alive. AND a few months later to have the physical, mental and SPIRITUAL strength to take care of his mother who had Alzheimer's and who was in a very unhealthy situation. So, just because you get baptized into the LDS church, that does not necessarily mean that you will have a conversion to the faith. Or have a testimony of the truth of the gospel. I have met BIC active to this day members who do not have a testimony or conversion to the church. My second oldest niece is one of them. My heart hurts, my soul mourns her decision to leave the church and to never teach her four children any more about the church. She will not allow them to go to church even though they want to. Even though they don't share her reasons for leaving. The three oldest are teenagers, the youngest was 7 when she and her husband left the church. I pray for the children. Every two weeks I submit their names to the Temple prayer list.

Because Carborendum didn't say that as their Home Teacher he was helping this ACTIVE in the LDS Church family move then he does NOT have stewardship over this family. Haul the case of beer and magazines out to the truck and say AND do nothing more. He could be storing the case of beer to use as trade goods in a SHTF situation, or to be used in the yard to kill slugs. As for the magazines, could have confiscated them from a young family member or friend and totally spaced it out that they were there. Why must *we* always assume the worst? During the summer I generally have a six pack of the cheapest canned beer the store offers. Why? To kill slugs with. It is way less harmful to the environment, and if other animals drink the beer - it makes them drunk,and seldom kills them. As for the magazines - I once bought a cheap storage chest full of books & magazines at a local used book sale that the High School was having. Included in with the magazines were about three years worth of Hustler. Bleh! I put them in a cardboard bankers box to put in the recyclables and totally forgot to do it. 8 years later when I moved to a different state there are those magazines. Finally tossed them into the burning barrel as we were loading the moving truck and burning paper that we couldn't shred. The LDS family that was helping me saw the top magazine then asked, Do you want the box to burn too ~ or just the trashy magazines? To this day I wonder what went to the dump 8 year earlier in place of the magazines??

I know that Chap, I should have quoted the other poster - HE should know better! THAT is one thing that is truly unique among LDS is the stating pretty much a person's full name. In all the LDS faith bases forums I am on, this type of abbreviation is generally what an anti uses.

Just a question here - - How many of us LDS are offended when someone refers to our Prophets, Seers, Revelators, Apostles, etc. in the LDS church by initials only, or by shortened versions (Br. Joe Smith when talking of Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr) of their names. The Elder U that is mentioned is actually President Dieter F. Uchtdorf Second Counselor in the First Presidency isn't it? Or are you referring to Elder Juan A. Uceda of the Seventy? Out of respect, please use the name and title that the Church refers to them by.

As a child growing up in a non-LDS home, halloween was a day to dress up, have chili, cornbread and lettuce wedges for dinner, then go around two blocks up, one block over and two blocks down knocking on doors and getting treats. My favorites were the cookies, rice krispies squares and chocolate bars. Then we finished the evening at one of the neighbors playing games, bobbing for apples, making popcorn balls, candied apples and racing to see who could peel an orange the fastest with out destroying the orange. Then when I was in Jr & Sr High, halloween was at the LDS church. We wore costumes that were theme related. The one where I won was the Germs theme. I was Mononucleosis. Later my nieces and nephews went to church to gather treats out in the parking lots of their Stake buildings. Trunk & Treat. What fun to witness that. Then inside there were booths for them to play at. I have always thought that halloween was a night to celebrate the harvest, that is how it was taught to me. That is how it came across in my teens at church.

Many, many years ago when I was living in outer darkness [my inactive years] I read an article in a one of the women's magazines about keeping a journal. The object was to validate oneself, to keep from going crazy, etc. So, as I sat in the near empty Tavern during the s l o w hours, I owned with my first husband, I started keeping a daily journal. Writing about the customers and how, over the years, their stories seldom changed. Wrote about the abuse I was living with and the movies/programs I was watching on satellite TV that showed me it was NOT a normal existence. My first husband had successfully alienated me from my former friends, so I really didn't have anyone to confide in. He mailed my letters - which in actuality he didn't, he read them then destroyed them. My Mom, who was not LDS, told me to tough it out, talk it out with husband. I was married for Better or Worse remember. This too shall pass. I really wasn't that honest with Mom, never told her of the abuse, which at the beginning was emotional and mental, and finally escalated to physical. So, here I am writing in a journal, and this controlling, manipulating spouse of mine, who reads my letters to my best friend and all of my family members then burns them, never once thinks to read them. The journal that is. I keep the journal close to me at all times. Under the mattress when I sleep, under the sofa where I sit. In the cupboard under the back-bar where I work in the tavern. They are 5-Star Mead 5 subject college ruled spiral bound notebooks. It never dawns on me to rip pages out, I just cross out and keep writing. When I separate & divorce hubby #1, I still keep the journals. My vague thoughts are to turn them into a book. When I meet and marry husband #2, I have the passing thought that I will hand them off to him, let him read them, then we can ceremoniously burn them. Life happens and for 6 years they are packed in a box that never gets unpacked. We move back to Oregon for retirement and for another 6 years they remain in the box. Before a friend comes for a summer visit, I flip the furniture in the large living room.[ Flip = moving the recliner, tv, rocking chair from near the front door to the opposite end, and move my desk, *office* stuff, coloring/sewing/needlepoint to near the front door. ] In doing so, I go through the boxes of unpacked items and find the journals. After my friend leaves I go through the journals. After all of these years I am still really not ready to read them. All of these years being 20 years, 12 of which have been with a loving, active priesthood holding man. Guess the wounds hubby #1 caused have not been completely healed by husband #2. I did find pictures that hubby #1 had missed in one of his drunken rages when he burned album after album along with boxes of my pictures. Not very many of the pictures are in the journals, but still enough to trigger enjoyable journey's down memory lane(s). Also found a letter from my little sister. WHAT a punch in the face that one is. I had had a phone conversation with her asking her to write to me with her memories of the trip when our parents moved them all from Seattle to South Dakota. I cannot remember reading this letter, yet there isn't an envelope - so I must have. Her letter is so full of lies. Why did I not see these lies when I first read it? She wrote it in 1997, during a time I was going through the worst of the abuse by hubby #1 that is why. I need to go visit my younger brother (who was there on the 'Exodus Back to Heaven' is how my Mom described it) and ask him of his memories. Also need to talk with the cousin who drove the rental moving truck, and whose father is Dad's brother. If our nieces, nephews, grand N's ever read this letter, they will think that it speaks of truths of a time in the life of my parents. The lies are so great, that I can't read the letter from start to finish in one sitting. I started to yellow highlight the lies, and the parts I need verifications for, then realized I needed to do more than just highlight - needed to make notes. So, in a bit [small season] I will scan it into my computer, and do the notes-n-highlights via the computer. Back to my journals ~ ~ In 1983 I went to Seattle to help my sisters care for my very ill mother. In 1981 we had brought Mom back to Seattle because her health was failing, and she no longer had children living close enough to care for her. During my down time from my *shift* with her, I was rummaging around in the basement rooms going through her boxes and found what I thought were my journals. Turned out Mom journal-ed in Mead spiral bound college ruled notebooks too. After spending several hours gathering all of her journals (packed into about 6 moving boxes and equaling about 1 bankers box worth of them) I put them in order and preceded to read them. Journal #1 started the same exact way my 1st journal did. She had read the same article, in the same woman's magazine but it was decades earlier than when I had read it. She read the magazine in the Dr's office as she was waiting for her appointment, then asked if she could take the magazine home. She was kind enough to actually include the entire magazine in with her 1st journal. When I finally got home, I scrounged around and found the magazine I had read. Same article, published decades later in the same magazine. I really don't think I will be keeping these early journals of mine - there is just too much in them that I am not very proud of. My desperate thoughts of killing my spouse to be rid of him. My plans on leaving him, and then NOT doing it. I do need to read them again, then ceremoniously burn them. Hubby #1 has passed away, his only son believes his Dad was a good person and there is no one but me left alive to tell him the truth. My journals are a witness to the truth. Let him believe his Dad was good, there is no good to come from educating him. The Dad he knew was the man he spent the last 2.5 years of his life with. Perhaps he was a good man by then. The journals I keep now are on a computer program that I purchased from the same company that makes RootsMagic - it is called Personal Historian. As much as I loved writing on paper with a pen, my poor neuropathic hands can no longer do that and have what has been written be legible.

Oh, you are so right! Though I never ate it myself, but just the aroma is enough to do that. My ex husband ate it with pretty much every meal. Our local grocery here in Oregon stocked it just for him! One case a month is what he went through. A neighbor of ours here in Oregon, sent me the receipe when she moved to Hawaii. Said she got it from her Japanese landlords. My mother-in-law gave me the hot peppers to put in it. That stuff stunk our house up for ever! After making it once, I deferred it to her, so she could make it and stink her house up!

Thanks a BUNCH Pam, now you woke him up!

Accidentally let my Kindle Fire go dead twice - now I check it on Saturday afternoon to make sure it is charged for Sunday. Husband uses his Kindle Fire all the time. He plays spider solitaire on it while it is plugged in charging! We just got him a new AT&T phone free from AT&T cause his 2G is not going to be *something or the other* [whatever ], when I ordered in via the phone, the AT&T Manager told me to charge it up, then let it die, charge - repeat for three times. Then charge before it dies again. The battery will last years this way. I was told this also by the clerk at Walmart when I bought my AT&T to Go Z432.

The Gospel Principles teacher should be able to GIVE you a copy of the Gospel Principles book. If you can't afford to purchase a quad - ask your Bishop if the Ward will purchase one for you. When I came back into activity after a 30 year absence, I attended Gospel Principles classes during the week (taught by the Senior Missionary couple assigned to my Branch) because my Branch President didn't want me to miss out on attending Gospel Doctrine classes that were taught at the same hour. My oldest sister gave me her mini-quad, but once my divorce was final and the ex paid me for my share of the property we owned and that he sold, I bought myself a quad that I could actually see to read.

Not really, the odd looks I get from people when I fail to shave off the splotches of fine, white *whiskers* makes me say MEN only, and for heavens sake, keep it clean and trimmed nicely. BTW I am a 64 yo female.

My sisters had not only a Bishop with a beautiful, white Santa Clause type beard, but also their Patriarch and Stake President had beards. Stake Presidents beard was the same as his wonderful Ginger Red head hair. The Patriarchs was steel grey. I miss the section in the Ensign called: I have a question. I would love to ask when and by whom did this No Beard policy come into effect???? It is lame, stooopid, and the only beard policy should be: Men only, kept clean and neatly trimmed.

I would then opt with NightSG or un-invite MIL. You don't need to subject yourself, your children and your other guests to her toxic behavior.

HiJolly! It is great to see you again. Welcome back - where the hey/hay have you been???

Have you sat down with her with her son present and told her that her behavior is UN-acceptable and will no longer be tolerated. Oh, yeah, she is in another state, so write her a letter to that effect. Quote scriptures to each rule if you can - be sure to include scriptures from the Book of Mormon, D&C AND the Peal of Great Price. Quote any/all of the Articles of Faith too. Give her the house rules and give her an out. Mom In Law, if you are unable to abide by our house rules [which even our children, and their Grandfather & Step-Grandma easily abide by] then please stay at home. We no longer will subject our selves and our children - your grandchildren, to your un-Christ like histrionics.

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This is what I am referring to https://www.lds.org/youth/article/only-true-living-church?lang=eng Only True Church. Perhaps you left out the ly and substituted e.

In my opinion, those who are humble, regardless of their chosen faith, are that way because they have been taught this by their humble parents. My mother was raised by a mother who was a member of the Congregationalist Church. Grandma was a humble woman, Daddy was raised in the Lutheran Church and he was a humble man. I never knew his parents as they had passed away long before I was born. Together they taught all of their children to be humble, all but one learned well. Us children were introduced to the LDS Church in 1960 - and from then until 1968 were baptized into the LDS church. Dad passed in 1972. Mom got baptized in 1974. So this humbleness is something that is taught by the parents regardless of religious affiliation. As a member of the LDS church, and knowing about the plan of salvation, and heeding the prophets, should enable one to be even more humble as we strive to obey the Lord's commandments. A question for you Zarahemla, where on earth did you get the phrase: ". . . one true church and having ordinances been done,," ? underlining by me. Never in my 56 years in the church have I EVER heard that said regarding the LDS faith.