bytor2112 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 At the gym, an attractive and fit young lady is working out near you. She is wearing"exercise" clothing......tight and smallish shorts and some kind of tight fitting top. She is tan and oh so fit. There are perhaps many of these young ladies around at the gym....you notice, after all you have eyes. You don't stare or gasp or wipe drool from your chin....but you do notice. You might even look forward to the gym a bit more and feel a bit more motivated to work out. The little voice inside your head might be saying,."Holy Cow....or va-va-voom or she's so hot she just can't be human." (Ladies please feel free to change the scenario to reflect an uber buff fellow). So, when do your thoughts cross the line? As soon as you notice......as soon as you think va-va-voom, or is that ok as long as you don't need to wipe drool and aren't wishing the shorts were even shorter? Just curious? Note: Bytor is not necessarily guilty of ANY of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenRaines Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 bytor, have you see me staring at the gym? It is one of the reasons I go to the gym so much. :) Ben Raines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 When you begin to undress said hoochy, you have crossed the line. Dudes will be dudes. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed-and-confused Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think that appreciating a beautiful woman is a fine thing, as one might appreciate ANYTHING beautiful, as long as one is able to remain detatched from said thing and not want to "own" it, pocess it, or even, in some cases, "rent" it (not have it for always, but only short term)........then it becomes sinful........IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanette Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 My take: if the admiration is visual, OK. If you're starting to think in lustful terms, you're on shaky moral ground (if you're married, you should only be thinking that way about your spouse, Christ said, and if you're not married, you shouldn't be thinking lustfully about anyone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaviusHambonius Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think you cross the line as soon as you start having lustful thought and fantasies about her. As far as the drool, perhaps the guy just came from the dentist -- so that's exusable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Bytor, I think you're fine as long as you don't ask her out. However, the asking out part is fine for single guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Bytor do we attend the same gym? I'll try and wear my shorts just a little longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 For the record, I never even thought of pushing the laught button on Pam's post...nor did I find it anything other than straightforward thought. As for the gym...that's why I don't exercise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 haha PC...always the diplomat. Want me to push the laugh button for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy740 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 When you begin to undress said hoochy, you have crossed the line. Dudes will be dudes. IMHOHey, there's a POOL at my gym! I don't have to "undress" her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misshalfway Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) · Hidden Hidden Bytor do we attend the same gym? I'll try and wear my shorts just a little longer. Oh be quiet Pam. He is staring at me! (flipping my hair) Edited June 21, 2009 by Misshalfway Link to comment
Misshalfway Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Bytor......you were drooling at the gym?? How embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Hey, there's a POOL at my gym! I don't have to "undress" her! Ah, sort of like the old Deseret Gym in bygone days. *just joking. That was only same sex nudity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misshalfway Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 At the gym, an attractive and fit young lady is working out near you. She is wearing"exercise" clothing......tight and smallish shorts and some kind of tight fitting top. She is tan and oh so fit. There are perhaps many of these young ladies around at the gym....you notice, after all you have eyes. You don't stare or gasp or wipe drool from your chin....but you do notice. You might even look forward to the gym a bit more and feel a bit more motivated to work out. The little voice inside your head might be saying,."Holy Cow....or va-va-voom or she's so hot she just can't be human." (Ladies please feel free to change the scenario to reflect an uber buff fellow).So, when do your thoughts cross the line? As soon as you notice......as soon as you think va-va-voom, or is that ok as long as you don't need to wipe drool and aren't wishing the shorts were even shorter? Just curious?Note: Bytor is not necessarily guilty of ANY of the above.You know....the Elder's on my mission (some of them) used to be like this when a new sister would come into the mish. Had to slap their little faces and put their tongues back in their mouths and help them walk back home.You poor men! Women really do have all the power! Bwahahahahahha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Well, personally, if I had reached the "va-va-voom" stage, I think my thoughts would already be over the line. But I'm a woman...what do I know? Actually, it reminds me of a movie scene. I'm not one to tend to quote or even refer to LDS movies, but it makes me think of the scene in God's Army when they're in the restaurant and the elders tell the new kid, "If you don't look once, you're not a man. If you look twice, you're not a missionary." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) "But this much I can tell you, that if ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, and observe the commandments of God, and continue in the faith of what ye have heard concerning the coming of our Lord, even unto the end of your lives, ye must perish. And now, O man, remember, and perish not."Mosiah 4:30"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."Matthew 5:28These two scriptures- and others- lead me to believe that our thoughts are judged as if we had actually committed the thought-of action in reality (however, in the mind, I believe the Lord weighs the "desires of our heart" more heavily than when judging our actions). According to that line of thought, then any action that would be immoral would be immoral to contemplate doing ("thinking" it in our hearts). Therefore, the line of what's too much to think about doing is the exact same line about what's to much to actually do. I'm not 100% sure if that's the whole truth, but it seems to me to be true.In any event, one could easily sin in the mind and not take the step to ask the lady out or attempt to make any contact, as has been suggested earlier in this thread (jokingly). Edited June 22, 2009 by Maxel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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