NeuroTypical

If a company wishes to not make customers happy, it is not the employee's job to make them happy. If a company wishes to make employees powerless in the face of customers who are angry for no good reason, it is the employee's job to leave and find a better job somewhere else. If anybody breaks any laws, people can get in trouble.

I can work with that.And absolutely - I'm aware also of how Christian groups are persecuted and unjust laws are leveled against them in various places around the globe. We LDS tend to work totally above-board and just work on changing attitudes in the government before we'll go into a country. I can find things to respect about groups that smuggle bibles and hold undercover church and such.

Pretty horrible thing. Too bad for the guy's wife. I'm glad nobody else was killed. I'm glad a couple of people were able to wrestle the gun away from him before he could reload and keep shooting.What a dang tragedy.

I'd just like to point out, that the church has no plans to feed the hungry, should bad times come. There's some sort of urban myth out there - very pervasive and deep in some circles - that the church owns a gazillion silos full of grain, and massive stockpiles of food that will be used to feed people in widespread or longterm disasters. The church has no such preparations and no such stockpiles and no such plans. We've got canneries to help members store food. The church's efforts on disaster preparadness is totally directed at helping individual families become prepared. The church is not Egypt, and the Prophet is not pharoah or Joseph. The church as an orgainzation, is not storing food against a time of need. Instead, it urges it's members to prepare every needful thing against times of need. Now, should big horrible things happen, I'm sure many of us will be helping and providing service and charity and whatnot. We're big on service and helping the poor and needy and whatnot. But we're also big on urging our members not to be poor and needy in the first place. The burden is on us to prepare for our families, not our church to prepare for us. Current counsel from our leaders is all about self-reliance. It's not about gathering together in companies of fifty, or reinstating the United Order, or any such things. Provident Living.org

And T.T is a smiley indicating someone has tear streaks coming down their cheeks.

The constitution binds the federal government only. Congress didn't make any law here. States, counties, parrishes, cities, towns, municipalities - all of them get to decide how they run their areas. Not only do they get to - they have a duty to. So the next time someone tries to start the "church of applying massage oil to naked businessman" in your neighborhood, the local cops come and arrest everyone. [Yes, things like this happen. No, I don't have a link - just news from my relative in Albuquerque.]

Excellent! Tell her so. And then bring up maybe moving forward, and see what she thinks.From the way you describe her, she sounds like someone who does not involve a guy in her daughter's life just at the drop of a hat. You'll never know until you try...

I guess I will always love and honor NetFlix, for their help in pulling out the Blockbuster weed and having it's vile roots wither in the sun and finally die the death it so totally deserved for so long.Out of the top five negative experiences I've had with companies, Blockbuster occupies two spots - one for it's horrible late return fees, one for it's totally abysmal incompetent theivery disguised as a DVD's by mail service.

My biggest concern would be traffic - those 50 have to get there and leave there somehow. We can let our kids have the run of the neighborhood and play in the street when 2 cars go by in an hour - not when 20 go by. It wrecks a big reason we moved there on a weekly basis.Noise and lights would also be concerns - yes, even on 5 acre lots. It's not the "quiet seclusion of country living" we purchased - it's "quiet seclusion of country living except for Wednesday and Saturday evenings when there's something big happening at the neighbor's". Again (for the third time) - there is a permit process. Go get the dang permit - that will shut up the neighbor, or at least take away their grounds for complaining. The scouting program was more than just run through a religious organization. It was the evangelical outreach portion of that church for boys. I've lost the story and links, but the basic intent was along the lines of "have your boys join our troop, and we'll train them up correctly in the [Nazarite/Baptist/Lutheran/I forget] tradition." Yes - they were Mormons in leadership positions. The program promised leaders with a very particular religous faith doing constant youth outreach. It was not like an LDS boy scout troop - it was more like an LDS Priest's quorum that wore uniforms and did service. It would be like a new familly moving in, the dad becomes Priest quorum advisor, and then says "oh, by the way, we're Baptists - that's not a problem is it?" Basically, the bible study story infringes on people's property rights, and my 2nd example was an issue with people's rights to assemble and associate with whom they please.

All my neighbors and I have at least 5 acres. 50 per week is too much. It's a neighborhood. If there's a permit process, then follow the permit process. If the zoning/hoa/whatever says not in that neighborhood, then change the zoning/hoa/whatever.I felt the same way when an LDS couple moved to a new area, got involved in the (non-lds and very faith-baseed) scouting program, became part of the leadership, and then told everyone they were LDS. Then they got all mad when they got kicked out. A simple trip to the church website indicated it was a train wreck waiting to happen, but the LDS couple either didn't bother to learn, or figured the rules didn't apply to them. Again - chess club, wine tasters, little-old-lady coffee klatch, local chapter of the "cute cartoon puppy drawers of America" - one disgruntled neighbor = 50 in a residential neighborhood is too much.

I'm thinking this isn't about religion or Christianity or faith. It's about having 50 people over at your house on a weekly basis. I mean, I'm hardly the world's biggest supporter of zoning laws or HOA policies or what have you. But I'd have a big issue if my neighbor had 50 people over once a week, regardless of the reason. Poker game, gardening club, astronomy night, etc - I'd have a problem with that.

Can't watch that one, unless you watch this one too:

Ditto. Let us know what happens next!

Yeah, common misconception: "If I fully repented, it never happened." That's not true. Stuff happened, it's just that the burden of sin from the stuff no longer burdens you. The atonement does not always remove earthly consequences - some of which can last for a lifetime.The church is more than all about the repentant sinner. It's also about protecting it's members, and it's own good name. For example, this church simply just doesn't let child molestors teach primary - no matter how complete their repentance process and free of their past sins they are. People who went off and started their own church and published a few books contrary to church teachings might not find themselves teaching Gospel Doctrine any time soon. Folks who have embezzeled or stolen may find that "financial clerk" isn't something they'll be doing.

Your issue isn't with the friend, it's about the trust you have in your husband. Do you trust your husband to not do dumb things? Then stop worrying about it. Do you lack trust in your husband? Then answer this - is the lack of trust appropriate or inappropriate? In other words, is your husband a good guy and you have a problem trusting him? Or is your husband weak or immature, and will probably do something dumb in Germany?

Meh. I can understand the whinging and complaining and leaving - but we love our NetFlix streaming and are very happy to have it. Dumping the one DVD via mail option was no biggie for us. There is a portent of stormy weather ahead for the unlimited streaming video industry - I hope we can keep what we have for the price we currently pay.

Ordinarily, I'd advise the spouse being cheated on, to get a lawyer in order to help him/her keep custody. But your admission of verbal abuse sort of messes up that advice. Are you also verbally abusive to the kids? Are you too insecure and selfish to put what's best for them ahead of your own wants and needs? I mean, it doesn't excuse her adultury or anything, but it sort of explains it. I don't know if your marriage can be saved or not. I do know that because of the kids, you dang well sure ought to try to save it. And I also know that you can't change her, you can only change you. So that's all I can offer by way of advice. You work on you. You go to counseling to help fix you. Change your behavior so verbal abuse isn't something associated with you. I'm guessing that you'll have to be setting aside trusting her for now I think. It's not an "I can't trust her" thing, it's an "I've done my part to almost destroy my marriage and my wife will probably find a way out unless I can win her back" thing. Thanks for the honesty about yourself - sometimes that's a very rare thing in folks in your situation. It speaks positively to your character.

Do you have children?

It is true that that book tends to provoke a rather polarized response from people - it tends to be either loved or hated.In my experience, it is NOT true that "most" who read it react negatively.

I've been to at least 3 or 4 Marriotts that do not have BoM's anywhere around. It seems to be mainly a Utah thing.But as to the topic - I've enjoyed Hubbard's fiction in the past. I read his big honkin' "Battlefield Earth" decology back in college, and I wasn't upset about the movie that came a few years later. It seems to me that the flawed antagonists get most of the treatment. After 10 books, I had complete access into the soul of the main bad guy and many of the henchmen - why they were that way, the issues that came with being that way, the missed opportunities to be other ways, etc. But the only insight into the hero I carried away, was that he was sad he crashed his tug. (It could have been my poor reading skills though.) I never met the man, and I've only seen scientologists at their most confrontational, but the fiction is enjoyable.

Around 200 years ago, a guy named John decided to leave England and throw in his lot with the new world. My half-sister tells me I'm one of his 2227 descendants (and counting). He made a good choice.

I don't understand that line of thought. This church doesn't 'allow' or 'disallow' its members to do anything...But regardless, I'm glad some of what we had to give you found useful.

I hadn't seen the 10 hour version - I must now quit my job and sit in a darkened room in my basement ensconced in the flickering glow from my monitor. Gotta get the full experience. I'm afraid if they make a 10 hour version of this one, my wife will make me go live somewhere else:

Ok - I'm trying to be charitable here. This is the best I can do: Has he been diagnosed with Alzheimers, and this is a way of letting his wife know it's ok if she leaves him? That's the only guess I can come up with that comes within a lightyear of understanding this guy's position.

I would like to hear what Pat's wife Adelia thinks about his pronouncement that he might divorce her if she gets alzheimers. I wonder what his 4 kids and dozen or more grandkids think about it.