Iggy

I too have PAF, I love it. But because it is no longer supported, had to move on. I went to Roots Magic.https://www.rootsmagic.com/ I have their Personal Historian program. That is a journal on your computer. Love it, Love it, Love it. At the time I purchased Roots Magic, they were running a special for those who are LDS - It wouldn't have mattered, I would have paid full price. Now that I have it installed, it looks so much like PAF. It is just as easy to work in it too.

Ditto to all that has been said already. Great answers. Want to add that being Mormon is a 24/7 faith. We: Eat, Breathe, Love, Bleed, Study, Teach, Dress, Walk and Talk our faith every hour, every day. Not just on Sundays &/or religious holidays &/or at births and deaths. It is not an easy religion to live. For me it is easy to believe in, never had a problem with that really. Living it, now that was hard at one point.

Spouse is my second husband, we married 11 years ago - so no children. But he does have a son and daughter from his 1st marriage. 1st hubby had a vasectomy before we met, so no children there either. Relationship: We are married. We are sealed for eternity. We are equals in everything other than gender, height, weight and educations. Hubby reads tech books & Mahatma Gandhi. He has way more education than I do. I read nearly anything except Mahatma Gandhi, Stephen King and super gory, mutilate. possess children type of books. I graduated High School with a 3.8 gpa. When we read scriptures together, he gleans a different message than I do - so in sharing this we both become better. Our life's lessons are different too, and they add to our relationship. He is oh so slow to come to anger or be offended, I am the opposite. [my siblings tell all that I have a savage tongue and am quick to cut others that have offended me into tiny bits] BUT after 11 years I have learned to NOT voice my anger or offense - keep it in until I get home, then I can vent. He encourages me to power up the computer, open MS Word and pour out my anger, hurt, to ignore the misspelled words until I am done. Once I am through, then I can either print it out and let him read it or just delete the entire thing. If he feels that the person(s) who brought this on needs to hear from me - then he edits, I re-write, he edits some more, I re-write some more, etc., etc. The result is that more often than not the entire thing gets deleted. Yes, husband is my better half and I am his better half. We compliment each other. We learn from each other. We teach each other. He has his strengths and I have mine. One thing of note: My first husband was not liked by children or most animals. This fact never really registered until I married hubby #2. Children flock to him. In church even the toddlers crawl to him and want him to pick them up. The primary children as well as the teens seek him out. When he substitute teaches the Youth SS - the participation is phenomenal. I get feed back from the parents relating what their teens say of him. My two cats do not like people. My female cat doesn't even like me that much. I am okay with this, and have been okay with this. I love my two cats unconditionally. I told Hubby #2 that if my cats didn't like him, meaning they were totally nasty to him aka hissing, snarling, etc. then we were not going to get married. Within 10 minutes of Hubby coming into my house, female cat was up in his lap! Male cat loves me, wants me to hold and snuggle him. He loved Hubby #2 from the get-go. All animals like me, even though I do not like them. I am gentle with them, towards them and am ecstatic that they belong to others. Husband was amazed that I not only know how to use power tools that are considered men's tools, but came into the marriage with them. Plus I know how to use other power tools that are considered women's tools, and came into the marriage with them. I also came into our marriage with 6 months of food storage. Hubby is at ease and comfortable in his own skin. He is not threatened by my skill with men's power tools or my ability to do the inside of the house plumbing. I can do the interior electrical - but he is trained, knowledgeable and skilled in that arena so I willingly defer to him. He is also better at microwaving foods. He defers to me in the cooking arena, but I always ask him how long to cook new foods in the microwave. Even though I know he has never cooked them before, he know exactly how long they should cook. God is the head of our household. When he told his children this only his daughter had a problem with that. They are not LDS. His son holds no religious views at all. "It's not for me Pop" is all he said. His daughter is Calvary Chapel. They teach that Mormon's are evil, etc. Since her second visit to our home, she has learned that when she bad mouths our faith she gets kicked out of the house. She can communicate with her father via phone or email, but she will never be allowed inside of our home. We don't bash her faith, she is not to bash ours. We gave each child copies of the Book of Mormon, Gospel Principles, Pearl of Great Price and I highlighted the Articles of Faith. Told them to read them and then they would know what we stand for. Son read them and passed the books on to his wife and then on to his uncle, Hubby's next younger brother. Daughter had her hubby read them, then the three oldest kids asked to read them. When her oldest boy wanted to read them, she burned them. When he turns 18 we will send him a Quad so he can see what his Grandfather is all about. Hubby's next younger brother often asks question regarding the Gospel Principles book. They have some wonderful discussions about it, as well as about the other books. Nest Younger is a Baptist, but he is not a practicing one. He only did it because he felt he had to be baptized, and that is where he should have it done. He was 17 at the time.

Let's hope the hired DJ plays Church approved music- When I lived in AZ, the one and only Stake youth dance that I went to [was the YW Secretary and was told it was mandatory that I attend] the Stake President went to the DJ table and removed nearly all of the music, was not church approved. He also removed the YW leaders from one of the other wards, they were not dancing - they were doing the bump/grind mating dance [ho boy did I ever clean THAT one up] - so not church approved. I have been around the block more than once myself- been inactive for 30 years, did THAT bump & grind myself, but NEVER in public, only for the man I was married to at the time - and THEY embarrassed me!

Here is a link that looks helpful: http://www.offthegridnews.com/off-grid-foods/how-to-stockpile-full-meals-for-emergency-situations/ Also, this link: http://www.thekitchn.com/simple-nonalcoholic-substitutes-for-red-and-white-wine-tips-from-the-kitchn-184394 gives non-alcoholic substitutes for wine in cooking. I get the 8oz -11.5 oz bottles/cans of each of the juices to use just for cooking when possible. My girlfriend cans her own spaghetti sauce and grinds her own beef to go in it. She prefers it coarser and leaner than what you get in the stores. She cooks it in the trimmed off fat to add the flavor, then when she drains it, she removes the cooked fat chunks. She leaves one bay leaf in each quart jar - whoever gets the leaf, has to do the dishes. One more thing to do before cooking and pressure canning: Soak your beans, lentils, etc. in cold plain water overnight or a minimum of 8 hours, drain in morning, rinse well, then let sit in the colander until the next day. In Other Words - let them sprout. The beans will lose 75% of their flatulence power and all of the beans will gain 75% more nutritional value. With the beans (kidney, navy, etc.) toss the soaking water. That is where the *flatulence* went into. I water my outside plants with it.

The Martian 3D, The problem we had with this was the 3D was The. Worst. Ever. I watched without the glasses, and never could read the words. Husband kept the glasses on and got a killer headache. I like the story, liked the actors, and laughed heartily at the size of the duct tape roll. There were 11 people watching in the theater, and we all complained during the movie that it wasn't focused in properly. I went three times to complain. We grouped together and waited 15 minutes for the manager to show up in the lobby. 11 Senior citizens waiting. We moved the padded benches into a grouping (away from the wall along the way to the other theaters) so we could be comfortable. We were given free tickets to any show at any of the theaters (4 were visitors to our town) that are good for a year. Dollar amount $20.00 per ticket. We didn't get the senior discount because it was a 3D movie.

This made me smile. Mom's brother was a cop. Worked at the Cherry Street station in Seattle. When I went *downtown* on the bus, I always went to the *Cop Shop* to meet up with Uncle, we would go to lunch with some of the guys. They would tell me stories of parents of wayward kids bringing those kids in and asking to have them put behind bars to teach them lessons. What they did was put the kids in the interrogation rooms, and then putting the parents behind bars. After about an hour, they then asked the parents do you really want your son/daughter to experience what you just did?? Back then, 1968ish there really wasn't any place to go to learn how to be a better parent. The cops recommended that the entire family go to a church of their church. Be active in school and school sports. Listen to their children. I loved my Uncle. He was T.H.E. coolest man alive, other than my own Dad. As to being spied on by parents - I am their child. It is their house, their clothes that I am wearing, their food I am eating. As long as my diary they have just read is not made fodder for the family dinner table or over the backyard fence gab fest with the neighbors - then have at it. How else are they going to learn that eldest brother is knocking me around, or eldest sister takes wicked delight in scrubbing my neck with the brush meant for scrubbing the cement steps. I have moles on my neck - NOT dirt. Also, how else are they going to learn that my spelling needs improvement? They have 6 other kids to keep up with, and I am the quietest. Also, that diary of my that they read has drawings in it that I drew. No way they matched the drawings on the walls going up the stairs. Those were done by next older sister. Just get her diary out and compare the drawings. Oh, not a single interior door had a lock on it. Not even the bathrooms. My oldest brother attempted to put one on. The hook kind. After myself and next younger sister wet ourselves because he locked us out while he was taking a bath, Dad fixed the door. He used small screwdriver between the door and jamb, opened the door, then removed the entire door. Removed oldest brothers bedroom door too. Mom and Grandma rigged up an old twin sheet curtain across the bathroom door. We didn't have a shower, just a tub. But there was an opaque shower curtain across the tub for privacy when we took a bath. With 12 people in the house, and only two toilets, no locks on those doors. The downstairs toilet was in a creepy room. I refused to use. Same for the three younger sibs under me. The age thing: 18 is the legal voting age. Any person 18 or older is considered an adult by the legal system, and no longer under the parent. So if my oldest brother at the age of 18, broke the law and still lived at home, our parents would not be held legally responsible.

Make your home more friendly to the Holy Ghost. Bless your home, or you can have your Bishop(ric) or Home Teachers bless it. In your car, before you even step foot in your house, pray and ask Father to banish the adversary from you and from your home. Play inspiring music, http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product3_715839595_10557_3074457345616706445_-1__195672 Yes I know that you are in Sweden, but the link is just to show you what I mean. Lately, because have had to care for my husband - he is obese and uses a walker to get around and he is suffering from gout in his wrists & ankles - I have not tended to the house. Needs vacuuming badly, laundry is piling up, dirty dishes are everywhere in the kitchen, even stacked on the floor. I don't want to come home after attending church alone. When I do get home, I am too tired and too hungry to even consider fixing a meal. Hubby won't let me get help from the RS - so, I will practice what I have preached - clean the house even though the noise disturbs Hubby. It is still warm and nice outside, he can put on a jacket and two pairs of socks and sit on the porch. I can also ask for help from the RS - someone or two to help with the laundry and vacuuming. I will do the dishes, that is my most embarrassing mess. BUT the most important part - - prayer to banish the adversary, give us the energy to clean our home, and ask that the Holy Ghost come into our home and stay.

Not necessary, I'm done

One of the major things about Pam Stenzel is she states that there are two things that come from not saying no to premarital sex. STD's are the number one. And she lists ALL of them [more than 20] and how they effect the FEMALE body mostly. Then there is pregnancy. She also levels the responsibilities on both the males and females. One of the things that stands out the most to me was her no nonsense stand: Are you married? No, then you don't have sex. Are you engaged? Yes, then you don't have sex. Are you afraid of losing him as a boyfriend? Yes, then you don't have sex. Get the message here? When you are married, then you do have sex, and only with your husband/wife. Fidelity. I do believe that if my niece had been shown this DVD, and had her parents talked openly and frankly to her, she wouldn't have been promiscuous.

Where did I say that the parents should NOT be THE major part of the child watching and learning? I stand on what I said. I stand on the fact that Pam Stenzel is amazing and her message parallels the Church's teachings on chastity, abstinence and total fidelity in marriage.

What a ____________ view Vort. Check out Pam Stenzel first before you make such accusations.

Back in 2001 or 2002 our Stake President purchased Pam Stenzel's http://www.pamstenzel.com/ video tape and had each of the Bishop's/Branch President show it to their members. He left it up to each one to decide how to include ALL of the members. Parents/Adults first, then let the parents take the tape home and watch with their children. Parents first, then the youth with their parents. Our Branch president chose to show the Parents/Adults first, then the youth with the parents in attendance - but the parents all in the back of the room. He chose the tape geared with religion in mind, knowing full well that Ms Stenzel is catholic. As a librarian I have recommended this tape to all the parents of young men/women in our branch. Several of the parents, who have primary aged children have purchased the newer DVD of hers. I purchased the newer DVD and sent it to my SIL when my nephews and niece were nearing their 12th birthday (the oldest that is). She showed it to the boys prior to them being ordained in the Aaronic PH. She and my brother talked to each of them explaining the LDS point of view (which really isn't that much different than the catholic point of view). They failed to show it to their third child, my niece. She strayed from the church, got pregnant, that pregnancy ended up in a miscarriage and then she ended up with some pretty nasty STD's. Don't know if showing her the DVD on the eve of her 12th birthday would have done any good - but we will never know.

THAT is not about the lunar eclipse or blood moon!!~!

At the end of the day, it is up to your Primary Presidency AND your Bishopric Counselor & Bishop as to what order you conduct your primary. Your Stake Primary Presidency are there to help and guide you and support you in your calling.

I have checked lds.org for this alleged statement by the Mormon church. It is just that: alleged. So in answer to your two questions: 1.) accurate journalism? NO 2.) rumor and speculations convincing? NO Rumors have never been nor should they ever be convincing. Lunar eclipses have been occurring since the creation of Earth with her moon. Same as with solar eclipses.

My husband feels the same as you. It isn't always PH giving blessings who receive blessings. I have received blessings after I did acts of charities. I used to never ask for help from my VT or my Ward/Branch until my dearest friend/unofficially adopted sister/unofficial foster mom told me that by not asking and not accepting the help I was denying them their blessings that would be heaped upon them by Father. One thing I learned when I willingly and graciously accepted help and service from others, I, in turn, found more ways to help and serve others.

Ooh, I like that word.

To the OP: In my opinion, give him a year at least. Sustain his calling always. Then if you still feel the same, go to him and ask permission to go to a different ward. Your reasons could be simply stated that it is too awkward separating him as Bishop from him as supervisor. On a side note; I had a very difficult boss to work for. When she found out that I was LDS she made working for her a misery. Before I left her employ, I prayed every morning for the strength to go to work. For the banishment of the adversary, for her heart to be softened and for the PATIENCE that the Lord knew I needed to deal with my boss. She was a good woman, a superb business woman. She just had they typical skewed view of the LDS Church. I was on the lookout for a new job, and a year later when the opportunity presented itself I gave her my notice and when she asked why I was leaving I was soooo tempted to NOT tell her that her personal attitude regarding my faith was the reason. I told her. She was stunned to say the least. I also told her that had she left her personal feelings about my church outside the doors of work like I had asked her to shortly after I came back to the LDS faith, then I would never have looked for a different job. She asked me what would it take to keep me there? Keep your anti-LDS barbs out of the work place. Well she said: That is who I am. I went on to my new job. Back to topic: Husband and I quit going to church after a new bishop gave us grief when we were in the process of removing Husbands mother from a degrading and unhealthy home situation. She had Alzheimer's, and lived in another Ward's boundaries. We went to our bishop for help. He was extremely rude to us. In hind sight, we should have gone to the Stake President. He would have gently explained that Mom's bishop is who we should be going to. He has the stewardship. We used our tithing amount to pay to get Mom a Dr., clothes and the plane ticket to middle brothers home so he could be her caregiver. If we hadn't of used that money, we would have had to go get a loan. Then husbands hours at work changed making it impossible for him to go to our assigned ward. Because of our Bishops cold attitude towards us, we just stayed away. We went to the Ward, whose hours coincided with our work hours, but we really didn't feel welcomed at all. Again, in hindsight ~ we should have prayerfully & humbly gone to our bishop and expressed our feelings. I did that here with the last Branch President we had. I felt a lot of animosity from him. So rather than let that feeling fester I went to him. He claimed that he wasn't against or hostile against/to me. His actions and words continued to be the same towards me. BUT because I constantly included him in my prayers, and asked Father to soften my heart towards my Branch President, his crappy attitude no longer affected me. I continued to sustain him in his calling. There was no way, either Hubby or I was going to let a socially inept Branch President chase us away from attending in our assigned meetinghouse.

My sisters Ward is Newly Married - Nearly Dead aka seniors, empty nesters and the the newly married. This also includes those who live near the University of Washington. One young couple, new converts of barely a year were quite different. They wore mostly black, dark purple clothing. She wore tie up the calves heavy soled black boots and the only splash of color would be a beanie/railroad/or short brimmed hat and or a scarf in wild colors. He only wore black. Oh, and she never wore a dress or a skirt. They were pierced: one on the side of the nose, both eyebrows, and from the lobes of their ears and then marching up the side of each ear. They wore rings on every finger too. You never knew what color hair they would have and they both had *butchered* cuts. They just took a swath of hair and cut it to whatever length struck them - all over their heads. Not a swath would be the same length. The first time I saw them was a week before Christmas and they were wearing a tree light bulb fashioned into an earring. Different color to each ear. My sister said, after introducing them to me and they had gone in to sit in the Chapel: They dance to the same drummer and the same tune, as us - just a bit different beat. When they had their first child, the face jewelry came out and by the time their third baby was born so had all the extra ear jewelry. My sister says their still wear the same style clothes and the beat of their *music* hasn't changed at all. They moved into the *Family* ward in the same Stake when baby #1 was ready for Nursery. Our Branch has several members who also * Dance* to the same drummer, yet their *beat* is different than the norm. As soon as I can find a seamstress - my *beat* is going to change a wee bit too. I will forgo the dresses and skirts of the *normal* woman and start wearing super wide legged slacks. I am so very tired of the cold wind often times mixed with rain, blowing up my skirts - no matter that the hem length reaches my ankles!

When we had the memorial service for my MIL half the people were LDS the other half were not. We chose music that was straight out of the hymnal - plus three of the sisters who are also members of the local Sweet Adelines, sang a song as a tribute to her. Our Bishop wasn't going to allow it, then the Stake President stepped in and said that it was okay. Hubby went to school from 3rd to 12th grade with the Stake President and all of his family. The music is really for the family - and since it is being played in the LDS Meetinghouse Chapel there are rules to follow. https://www.lds.org/music/index/hymns/topic?lang=eng#d scroll down to funeral. Since her father is a Bishop, ask him what he and his wife would like to hear. At my sisters memorial, our youngest brothers children (four ranging in age from 11 to 6) sang A Child's Prayer, https://www.lds.org/music/library/childrens-songbook/a-childs-prayer?lang=eng A Cappella. That primary song was my sister's all time favorite. note: she served in Primary for over 30 years. With no breaks.

I live on the coast of Oregon, and we are getting some smoke - we are also praying for good strong winds coming off the ocean. Half my family lives in the fire zones. They have all been evacuated out, then allowed to return during the day, evacuated out at night- repeat. My Uncle is 77 and he says he is getting too old & stove up to be sleeping on a cot in some high school hallway. They won't let him bring his two dogs, or his three horses either. Thankfully, his grandkids came and got the animals - but he and my Aunt refuse to go with them. What does he think his staying is going to do?? Save the house? He is too far away to keep looters and vandals away - stubborn man. Don't have any help about the smoke - wear a surgical mask? Filters for your AC? Here I was wishing we had a fan on our furnace - where you can flip a switch on the furnace and have fan only - BUT that circulates outside air. Have you called your home extension office to ask them what to do? Fire department non-emergency number?

You were in her home and visited her in her hospital room? Really? I don't recognize you from the picture you have.

Seriously - no she didn't, she drank and ate herself to that excessive weight. BUT that is not the point of my post. The soda drinks WERE the fault of her dehydration. You were not there to witness it.

Then don't. lol