pwrfrk

...

Is it morally or ethically permissible for anyone baptized in the church to set aside the gospel and conduct expected of Mormons so they can "keep" their career? I have seen this with a few cops I know, they said they set aside the church and church standards so they can keep their jobs. I feel that if they-be it doctors, lawyers, cops and politicians, too-set aside their standards so they can do their job, then it is conduct unbecoming a priesthood holder. I reflect on it like this- when you do wrong to someone, it is worthless to ask God to forgive you until you have asked the person you wronged to forgive you. Then, if when you wronged them there were damages, you must compensate them accordingly. Then, and only then, will you be forgiven. What would the expected standards be? Is it morally acceptable to set aside God for a job? What about when you retire and return to the church? Do you somehow have a special prayer to say so God will forgive you, even though your victims don't have to? To me there is nothing else about setting the church aside for a career could mean, but the commission of immoral and unethical conduct. What else could there be? Does that make it any mor right if no one is harmed and it's just immoral or unethical conduct?

Just do it. Nothing wrong with it, it's no one's business in what you wear to bed. So just do it.

Hmmm. That was the #1 reason why I parted from the church 20+ years ago. Had such a problem with stake pres, went to area authority, was told to keep my nose out of it. So I wrote SLC and told them I was leaving and why. A few months later I was disfellowshipped for conduct unbecoming a priesthood holder. Seems the church didn't approve of my marriage, though it was 100% legal. Never asked to see the marriage license either. As I learned, unless the SP is banging your wife, keep your nose out of it, or else.

Welcome to Utah. I dunno. You must have done something else. To be here that short of time frame and have that many problems? I dunno. Don't worry about people judging you. If anything they are judging themselves to Jesus.

Welcome aboard kscience! The best thing to do is just go. Start going, and before yo know it you'll start to blend in!

Welcome aboard!

I do not see any competition between the BoM and the HB. Instead the BoM is a descriptive set of appendix chapters (if I may) that enhances and helps better understand God's word.

Marriage- the last act a man commits as a sane unmedicated individual.

And so she is now losing faith in...what...over what?!?!?!?! Man! Dude, I can not even begin to express the confusion I have here, those kind of acronyms are prohibited!

You guys have next week to go see it. It's pretty good! The story line is old, however I enjoy watching the actors & their work. Some of their costumes are pretty cool! And if you do go, make sure you stop by Angie & Fred's Chocolate Covered Strawberry booth! Man, those are tasty! And healthy!

I think I'll leave it up. Then start taking bets on who can manage to behead me for it....lol! Thanks, though.

Perhaps it's because we're older and have higher expectations of juvenile-oriented sci-fi to fit our now-adult mental framework...?

...Did you go see it this year? If so, what do you think about it? Not just the play, but the entire event.

Honestly? In some forums, yes, that IS ideal. Like when you're looking for someone to purchase automatic weapons from, or find a cruise ship to hi-jack.... ...All in sarcasm, of course.

Please extend my condolences to her for me, then. 🤣 Seriously, if you have a good, close relationship with the Bishop, that's just fine. Even if he's your "best friend". Bishops have friends, too, you know. So long as it's not sexual and so long as both of you know where the boundary is and respect it. Chad, I think that if anything you and the Bishop need to sit and talk about this. Lost Boy, BTDT. I still have you in my prayers, because bro I know what that's like. Mine...I was trying to keep my wife happy, not understanding that she was facing a lot of depression. It was a mess. No divorce though, turned out her first divorce wasn't valid. That sucked. Especially since she was my first wife and I was husband #4. 😑

Hate the sin but love the sinner.

Carborendum, bro, you need a beer. Seriously. You do. Get a beer and kick back. Just relax. Because someone doesn't like something about you they decide to hold you accountable for who knows what, blame you, hell they just may blame your hair cut for all we know, but they don't want the responsibility of managing their own crap. So much easier to blame you. So go have a beer and get over it. It's not your fault. You don't run their lives nor telling them how to. You ain't her daddy.

What I see is DPRK wanting to be accepted and recognized as a sovereign nation. I cannot explain the way they treat their people, but I think the whole thing could change for the better if we recognized and accept DPRK as a sovereign nation. Who knows what Kim Song Il's other problems are. As for nukes, I think we need more countries armed. I think the US is playing as the playground bully. That's my ball and I want you to play my game! Or I'm taking my ball home!" We were never appointed or hired as any kind of global leadership. We're just another country on the globe.

I see a possible misunderstanding here, just not sure if it's me or you. When you are saying emotional bond and emotional affair, come on. Cut to the chase already- do you mean she's having a sexual affair? If we're talking sexual, you bet the stake president better be brought into this matter.

I've eaten at several different Hooters, and the quality of food and wait staff reflects on the skill level of the management. FWIW. I have worked at a liquor store before, and it's not for me to decide what other people do with their lives. Am I condoning the sin? Well, hate the sin but love the sinner, is my understanding. I really don't care if they drink, though the three biggest customers we had was the Mormons, Catholics and migrant workers. But talking about the WoW....I find it ironically hilarious that a convenience store is not open on Sundays, keeping the Hole Day Holy. However, they sell chew, smokes, booze, condoms and porn. Well, if you're willing to forego the profit of weekend customers by being closed on a Sunday, then why not forego the profit of sinful customers as well? You see, this is exactly what I am talking about when I criticize people. You see, truly the Bible and other Holy Writings (Holy Bible, BoM, PoGP, D&C, etc.) are not "pick and choose your sin". A sin in thought is as bad as a sin in real life. But then look at other industries and you see it there, too. Lawyers, Insurance salesman, car dealers, real estate agents, landlords, tenants, cops, good grief! The list goes on! And people see that. They see John Q. Public, the local Mormon, at the store, at the barber, at the gas station, or even at where they work. They look at him (or her, if you wish) and ask themselves, "is this what the Mormon church teaches?", "is this how they are supposed to behave?" or better yet, "there's a Mormon for ya!". And yes they even look at other religions the same way, and you do as well (so don't tell me you don't or havn't, otherwise yer lyin'!). How much criticism do tele-evangeists get for having those really nice jets and mansions? Lots. Like it or not, as soon as you step out of the church, you are stepping into the missionary world. People learn from us and reflect upon the church. And working in sales makes it even harder.

I have purchase Nuance software several times in the past and it never worked. Even if it did match up with the computer. BTDT. Dragon is, IMO, garbage. IF it installs it still doesn't work well.

Going back to the OP, I don't think those are false promptings. If anything it's normal for the human brain to "pull stunts" like that. I'm glad for you that your mother is doing better.

After reviewing this thread for usable info I found that it is lacking in a very serious area- chemical. Namely pH. If the water is too acidic it will contain (at the least) metals, some of which you don't want in your body. If the water is too basic (alkaline), it will contain nonmetals and metallioids. This is a serious concern as in some areas water heavy in zinc, sulfur, cadmium or calcium (for example) are not potable, but plants do just fine. You drink the water and keep drinking because you're thirsty, but your body cannot use the water because of the "dissolved solids". You have to precipitate those out. In the past where I used to spend a lot of time, there was water, but the predominant dissolved solid was gypsum with higher than normal levels of cadmium and calcium. I used instant tea with lemon to change the pH. Filter the water getting rid of the floaters, then pout it into a cup lined with 3-4 coffee filters. Add the instant tea mix and stir. I would find a grey particulate precipitate and fall to the bottom. Wait 10 minutes and remove the filters. Then sip it. It was far more potable than without. "Gypy water" has a history in Utah, for certain. I realize the LDS normally does not drink tea, but under the circumstances where you need to filter the water, because you have nothing else, I do not see it as an issue.

I used a list from back when I was in the local search and rescue unit. It was for my survival bag. Lot of tools, even a couple books, maps, stuff like that. 72 hours may have been enough to take care of you after the initial crisis, but today? Forget it. Maybe for a small backpack, otherwise I suggest going bigger. IMO 5 days, minimum. Back a few years ago I was in a relatively remote area. I had a water-proofed duffle bag for clothes, another for the emergency tools, and then another specifically for food. I had enough Mountain House packed survival food to last me three months. Then two 5 gallon water jugs and a bunch of filters and hose. I normally kept both tanks for fuel filled, and that was around 110 gallons plus five 5 gal. jerry cans. I made sure I was covered.