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Different post on a different topic. On the idea of UBI...I'm not sure what I think thus far. Some experiments have shown that it works to create a better economic boost....but I would imagine it's the same type of boost you see around military bases. The influx of money from the government at cities where military bases are helps the economies of those areas. It's one reason why some see military bases as desireable for their local economies, both nationally and internationally. In that same light, suddenly giving a bunch of people government money may have the same result. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea though to go all in on a national scale. That may actually cost more money than it brings in. I'm not sure what I think of it yet. A better program would be that which the Lord instituted, but there are problems with that program as well. In this program each person is given what they need. Their needs are met. They have enough food, housing, and clothing, but no one is given excess. In return, everyone works and does labor. It doesn't matter if you are the ditch digger, or the CEO, everyone is given the same amount as per their needs. There is no stratification in this type of order where one gets more simply because they have more education, or they have the "better" job, or they come from a "better" family...etc...etc..etc. Hence...the problems of running it in our modern day. It's similar to what Joseph Smith ran into with Missouri. In Freshmen classes of philosophy and History we teach an idea of virtue vs. greed. To run the program as described, it requires virtue. Everyone must be willing to help out society simply because that's what they want to do. They can't be thinking of their own selfish desires...or the program will not work. The problem is that people are inherently greedy, and that greed disrupts the program above. The best program is if everyone was virtuous, or cared more about society and their neighbor. Then all would work, but no one would necessarily be given more than another simply because they wanted it. Everyone would be given as per their needs...not necessarily their wants. UBI isn't this. Until we all become Christlike, I don't think the Law of Consecration and the United Order will work all that well either. The best it ever ran was under Brigham Young, but even then, you slowly saw it deconstructed as people wanted to have what the rest of the US was having and to get gain where they could enjoy the pleasures of the world. After a few decades, they were no longer living under those rules and other regulations came to be.

UBI is sort of practiced in the US already by a very Socialistic program (perhaps the Only TRUE socialistic program in the United States. It is completely socialist in many ways. This organization does NOT actually provide or produce any credible goods, does not create anything more out of it's labor than what it is given out of the taxes that fund it, and is a key on how socialized medicine, housing, and other items in the US might work if we turned completely socialistic as they are). This program is the United States Military. It is ironic how many of them live in a socialistic society but are, they, themselves, against socialism or having anyone else live in that type of society. No matter what the rank, they receive a minimum amount of money no matter what they are doing as long as they are not criminally charged (via military justice). They have housing either supplied, or they are given a housing allowance. They have free medical care given (or mandatory medical care in some cases). The DO protect our interests abroad, though they haven't really been called up to protect us from an attack on the mainland for many years. Thus, as far as something that produces money...the military doesn't actually have a positive product produced. The money that is spent is money they gain from what is given to them by the US government. If Taxation is stealing, and then that stolen money is given to fund an organization like the military...what do you call the people living off of that "stolen" money? Would they be Thieves??? For some reason, I don't feel comfortable with this line of thought, but if we TRULY are going to say that taxation is theft, than that money is stolen money and those who are funded for their entire occupation and lives would be the ones who are living off that stolen money? I think this is a dumb line of conversation. Taxation isn't THEFT anymore than the military is made up of a bunch of parasites that live off of society without producing any products that actually create value to that society in general. Neither is true. Both are part of what we would a social contract. (Add to that idea, that the government basically forced a bunch of us to serve many decades back...where draftees were paid but most of them would rather have not been in the military and been back at home instead). ---------------------------------------------------------- The Government cannot rule without the consent of the governed. Thus, what the government does is allowed by those over whom it governs. Taxes are part of that social contract. I don't like many of the taxes today, but paying them is part and parcel of how the government is supported in order to run the programs it does. These programs (such as the military, welfare/medicare/medicaid, social security...the three biggest items which draw money from our goverment today) are run by the government. If we do not LIKE how these things are done, it is up to us, in our Democratic Republic to make that known to those who represent us. If they don't represent us, it is up to us to try to elect someone else. IF we can get enough people to agree to our ideas, then such ideas can go forth. If NOT enough people agree, or have different ideas, it probably will go nowhere. These program then are seen as public goods. They produce NOTHING of value inherent to a capitalistic society, in that no monetary good that can be sold for profit is produced. HOWEVER, the government in utilizing these programs produces a net positive on society. There are different purposes behind these net goods, even though from a monetary point of view, they detract, rather than add to, the amount of physical products being created. The Military obviously is there in case we are attacked. They are there to defend us. It is not a constant need, but it exists as a backup so we don't have to scramble to build up a military (as we have in past times) if something happens. In addition, we use the Military to project force and hence push our Diplomatic goals across the globe. Social Security is there so we don't have our old folks starving to death in the streets. It was supposed to be SUPPLEMENTAL income, but many use it as their primary souce of income today. This is to make it so when people get old and feeble they have a way to eat. Similarly, Military and government retirement is to ensure that those who have served our nation are able to be housed and eat rather than become homeless and starving after their service is done. This is normally seen as a social good, even if it produces no physical product in return. Medicare and Medicaid is seen to try to also provide for these people (along with Tricare...which some see as a branch of this). Welfare is also a back up to try to keep those who are unable to do so, fed and sometimes housed. The reasons for these ideas of social goods go back to WHY we have governments in the first place. Originally, people grouped together for safety and to be able to produce more together than one individual could do alone. Eventually, when these groups of people got large enough, some sort of organization on HOW to run the social contracts between people needed to be created. In this, people agreed to certain things among each other for a common good. That good could be defense, trade with each other (money in today's terms), and other items which may not be a product in and of themselves, but are seen as beneficial to society. This is...a social good. The problem then comes on how to FUND these social goods. There must be a way to make sure that those weapons bought for us to use against invaders, the storage spaces used to store our food, and other things are paid for. Someone came up with the idea that everyone donates a little to the common good (aka...taxes) and hence...we can fund these things. Taxes are part of that social contract. It is part of why we live together in a society, because together we are stronger than we are individually. AS the lord says.... Not that I LIKE to pay taxes, but taxes are not necessarily theft. NOW...OVERLY taxing people is seen as wrong in scripture...but taxes in an of themselves...are not necessarily theft.

It sounds more like a slow descent into anarchy. Similar to what happens when empires or great nations fall apart. People may be most familiar with one of the most famous Western empires faultering, or the Roman Empire. It slowly retreated it's borders until most of Europe was held by a bunch of independent tribes and such. For a while it was chaotic as well.

Not necessarily with the App, but with the church's streaming services. I had great difficulties with it during Conference. I thought it may have been that everything they were streaming was trying to be in 4K and didn't want to stream in anything less? Or at least extremely high Def? That takes a LOT of bandwidth and/or processing power. I've noticed that both BYU TV and the church's streaming stuff seem to be having difficulties recently with the internet, or at least the internet in my area. When I watch their videos via Youtube or other resources they do just fine. It may be area focused??? Company we get our data or streaming from? I've had some problems similar to the First Post as well in the past two to three months. It also seems to eat up a lot of energy...not sure what is causing it, so I'm not good at giving a solution.

Algorithm. That's my guess. I haven't been getting a lot of these as suggestions.

I've heard of Angel Studios! I didn't know Daily Wire made movies until this thread. I'd probably vote more for Angel Studios than Daily Wire from what I've read here and that trailer above.

Nothing I say in this post is doctrine...most of it is just posting on how it may have been. When Lucifer first tried to gain power it was not through an act of war, but an attempt at deception. His deception was to try to fool his father and everyone else. The idea was that the plan as put forth didn't need to happen, that if he were given the power to do so, he could save everyone instead. The hidden purpose of this was to gain the ultimate power and glory for himself to rule over everyone else. The Lord and our Father saw through this plan. First, the adversaries plan, in effect would prevent everyone else from attaining celestial glory. It would not be possible under his plan. He could save people from outer darkness, but his plan precluded the ability to give them everything. The plan of salvation does not promise to give everyone exaltation, only that it is POSSIBLE. It also saves almost everyone from outer darkness as well, just not 100% as Lucifer promised. The fact that the adversaries plan prevents us from being joint heirs is a massive flaw in the plan. Secondly, it was obvious that because of how he positioned himself, Lucifer would be the only one to gain that type of power that our Father has, and in essence be able to try to fight him on a much greater level once his deception was revealed. His plan was not to actually save anyone, but to get power enough to overthrow his father and then rule over everything else. His deception was revealed and then the war began. It is a war for our souls and as such, it is whether the children of our Father will choose to follow the Adversary or our Father and his Son. We are given our free agency to choose. The Adversary knows that with the power that he has been granted, even though it is immense, he cannot overthrow our Father. There is no way for him to win in the end. He fights, because it has already been decided. If he cannot win, he will take as many of us as it is possible and if he cannot drag us down with him, he will try to do all he can to diminish what we can accomplish, or barring that, make our lives as miserable as possible. It's like the Japanese at the end of World War 2. They knew they had no chance of winning at that point. Why didn't they surrender? Because it was not in their nature to do so at that point. They would rather DIE than surrender. In fact, even as the Emperor decided to surrender, there were the generals that tried to assassinate him to prevent that, because they would rather die than accept surrender. The adversary knows he has lost...but he is still going to do what damage he can to the rest of his family because that is his nature.

On #1 - I don't think so. Considering it's mostly Americans (who think America is the ONLY nation in the world) who complained as loudly as they did and fought against masks, vaccines, and quarantines as strongly, I expect it will turn out very differently in history (at least long term). IF America's reach declines (as most empires do) or the Second Coming happens and people around the world are taken more seriously, those who dislike science and try to spread their own (by claiming that only the US exists and that every other nation and their scientists are wrong, or flat out ignore that the other nations even exist and how they were handlng the pandemic or the suggestions internationally were going as well as the studies internationally) ideologies will probably have their own voice diminished as well...I expect a very different story will emerge. 1. Vaccines actually work. That those who were vaccinated or survived the initial Covid hit (and yes, MILLIONS died from Covid, which many Americans still try to ignore...but mostly the far right) did create a mass immunization which helped reduce the effects of later strains of Covid (thus far) showing that yes...science actually is correct. 2. If America declines and Asia comes to predominence, Showing that the Asian method of wearing masks when sick actually are a better idea than the Far Right's strategy in the US of not wearing masks...AND that those who don't wear masks were irresponsible individuals that (if justice is in heaven) may want to be worried about a final judgement where the deaths of others caused by flagrant disregard may be a considering factor . (and yes, masks are STILL something used in Asia in many nations, especially when one is sick. This isn't a matter of whether one wears it when they have Covid, but when one is sick in general. Some also wear it due to pollution and other effects in the air). 3. IF the lawsuit is successful, all it will do is probably make it so if something like this ever happens again, Texas gets no vaccines and companies refuse to do business with Texas. Texas is large, but they aren't so large that they outnumber all the other nations of the world. Other nations will pursue science, even if Texas does not. Sort of reminds one of North Africa in the 17th and later centuries. They had been part of a very advanced civilization and at the forefront of science at one point, but due to political and social ridiculous attitudes they rejected many of these and then got colonized by those who actually had a greater advancement in science then they did. 4. As politically, this site normally aligns to the FAR right (and ironically, the LDS church does NOT. In fact, though there is a greater percentage of Conservative members in Utah, I think a recent study showed that it was nearly 50/50 for Conservative/Liberal outside of Utah/Idaho/Arizona...with women being around a 25/75 Conservative/Liberal when under the age of 25 outside of Utah...meaning politically I don't think this site actually represents what members of the church feel in general) I expect this post to be taken VERY poorly overall.

On Helaman 6... It seems at times that both parties in the United States are rather corrupt. They both have things which really are disagreeable with the gospel of our Lord if one sits down and thinks about it. In some ways, one could say...the game is rigged. No matter which way you choose, you lose. But, that's not just the United States these days. I see commentary from others in other nations which reflect similar feelings about their governments and the choices presented to them. At the end of Chapter 6 the gadiantons (and their secret combinations, or secret cabals) gain power over the government. In some ways, it sometimes feels as if there are conspiring minds in our society which control the levers of power, and thus it doesn't matter which side wins...they still control the outcome. I wonder if today we have gadiantons (or their equivalent...of course) controlling the parties and groups that run for our elections?

I've never seen it, but I've heard about it. Don't the kids kill all the adults or something similar to that? I think it may have had Superman in it (Christoper Reeve)...which makes it sort of funny if you think about Superman being killed by a bunch of kids. Also, a movie which is not a particularly morally uplifting movie, but DOES tickle the fancy of some of those in Archaeology and/or History at times...which has what I think of as an excellent thought upon fact vs. truth vs. other things... Posted it here once before I think...but years ago... Which is a nice way of saying we can have our truth or faith, but faith/truth doesn't always define facts as the WORLD may recognize them or vice versa.

I really haven't seen this show, but from what I've gathered over the years is that this character (Dwight) actually does some rather foolish things. Not sure how this fits into this context though. Good thought though. Sort of along the lines of...WWJD...but sort of approaching it from the opposite direction.

That's a scary thought. I don't know. It's VERY possible that, since it is one eternal round, that this is a predictable pattern. Just like they say History repeats itself (not so much an exact replica, but themes and ideas tend to be circular at times), it could be there is a pattern to how things go to the point it may even be predicatable. It may be that with as many children as our Father has, that inevitably some of them will choose to fight against the first estate and thus become the enemies to their own families. Whether they need mentors to help them or they do it themselves...I don't know. At this time it's probably not important for us to know. But, I could see it as a pattern that happens to families to a certain extent, and that because it is predictable, this pattern is utilized as an accepted control (or something that will occur as a fact rather than a theory or question) and as a tool to aid in the salvation and exaltation of those that do not rebel.

Well, it seems that the Nephites are losing ground to the Secret Combinations and much like his forefather (well, several forefathers great grand forefather) Alma, Nephi (And Lehi) are going to preach the gospel. They start converting the Lamanites and it appears that the Lamanites are now turning to be more righteous than the Nephites. I can see something similar in our world today. We, of the West, were very moral for many years (well, at least relative to what we are now). However, Joseph Smith said that in his day they were already as wicked as they were in the days of Noah (and they were FAR more moral back then, than our Western society is today). When I travel to the Middle East many of the nations there are VERY strict on their laws and rules. However, this also has people remain in a way which is far more moral than we are in many instances. I could drop my wallet in Chicago and most likely I will lose it. If I do regain it, most likely the cash it has will be gone, and perhaps the cards as well. If I drop it in a major city in Saudi Arabia or a similar location, people will try to return it to me with all the contents intact. I use this more as an example of how those who may dislike the United States may actually have a higher morality than what we do in the West.

One thing I think that causes a LOT of suffering on this earth is due to us being in the middle of a War. The War in Heaven never ended. It is not over. We are still in the middle of it. At least from what I feel I've read in the scriptures. I also believe that the Adversary has a LOT more power than most people understand. He has power and he uses it as weapons to control and empower his purposes, as well as to hurt those he dislikes (and he dislikes all of those who retained their first estate) and harm those who stand against him. We know he has powers over the waters (one reason that missionaries are not supposed to go swimming). If you think about that, this is a LOT of power. Around 60% of the human body is water. The blood that courses through our veins is mostly water. I think a LOT of the terrible things that happen in this world (disease for example) are caused by him using his powers to hurt mankind. Freak accidents may have been known by us in the pre-existence as to how they may happen, but I think sometimes the adversary uses them to hurt people just because he wants to hurt them. We are in an active war with the adversary currently. He has it easy because most of the world do not realize that they are at war and who their enemy is. This gives him an easier ability to influence people and to tempt them to do what he wants them to do. He is unbound at this time. I think there will be a time when people will realize he is their enemy and he exists. They will recognize what he is trying to do and will instead choose to follow the Lord. By their righteousness he will become powerless. In effect, their righteousness will bind him so that he won't be able to do many of the things he does today. He will get power again after a period where men once again forget who he is and listen to him. After that though, the War will finally come to an end with his defeat and him and his followers being shown their way to Outer Darkness. However, that end is not yet and he is raging with his power against mankind to control them and to do them harm.

For us what may seem accidental or untimely are not so with the Lord. I feel he knows how and when we each will pass, even if we do not know ourselves.

That has my interest. I need to look into the turkey roll or roast. I tried to let my son do the carving of the Turkey the other day but my wife would have none of that. I ended up carving the Turkey. I really dislike trying to cut around all the bones, get the legs and wings off, etc...etc..etc.

I actually got instruction some years ago that certain Church leaders should be clean shaven. I believe that policy has dropped and is no longer suggested these days. On a completely separate note though, beards have a long heritage in the Church. Now, I'm not sure the Aragorn look has ever been sported, but we have our choices of many other variations. I personally would favor more of a Wilford Woodruff style. I'm not so keen on the Brigham Young style but I saw a few men sporting it when I visited Utah last. The Joseph F. Smith style seems like a pretty glorious beard if you can handle that much hair. More recently though it seems the David O'Mckay (no beard) style has been in vogue with our General Authorities.

Project 2025 has me somewhat worried. Trump's apparent ideas to go after people and to cleanse the Federal service has me worried (as it sounds a LOT like what Hitler was proposing before he got into power...and it's exactly what he did). HOWEVER...my big reason NOT to vote Trump actually isn't dealing with that stuff currently, as that is something that MAY happen in the future (not an absolute or exact thing) I do agree there is much to criticize Trump about already. Mine, as I think I expressed on these forums recently, is that Trump is not a moral person. I feel we should at least strive to vote for those who are moral to be the ones who hold the reins of government. I think I was clear on who I felt was one of the more moral individuals running (as well as saying appearances can be deceiving...BUT to all appearances currently they seem to be a moral person). It is better to have someone moral to be in power, even if you may not agree with everything they say or do, than to have someone immoral rule over you, even if they seem to say what you want them to say. In my opinion...of course.

For starters Fox News settles with Dominion...owes 3/4 of a Billion dollars Oh...wait...you guys get all your news from Fox...or worse...don't you? It's official, Election was secure But law, order, and those who pursue legal and justifiable measures to ensure secure and free elections don't matter to Trumpers...now do they (which is why Trump tried to scam Georgia's officials and force them to do things they shouldn't do...or so it REALLY appears...which is why he is ON TRIAL about it...IF he proven guilty). Exhaustive Fact Check finds little evidence of voter fraud, but Trump insists it did with absolutely NO evidence So far, the articles are from AP, Brennan Center, and PBS... Ironically Trump's own government at the time put out a statement about the security of the election joint statement elections most secure ever From Cisa.gov NOW...on the otherhand, is there ANY VALID and CREDIBLE evidence you have to insist that the election was rigged and ANY evidence that actually has held up in court that shows that Donald Trump won the election? Evidence that SHOWS Trump won the election that isn't put out by those Gadiantons and Amalakiahites that want to overthrown our government (Like Trump asked Pence to do...luckily for us Pence actually cares about the Constitution and our government). NOT the fake stuff all the flat-earther's and others use...REAL actual evidence that is upheld in court and has proven that the election was won by Donald Trump? (and if you do post evidence, please make sure it is CREDIBLE...in otherwords, none of that conspiracy stuff from the Flat Earthers and such...I don't consider that type of stuff credible). Even Europe and Euronews reported back then about the election presidential election most seucre in us history say security officials in direct rebuke to Trump - From Euronews Trump has lost several many cases refuting his claims of winning the election due to fraud... Reuters reports on it here courst have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump Campaign ------

It's the fact that they don't want to send funds over there (without putting conditions which they know probably won't be met) or help in any way. That speaks VOLUMES. It's something that they actually walk hand in hand with those who are openly supporting Hamas who also don't want to send funds or support for Israel.

I don't see the contradictions, but we can agree to disagree. There's a REASON why I said almost all, instead of all. The cases have shown that the election overall was correct in how it ended and who the winner was. The IRONY is that the cases that seem to be intent on trying to corrupt the election thus far that have resulted in actual evidence and convictions have been on Republicans. (For example, the most recent has to do with a Republican's wife in Iowa who's husband still lost the congressional race in 2020, she has 52 counts - with 26 of false information, 3 of fraudulent registration, and 23 of fraudulent voting - against her, it was focused primarily on helping her husband win the race). We will see if Trump is ALSO guilty of encouraging this type of stuff or not. I have to admit BEFORE the 2020 election I would have NEVER thought that Trump or a conservative would lose in Georgia. After what Trump tried to do though..., we'll see how the court goes on this. I doubt a conviction will convince his cult of followers to stop supporting him though. I will admit I like DeSantis a LOT more than Trump. A LOT of what I look at in politicians is how Morale they are. It can be hard to determine that. Sometimes you can get fooled. Looking at DeSantis though, he APPEARS to be one of the more Morale politicians out there. I may not agree with many of his positions, but he seems sincere in his opinions and how he acts. That's far more important to me at times than agreeing with every political point. That's why I don't like or support Trump. He seems to be a very immoral person and a very immoral character. If we allow ourselves to be ruled by the immoral, ultimately it is a reflection of our society (ESPECIALLY in a democracy or in a democratic type government such as a Federal Democratic Republic such as what the US is). Immoral leaders are something that I just really feel we shouldn't be promoting. The OTHER irony is that I'm NOT a democrat, I'm not even really liberal (though I tend to be painted as one on these boards).

It's coming from both sides. On the liberal side you have these kids that have no experience with the deception Hamas is doing (committing warcrimes by using human shields for starters) and sympathize with the propaganda Hamas is sending out. On the Conservative side you have those who wish to send no support to Israel (thus by default supporting their enemies). Those of us who support Israel seem to be growing smaller each day. I can see the non-support/dislike of Israel growing (and it's predicted to in the Bible) among our nation and others along these types of lines unfortunately. That said, sometimes you have to stand against evil groups, and Hamas is an evil group. Ironically if you look at it from the areas I visit, as Hamas is supported by Iranian interests, that goes contrary to the Saudi/Sunni interests of the area.

Because almost every lawsuit that has tried to show this has actually lost when evidence has been shown the contrary. There have been one or two which fraud WAS shown, BUT ironically, it was from the Republicans (one which just resulted in a wife being convicted of 52 counts of it if I've heard correctly). By all the evidence that has been provided, our election system last time WAS secure, but one BIG reason was that they didn't corrupt the officials. This time things are being put into place to do what they attempted last time. If Trump wins this next election I give it a 50/50 chance he may actually be the Anti-Christ. Looking at how well he has many of the religious conservatives in his palm (despite having broken just about every commandment there is), and other checkmarks...it would also match the beast dying and rising again. For all of DeSantis's faults, at least from what I can see currently (and that could all be an illusion cast by him) he is, overall, a more moral individual than Trump who loves his family and cares deeply for them.

You guys are a little strange in some ways. I've NEVER had a group that got together and did these weird things or got out of hand like what you are suggesting (never had the temple questions regarding certain topics brought up here as a question for my recommend either, so it MAY have just been a local thing for whatever area someone was in). The closest to a cult type thing I've experienced has been southern football. That's not connected to something with the Church though. I can't even imagine people forbidding any members from meeting together. What's the point of a ward or stake then? In most areas outside of Utah and the Arizona to Idaho corridor the members are NOT close together. Getting together with members gives strength to each other in communities which are mostly other religions and faiths or beliefs. Normally it's been eating a meal or something to that effect. What type of crazy people do you have in your areas where they decide to go out an start creating their own gospel? Even when I visited Utah I didn't see anything that strange, and members are much closer together. The go to the same schools, they go to the same dance academies, they go to the same sports teams, etc. I didn't see any football teams in Utah suddenly start sacrificing babies to the Sun before the football game or anything! This is just gone off on such a weird tangent? The implication is that those who are members of the Church go into sacrilegious activities as soon as they get together as a group. If Southern Baptists in general don't do this...why WOULD MEMBERS start doing these types of things? (Edit: I bring up Southern Baptists because in general their Churches are much more independent in how they operate and work than our Church. Basically the Church board is the regulating committee, and thus would be far more like that school situation where you have a group of people working together independently on gospel studies and coordination than you do in our Church...etc). It actually makes very little sense. Unless you hang out in crowds that are already susceptible to this type of thing (which is more a fringe group type thing from what I see), then this IS NOT NORMAL. The little bible study group that gets together with the grandmas for the Southern Baptists on Sunday and then put together yard sales and bridge games on the other days...THEY DON'T go wacko like what is being described in these threads, and they are very MUCH into Bible study and discussion. The Come Follow Me program for families doesn't seem to inspire this wacked out behavior amongst small groups studying the scriptures together. Maybe I'm just an unusual member of the Church or something, but this entire "warnings" that I'm hearing in this thread about people who get together to have schools focused on gospel principles or people getting together to study the scriptures seem really odd. Who in the world associates these types of things with people going into wacked out ideas where they branch off and develop their own gospel teachings in a short amount of time? This is definitely not something I can relate to. I've seen a LOT of strange things as a professor at a University, but unless a group is already full of outcasts who can't fit in, I can't say I've seen ANYTHING of the LIKE occurring in gospel focused groups or other such things around me amongst the general populace of students or anyone else.

That is a rather crazy game. Much worse than the experience of making a new one for the University Login. Emoji's as passwords? I have to delete fire emojis? I have use wingding's font? different sized fonts? use the length of your password and it must be a prime number? Okay...I give up...how many rules do they keep adding on? This is rather insane of a game.