19 year old abducted by parents for joining Church

[pam]

HOLLADAY -- The Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office is searching for a young woman and her parents. Deputies believe a Texas man abducted his own daughter following her baptism into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

ksl.com - 19-year-old abducted by parents for converting to LDS Church

[Hemidakota]

I just it read it this morning....thanks for posting it.

I have in the pass had a congressional investigation and visitation over a baptism of a 18-year old, where the parents where against it and filed a complaint.

[Misshalfway]

Nice parenting style. What are they gonna do? Lock her in a tower?

[MarginOfError]

"Danielle Alonso and I are the best of friends. I love her very much and I'm completely concerned for her welfare."

I don’t mean make light of the situation, and I truly hope for the best for Danielle, but her roommate’s quote above strikes me as so uniquely mormon. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone else use “concerned for her welfare” in this kind of a situation……I’m so going to hell for thinking that right now aren’t I?

[pam]

Yes MOE you are going to hell.

[Honor]

"Danielle Alonso and I are the best of friends. I love her very much and I'm completely concerned for her welfare."

I don’t mean make light of the situation, and I truly hope for the best for Danielle, but her roommate’s quote above strikes me as so uniquely mormon. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone else use “concerned for her welfare” in this kind of a situation……I’m so going to hell for thinking that right now aren’t I?

Gosh MOE, I think you're looking for stuff like that JUST because it happened in Utah. I didn't see anything like, "I miss her with every fiber of my being" or "I pray that she will be sustained, nourished and strengthened". Can you take the anti-Utah blinders off for just a second?!

Edited May 12, 2009 by Honor

[bytor2112]

She is probably tied up somewhere, while her parents try to deprogram her from the brainwashing. I wonder if they will feed her jello till she begs for mercy or maybe they will deny her jello till she promises never to return?

[pam]

Kind of reminds me of the story of the parents who abducted their daughter the day before her temple wedding because they didn't like her choice of a husband.

[Jenamarie]

Kind of reminds me of the story of the parents who abducted their daughter the day before her temple wedding because they didn't like her choice of a husband.

That's what popped into my head too. I wonder whatever happened in that case.

I hope this girl is found safe. I too am "concerned for her welfare."

[Churchmouse]

Look on the bright side. Maybe she will convert her parents.

I doubt if she is in any physical danger. They think they are protecting her. I can't see them hurting their own daughter.

[Jenamarie]

Look on the bright side. Maybe she will convert her parents.

I doubt if she is in any physical danger. They think they are protecting her. I can't see them hurting their own daughter.

Lots of people hurt their own daughters. The daughter told her roommate her dad was abusive. And he KIDNAPPED her. I would not put it past him to cause her harm.

[Dravin]

Lots of people hurt their own daughters. The daughter told her roommate her dad was abusive. And he KIDNAPPED her. I would not put it past him to cause her harm.

Especially when they feel its for the good of their soul. I mean whats a beating (or other abuse) when it saves your son's/daughter's soul? Just think of some of the horrors that have been done because people's child is gay if you feel your kid being LDS is just as 'hell worthy' Satan can get you to do some pretty drastic things.

I'll leave up to people who may actually know the parents to worry if such is actually the case though.

[Misshalfway]

It is so easy to think the worst. Do we know for sure she was abducted? Did she get into that car against her will? Or did she choose reluctantly to go? I mean, if my dad said "Get in the car", I prolly still would have at nineteen.

And just because this dad has a temper doesn't mean that he is going to harm her. Sounds like to me they are desperate parents more than angry ones. They prolly think their kid is in danger and want to save her. I mean, wouldn't you if you had that impression of your kids decisions? They don't have a testimony. They prolly believe the worst descriptions of us and they are freaking out! Hopefully, they will calm down and come back to reality.

My money is on the safe but arguing with parents scenerio.

Still, I think these rash parents need to take a pill. breath in and out, and then consider taking their daughter to lunch next time.

[Faded]

So many "Christian" religions have spent so much time and effort demonizing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. This father sounds like he was a piece of work to begin with, but the constant slander and attack on the LDS faith should rightly be seen as "accessories in kidnapping" and whatever else happens to this poor girl. Every person who spends altogether too much time badmouthing our religion has had blood on their hands in the past. Let's hope that they have not added more blood to their guilt. It is impossible that he would have reacted this way had she joined ... oh say the Methodist Church.

[Dravin]

So many "Christian" religions have spent so much time and effort demonizing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. This father sounds like he was a piece of work to begin with, but the constant slander and attack on the LDS faith should rightly be seen as "accessories in kidnapping" and whatever else happens to this poor girl.

I dunno, while there are lots of stuff depicting us as crazy and brainwashed I'm not sure there is really all that much calling you to kidnap your child (I could be wrong, tis not like I keep a finger on the pulse of the anti-Mormon crowd). Calls to kidnap your kid or actually physically and/or engage in illegal activities to prevent them for joining just seems so 1840.

[Faded]

I dunno, while there are lots of stuff depicting us as crazy and brainwashed I'm not sure there is really all that much calling you to kidnap your child (I could be wrong, tis not like I keep a finger on the pulse of the anti-Mormon crowd). Calls to kidnap your kid or actually physically and/or engage in illegal activities to prevent them for joining just seems so 1840.

Take a father who already allegedly abused/beat his daughter growing up (according to the daughter.) If that is true, then you're dealing with a person who is screwed in the head. Having served my Mission in the same region her parents live, I know how much hate and demonizing is going on. You're absolutely right - very few ministers are going to tell their members to kidnap their children for joining the LDS Church. They also don't teach their members to beat their children. They do teach their members that we are a Cult (have to assume they mean Occult, otherwise it's just stating the obvious - Dictionary.com (cult) .) They teach their members that "Mormons" are destined for an eternity in Hell. They have nothing but slander and hate when talking about our religion. Combine those severely distorted views of the LDS Church with a man who was already violent and abusive, and this is the result.

[Dravin]

Combine those severely distorted views of the LDS Church with a man who was already violent and abusive, and this is the result.

Oh, I've not problem with the idea that anti-Mormon opinions and unstable people coming together is a bad mix I just don't think they're (those formulating anti-Mormon opinions) culpable, at least not in a legal sense. Its why the KKK can spout its hate but unless they are motivating towards violence (not just hate) they aren't legally responsible.

Edited May 12, 2009 by Dravin
Some clarification of what was being said.

[Faded]

Oh, I've not problem with the idea that anti-Mormon opinions and unstable people coming together is a bad mix I just don't think they're culpable, at least not in a legal sense. Its why the KKK can spout its hate but unless they are motivating towards violence (not just hate) they aren't legally responsible.

Right "legally." The KKK is still a guilty of influencing people to commit hate crimes against Blacks and Jews. Anti-Mormon preaching (virtually every Protestant religion in Texas does it) is responsible for influencing people to commit hate crimes against Mormons.

No, you can't prosecute them, but but a huge amount of blame is rightly theirs.

[Dravin]

No, you can't prosecute them, but but a huge amount of blame is rightly theirs.

Yes, they're morally culpable for everything that leaves their mouth (all of us are: Matthew 12:36 and Doctrine & Covenants 42:27 amongst others). Though that's regardless of whether anyone uses it for justification for something else.

[Wingnut]

They do teach their members that we are a Cult (have to assume they mean Occult, otherwise it's just stating the obvious - Dictionary.com (cult) .)

I always find it amusing, and just smile to myself, when I hear someone say that Mormonism is a cult. Yep. We are. Technically speaking. But so is Catholicism, Judaism, Hunduism, Toaism, Buddhism, Methodism, Lutheranism, Presbyterianism, Protestantism, Baptistism, Jehovah's Witnessism, and any other religion onto which you can tack an "-ism."

[Moksha]

I assume there is probably a right to be free from de-programming, although this procedure has been practiced in the past with impunity.

[Maxel]

I always find it amusing, and just smile to myself, when I hear someone say that Mormonism is a cult. Yep. We are. Technically speaking. But so is Catholicism, Judaism, Hunduism, Toaism, Buddhism, Methodism, Lutheranism, Presbyterianism, Protestantism, Baptistism, Jehovah's Witnessism, and any other religion onto which you can tack an "-ism."

My favorite definitions of Mormonism as a 'cult' come in a carefully pre-packaged manner tailored to the LDS Church (sometimes requiring 6 or more variables to be met before a religion can be a 'cult'). They are my favorite because no matter how much one tailors the definition, that definition will always fit New Testament Christianity just as much as it fits Mormonism.

We're a cult? Then so were the Christians of Christ's day and the apostolic period. I like that company.

On-topic... I hope that girl is ok.

[Hemidakota]

The latest news reveals that she was found.

[pam]

Here is the article about it:

ksl.com - Woman taken from Holladay apartment found safe

[Aesa]

I find it interesting that people resort to this sort of behaviour. I mean, I know why, it's because they haven't been taught methods of evaluation that're within the spectrum of respect for one's fellow human beings and solving problems without violence.

But, in the long run, this is probably going to make their daughter more adamant in her choice. It's the way most teenagers are, they are raised in this culture where they feel the whole world is against them and their choices. This will only give her more conviction, if anything, I feel.