DennisTate

i don’t know.
what they saw seems as something from the hieroglyphs... 
 
Adam betrayed God by falling to the enemy and helping create this material matrix. ... not all shown is a positive thing. 

This is true to an extent but optimism does not drive the value of money - productivity does. 

Oh, ok.  For a minute there I thought it was going to be a website telling about the last time I poked fun at one of my ex-girlfriends cooking.  I think it qualifies.
 

I am not saying what my means that there was a fall, since I still have questions!, though I do view the fall as negative. But the dancing will be each of his 144k with his girl. In context of Eden, how I understand what He showed me, we are made in his image, which is elohim, and the Image of God. His image is male and Female, of He and Mother of whose image we are made. Female is the core of male,  just as she is His core and all the love. And each female soul of His is the same image, where the male speaks the word (his female), and it is not a higher and lower but a very pretty dance. Many ask why in scripture 'no one sees God'. My understanding is that that line refers to she... she is referred to not Him by that line, and of course no one sees her but Him.  Just as for each male, his family and relationship is private. This is why there are 144k sons going to heaven (as the first,  at the Change) and no mention is made of the 144k females, yet of course each girl is going with her male who God gave her to. After the change, the 144k will help many more millions upon this earth to go Home. That said, I'm not saying females are hidden or how that works... only having seen a glimpse... I use that expression as analogy of the family, since the family is private and yet are with all the others and share and love God with many others, together.

A little background here: The classical "Trinity", as outlined by the Athanasian Creed, states that the Father, Son, and Spirit are 3 different persons in 1 God,.  They are one through a shared substance. The LDS Christian view is a little different: the Father, Son, and Spirit are 3 different persons in 1 God.  They are one through unity.   One truth, one goodness, one way, one glory, one family, etc.     So yes, LDS Christians will agree that the Father and Son, and Spirit are a family, but it's a more complex family with as are all of us as the Father's children.  

Yes.
The trinity ≠ the family.

The trinity = the family. 
Any thoughts? 

I would go as far to say that evangelicalism as a concept (not directed at a specific soul, just the system) is in trouble with Him, for having rejected His Spirit, who is she, our mother. That was not a smart move but apparently rome was very busy making the all male trinity a standard. Even Irenaeus knew His Spirit was female. Until Medieval Rome came in labeling  many early christians 'gnostics' to impose its canon, and branding many heretics. So, from my view the reformation failed, and Medieval assumptions continue to affect Christianity. I was told once by a catholic priest, since I taught theology and philosophy at a catholic university in the past, that the catholic church is essentially augustinian. Well... so is modern christianity!  And augustine was a mess...so I wish modern christianity would abandon his views.  He was sure to make sure that no one in their right mind would ever ever ever realize that His Spirit is His very soul and is Feminine. His wife, one God, just as all the 144k  sons also has his feminine counterpart. That is the pattern of Heaven. Love. Anyway, I'm sorry i overextended me. I still have the flu and perhaps I am not speaking as clearly as would be best.

Well, i remained agnostic. Until one day I hit rock bottom, and I realized I always knew He was there, and I began to talk to Him. I did not ask Him for anything. All I did was give Him my promises, several things and i cried for a long time, feeling so lonely for Him, yet not believing he would want me. Then, I began to feel very soft inside, and that He was talking to me. He showed me many things in the other world, was all very quickly and i couldn't remember all in my mind, only in my soul could I feel what was meant. Many things he has shown me, incredible to describe, though even now, not all of them at the time did I completely understand. 
There are others, but one simple most gorgeous experience with Him was in spring of 2016.  A couple of times He showed me events in scripture, and I was there, but this time I was on His lap, and how it felt was love. I was a little child and He was pouring His words into me and I understood them. It sounds unbelievable but in the context all He said made perfect sense, yet were no material words to understand by.. He talked to my soul and I could feel the meanings of all He said, all at once. 

Sometimes I see how people try to accommodate or bend their relationship with God to influences. In reality, why bother. The  point is not agreement from this world as to its truths. The truth is what He says, and not what his opponents go on about, being themselves total cowards who gave up on Him and became secular [religious!] sycophants.

Any soul of His who wants Him is a christian. I don't know who Jeffress is, I don't read anticult stuff because honestly, it is so filled with modern scientific nonsense. The cult 'sociology' and cult 'psychology' disciplines are but cults of the religion of this world - Science as the new canon by which all beliefs are measured. Bah.

The answer to that question is No. 
I want to point out that there is no such prophecy. There is an in depth article that can be found on byustudies if u google Edwin Rushton white horse prophecy. 
Two parts can be sources to Joseph Smith. 1. That the constitution would hang by a thread and 2. That the saints would find refuge in the rocky mountains. Both have already occurred. The rest is speculation about some future event that will never happen. 
The church refuted the white horse prophecy in 1918. It is not a reliable document. It is based on the false notions of mankind who do not understand the Book of Revelations. The 4 horsemen of that revelation have already come and gone. Any reference to them now is just fuel for Hollywood fictional drama.

This has no bearing on the value of money.  This only affects speculative investments like stock prices.  Regardless of how optimistic or pessimistic a population is of the value of their investment, $500 will still remain to be worth a specific basket of goods.
 
This also does not have any bearing on the value of $500.  Ethics only come into play when governments print more money without a corresponding increase in productivity causing a devaluation of the currency.
The value of money is backed by tangible products.  That is why you can use it to trade for products.  Detaching money from productivity makes money just another piece of paper that has no meaning.
 
 
 

I will take another look at the Howard Pittman near death experience but the name rings a bell so I am pretty sure that I did read at least some about it in the past.  

yes it’s true the demonic realm is all around. 
 
i never had a near death but all my experiences with Him were in dreams and visions He showed... And indeed this world is not his. 
Howard Pittman’s nde is one im very interested in. 

Wow!!!!!!
I had to read your reply twice to attempt to understand you better.  You really have covered a lot of information in your reply.  I've been listening recently to a particular near death experiencer who states that during his forty five minute brush with death and meeting with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus he was shown things that caused him to NOT want to return to his body....... but once Messiah Yeshua - Jesus asked him to come back and tell people that we are loved and guided far, far, far, far more so than we can begin to imagine..... he did it............. and I am so glad that he did.  
He mentioned that the level of demonic activity all around us would astonish us.  
 

Yes... near death experiencer Mr. Dean Braxton mentioned that he met with one of his Aunt's in heaven that he had expected would have gone in the other direction!

I can’t take the Survey, since my answer would be that the temple asked about in the question (upon this earth) is not scriptural. His temple is to be restored but not in this current earth . Prophets are clear on that when scripture is translated correctly. 

I take salvation to be by each soul, not by religion... not every soul simply from following a group, is utterly true to Him. Many will go with Him when we are saved from here.... many no one would have expected to see, when Christ separates His wheat from the rest...

Im not evangelical; Salvation to me is when the Change happens, (rapture but not evangelic version), that His 144k sons go home and are restored to the glorified body of eden, as adam had before the fall.... since adam was created in “our image” said God, and the term image is elohim. I’m not excluding the girls, only that male is the legal carrier of the attribute... while the girl represents the attribute. so together the 144k are both of them. Christ legally undid the fall...but de facto with His help, the sons will now. Every soul of His prophets and those who can hear Him all through scripture, are His but they couldn’t know about the scroll not yet unsealed (then) and they will all be with Him after the Change who are His. Just as after the change the 144k will return to this earth and bring many millions more to Him.   Eden is being restored, that is what many call new jerusalem. We cannot imagine, because the modern mindset, what incredible close relation He had with His prophets.... who could see the other world and the war there, and told of our day today. I don’t know what those you mention receive... but i know that all who are His, since this altered history began at the fall, will go Home soon and reign with Him.... 

Humbly submitted, and I am not LDS... I am christian, and my understanding is that Israel is His People, not a country in the current middle east. His people = His church.
 

Great.  So I get $500 that can buy a specific basket of goods because those goods have value commensurate to the value of my productivity.  Or in other words, I can buy 10 pairs of pants and 10 shirts using an otherwise value-less piece of paper with $500 printed on its face because the effort of making 10 pants and 10 shirts out of the earth is symbolized by that print on that paper.
What do you think will happen to the value of $500 if you just give it to everybody without it having any relation to productivity?  Why $500?  Why not $100?  Or, for that matter, why not $1 million?  They would be exactly the same.  The value of any $ given to everybody without productivity is... exactly zero. 
For $500 to retain its value of being able to buy 10 pants and 10 shirts when you give it to somebody who did not produce anything for it, you're going to need an equal number of somebodies who produced 10 pants and 10 shirts who did not receive $500 for the productive effort.  There's a word for that... I'll give you a hint.  Starts with an S followed by lavery.

Well, he is right in that case, those denominations will experience a great civil dispute, but those "churches" do not constitute "the" church. Among all these various opposing beliefs, only one church can be right (and even that church, if it exists on the earth, may not have it all right at this moment - maybe they will in April of 2020, but I doubt it), but those churches can't all be right. And the church will not get it right because of a civil dispute. That is not the way God works.
I don't believe the messianic "movement" is "the" church.
There is no White Horse President prophecy. There is only your interpretation of the scriptures and, IMO, it is a failed prophecy. The white horse prophecy is about a specific person who has already come and when he comes again, it will not be to run for the white house presidency. That person, IMO, is Adam or Michael.
 
I would suggest that when anyone asks for wisdom, understanding, or the Holy Spirit, it will be given. The "ask, seek, and knock" offer was not made to Mormons alone, it was made to anyone who lacks wisdom.

Personally....  I visualize Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the Ancient of Days the Father  being right beside me.......
I visualize the Holy Spirit right beside me....  as a person which is a new understanding to me because I did not 
regard the Holy Spirit as a Person until recently.......
I sometimes tell Messiah Yeshua - Jesus things that I think He would regard as funny..........
 
Sometimes I think and think and think and think and give Messiah Yeshua something of a challenge.... for example... to have fun with the 
strange and unusual things that I just prayed to Him and/ or on behalf of His authority????
 
Sometimes I attempt to give to the Ancient of Days the Father.....  something that I believe he could show a re-run of in hell......
to the Devil..... and get the Devil laughing....... (perhaps not for the best of reasons....... but laughter is laughter)....... which may cause
both G-d and the Devil to take one possibly significant step toward each other??????  

I believe that civil war has been going on ever since the first protestant movement started and is still going on. The question I have is what church this Rev is talking about.