pam Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Interesting to see how the life of the little girl many of us watched on the Sonny and Cher show has developed. She has decided to change gender and will from now on be known as Chaz.Sonny and Cher's child transitioning from female to male - CNN.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyTown Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I think she might want to investigate this further. A lot of people who change gender commit suicide. It's not the answer she thinks it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanette Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've heard somewhere that if a candidate for baptism has had a sex change that he/she cannot be baptized, and if a member has this done, he/she will be excommunicated with no chance for rebaptism. Is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hordak Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've heard somewhere that if a candidate for baptism has had a sex change that he/she cannot be baptized, and if a member has this done, he/she will be excommunicated with no chance for rebaptism. Is that true?Half right IIRC. I believe the church treats it like any other sin. Before baptism "o.k." but after it is an excommunicationable offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyTown Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Half right IIRC. I believe the church treats it like any other sin. Before baptism "o.k." but after it is an excommunicationable offenseErr... I actually had someone in my ward who had a sex change come in, so surprisingly I actually have first hand knowledge of this(Not something I say lightly. In fact, I think this is the first time I've said this).They needed permission from the First Presidency to be baptized. At birth, she was born hermaphroditic and disagreed with the sex assigned to her at birth by the doctor. I assume that's why she was allowed, though I have no clue as I don't know the First Presidency's mind. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Interesting to see how the life of the little girl many of us watched on the Sonny and Cher show has developed. She has decided to change gender and will from now on be known as Chaz.Sonny and Cher's child transitioning from female to male - CNN.comThis is clear result when someone keeps listening to those festering voices of the minions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarginOfError Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've heard somewhere that if a candidate for baptism has had a sex change that he/she cannot be baptized, and if a member has this done, he/she will be excommunicated with no chance for rebaptism. Is that true?Individuals who have already undergone gender reassignment surgery may be baptized if the First Presidency gives approval. They may not, however, receive the priesthood, nor may they enter the temple. This appears to be a question of which gender applies—the biological gender or the chosen gender? If a member elects to undergo gender reassignment surgery, it may be cause for disciplinary action. These members may be excommunicated, disfellowshipped, or have no action taken against them. If a person is seeking to have their membership reinstated by the Church, First Presidency approval is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Half right IIRC. I believe the church treats it like any other sin. Before baptism "o.k." but after it is an excommunicationable offenseAny other sin is an excommunicationable offense? I guess I better start driving the speed limit, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I wonder if they ticket thoughts beside speeding? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Chaz? Thats so eighties. How humiliating for her.... him.... it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Chaz? Thats so eighties. How humiliating for her.... him.... it.I don't see how it's the least bit humiliating. It's her own choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADoyle90815 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) It's his own choice to go through with the operation, so it's not up to any of us to judge Chaz. If that's what he wants, then it's fine with me, and I wish him well. Edited June 12, 2009 by ADoyle90815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 This is clear result when someone keeps listening to those festering voices of the minions. Our festering minions or their festering minions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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