Obama's Speech transcript

[ADoyle90815]

Here's the "socialist" speech that Obama is going to give tomorrow. To me, it's just a "study hard and stay in school" speech and something that not all children get from their parents.

Media Resources Prepared School Remarks

[jadams_4040]

Here's the "socialist" speech that Obama is going to give tomorrow. To me, it's just a "study hard and stay in school" speech and something that not all children get from their parents.

Media Resources Prepared School Remarks

Of course it was going to be a good speech from the get go; its absolutely amazing to me how people are being brainwashed into teaching there kids to "disrepect" the president of the united states; it sure didnt used to be acceptable to normal american citizens to teach kids to be un patriotic; Do they really beleive the president was planning to tell the kids to be socialist or something else? this whole issue of our president trying to brainwash children into his agenda is simply rediculas.

[prisonchaplain]

jadams...did you see what you just did? WOW...the power of bias! Right-wingers are brainwashing their kids to be disrespectful to the President...BUT...only complete nutjobs would think Obama would attempt to brainwash.

So, I'll make another valiant attempt to explain...at minimum, a President addressing school children on school time is a media-op--the adult leader of our country using schoolchildren to bolster his image. His intentions may be noble, but, by definition this is that. In addition, should even the slightest suggestion that any policy be considered find its way into his speech, he'll be guilty of politicizing school children. If he hasn't done that, does he really deserve kudos for restraining himself???

That's the bottom line. The intentional exaggeration of the conservative perspective on this issue, in the other string is disappointing. Broadbrushing all criticism as stupid and indicative of latent violence is just over the top.

[Palerider]

Of course it was going to be a good speech from the get go; its absolutely amazing to me how people are being brainwashed into teaching there kids to "disrepect" the president of the united states; it sure didnt used to be acceptable to normal american citizens to teach kids to be un patriotic; Do they really beleive the president was planning to tell the kids to be socialist or something else? this whole issue of our president trying to brainwash children into his agenda is simply rediculas.

Just like the "disrespect" they learned from their parents when Bush was President...

[talisyn]

Two wrongs do not make a right.

I was very clear to my daughter that both Democrats and Republicans love their country but they have different ways of making things better. Living in Idaho she has plenty of opportunity to see Reps in action, and has learned that even though they may vote different from her mom we all can still be friends. I wish others would do the same....

Wow that makes me sound like Mary Poppins. Disclaimer: I am not a perfect mom though I do have moments of brilliance

[prisonchaplain]

Being Democrat in Idaho is sorta like being Republican in the Seattle area. Wanna trade merit badges? :-)

[Just_A_Guy]

I notice the President intends to close his speech with "God bless America".

Indoctrination. INDOCTRINATION, I tell you!

[talisyn]

Being Democrat in Idaho is sorta like being Republican in the Seattle area. Wanna trade merit badges? :-)

Haha sure. Don't you hate the feeling that your vote doesn't count?

[astral]

Laura Bush defends Obama school speech

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[john doe]

Of course it was going to be a good speech from the get go; its absolutely amazing to me how people are being brainwashed into teaching there kids to "disrepect" the president of the united states; it sure didnt used to be acceptable to normal american citizens to teach kids to be un patriotic; Do they really beleive the president was planning to tell the kids to be socialist or something else? this whole issue of our president trying to brainwash children into his agenda is simply rediculas.

Yeah, this is new behavior just in the last 8 months. No one ever said anything bad about Bush or even implied that he is some kind of stupid when he was president.

[Moksha]

In addition, should even the slightest suggestion that any policy be considered find its way into his speech, he'll be guilty of politicizing school children. If he hasn't done that, does he really deserve kudos for restraining himself???

Is this remark coming from someone who wishes to inject prayers into public school?

[Palerider]

I can see now that you people are making me get my Angry Mob costume back on.....look out...:cool:

[lilered]

Of course it was going to be a good speech from the get go; its absolutely amazing to me how people are being brainwashed into teaching there kids to "disrepect" the president of the united states; it sure didnt used to be acceptable to normal american citizens to teach kids to be un patriotic; Do they really beleive the president was planning to tell the kids to be socialist or something else? this whole issue of our president trying to brainwash children into his agenda is simply rediculas.

Perhaps you are right in your opinion. There is another explanation which might also have some credibility in explaining this phenomena. That the Americian people in general simply mistrust all Politicial Leaders and their motives, regardless of party affiliation.

Congressional Approval Rating = 20% and falling, Bushes Approval Rating was 32% at the end, and Obamas is now at 62% and falling.

[Maxel]

I found subliminal messages in his speech, hidden in the writing of the words!!

I'm... a... com...mun...is...t.

[G]u..n...s... are the... so...ur...ce... of... all... ev...il.

o...y...le...nt... [G]re...en... will... be... provid...ing... your... health...care.

Edited September 8, 2009 by Maxel

[Maxel]

On a serious note, I'm disappointed to see which role he relegates to teachers, parents, and the government. Respectively:

Teachers are supposed to inspire and teach.

Parents are supposed to keep kids on track, make sure kids get their homework done, and not let them waste their lives on TV and video games.

The government's job is to set high standards, support the teachers and principals, and fix the schools that are't working.

Anyone else think that the parents have been relegated to the sidelines in this scenario, and its the government's job to make sure that the whole situation improves?

Subtle things like that are the reason that (if I had kids) I'd have them wait until they got home to watch it, with me.

[Elphaba]

at minimum, a President addressing school children on school time is a media-op--the adult leader of our country using schoolchildren to bolster his image.

On May 13, 1986, President Reagan broadcast a speech to the nation's high school students. Given he was the adult leader of our country, do you believe he used the high school students as a media-op to bolster his image? Additionally, were you as openly critical of Reagan for doing the same things you now accuse and criticize President Obama for?

His intentions may be noble, but, by definition this is that. In addition, should even the slightest suggestion that any policy be considered find its way into his speech, he'll be guilty of politicizing school children. If he hasn't done that, does he really deserve kudos for restraining himself???

President Reagan's speech to the high school students, combined with the government-provided teacher's guide, encouraged the students to actively discuss Reagan's political beliefs and ambitions.

This is, by your definition, politicizing the high school students. So, again, were you as critical of Reagan as you are now of Obama?

Below I've pulled a list of issues President Reagan addressed from the speech's transcript. All of them fall into three categories: President Reagan’s personal beliefs, his political positions and beliefs, and questions urging the student to express their opinions about Reagan and his politics.

Just Say No

It’s up to the students to stop drug trade

American elections

It’s our duty to bring the values of the American Revolution to all peoples of the world.

America leads the world in Nobel Prizes

The basic values of faith and family.

Line-item veto

Federal deficit

Reducing tax rates

Minority education opportunities

US Space Program

Gun Control

Women Political Leaders

America provides religious freedom

America’s Great Melting Pot

Must reaffirm our traditional moral value

Again, President Reagan was praised for including these issues in his speech because it encouraged the high-school students to become aware of his political issues and ambitions. Yet if President Obama had done the same, conservatives would have been more outraged than they already are.

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The following is a teacher’s guide for a course about Ronald Reagan, called: The Great Communicator Files: “Challenger Speech”

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/education/For%20Educators/challenger-teachingresources.pdf

Educators/Challenger Teaching Resources

The Great Communicator Files: "Challenger Speech" File

Speechmaking and Speech Writing

Engage/Excite/Educate

Note: I pulled questions from the teacher’s guide that instructed the children to answer questions about President Reagan himself.

Challenger: Speech File--Teacher Answer Guide

Overview

Student Questionnaire

1. What important address was the president expecting to give that night?

2. List two adjectives to describe the mood of the president and of the nation on this day.

3. Imagine you are the president and have just been informed of this incident. What do you think your role is in this tragedy?

4. List two changes which the president incorporated in his remarks.

5. List two changes which the president did NOT incorporate in his remarks.

6. Do you think the president would continue to support the space program after this

incident?

7. If you have not already done so, read President Reagan's "Address to the Nation: Death of Space Shuttle Challenger Crew."

8. In two paragraphs or more, write your own response to the president.

Why is it that when President Obama asked the students one question about what they could do to help the president, the conservatives are outraged; yet, President Reagan consistently reinforced his position as the POTUS, and how important it was to all nations, and was praised for it.

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To recap:　

Were you as critical of President Reagan when he used the high-school students to politicize his political platform and bolster his image?

Were you as critical of Reagan when he provided government-developed learning materials to the students that encouraged them to discuss Reagan's political responsibilities as the POTUS?

Were you as critical of Reagan when he participated in the government's development of a civics and speech curriculum designed for elementary, junior and high school students?

Was anyone here as critical of Reagan when he did the very same thing conservatives are now outraged at Obama for?

I see a huge double standard here, between people who vilify Obama for exploiting our children, and Reagan, who was praised for doing exactly the same thing, and far more.

Why is that?

Elphaba

Edited September 8, 2009 by Elphaba
minor wording changes--doesn't change context

[Elphaba]

I found subliminal messages in his speech, hidden in the writing of the words!!

Those were great.

I decided to see if I could find any subliminals as well, and sure enough, I found: O . . . LI. . . GA . . RHY!

Elph

[Palerider]

The message I found was.....Drink more kool aid.....:lol:

[Palerider]

I was waiting to see if someone was going to mention this...no one did....my favorite Liberal mentioned Reagan's speech.....also in 1991 Bush gave a speech to school children and the Democrats called it nothing more that a paid political speech and that the Dept of Education should not be a part of it.

So, my point is.....they argue over everything...both sides of the aisle

here is the link.....one of my favorite politicians spoke out....Flashback to 1991: Gephardt Called Bush's Speech to Students 'Paid Political Advertising' | Brokencountry.com

here is another link.....Flashback 1991: Gephardt Called Bush's Speech to Students 'Paid Political Advertising' | NewsBusters.org

Edited September 8, 2009 by Palerider

[Just_A_Guy]

From Instapundit:

ANN ALTHOUSE: Obama’s Speech to Kids Is Nearly 10x As Long As The Gettysburg Address (which was given to adults). Not ten times as good, though.

. . . [And now the clincher --JAG]

And, from the comments: “Ha, this will play out exactly as I thought it might. My son adores Obama – entirely from things he’s heard at school. By the end of this, he’s going to think of the dude as just one more boring windbag.”

[Elphaba]

I was waiting to see if someone was going to mention this...no one did....my favorite Liberal mentioned Reagan's speech.....also in 1991 Bush gave a speech to school children and the Democrats called it nothing more that a paid political speech and that the Dept of Education should not be a part of it.

So, my point is.....they argue over everything...both sides of the aisle

here is the link.....one of my favorite politicians spoke out....Flashback to 1991: Gephardt Called Bush's Speech to Students 'Paid Political Advertising' | Brokencountry.com

here is another link.....Flashback 1991: Gephardt Called Bush's Speech to Students 'Paid Political Advertising' | NewsBusters.org

Actually I was going to mention Bush's speech, but my post was already so long I thought it would get lost in it.

I did not know about Gephard'ts accusations, but I'm not surprised.

I am amazed at the short-term memory loss our elected officials suffer from. After all, 1991 is not all that long ago, and you would think the Republicans would remember how juvenile the Democrats were coming up with absurd accusations of "Paid Political Advertising."

Instead, they act like petulant teenagers, reveling in an "I got you back!" mindset.

Bleh.

[mightynancy]

Most children do get it from their parents. I'm tired of everyone bashing parents instead of supporting them.

This is probably true for your children. In the school where I work, it's not that easy. A LOT of children don't get the "education is important" message from their parents. But hey, get this! We don't bash the parents (gasp!). We invite them. We invite them to decision-making meetings to help chart a course for kids who struggle. We invite them to events that help families help their students at home. We invite them to fun events on school grounds (ice cream social, dances, etc). We invite them to share their ideas with us. We are very grateful for the parents who help their students do their best without any invitation from us - they are the backbone of our school.

A lot of "my" kids need to hear this speech. Education can be a wonderful equalizer...this is a country where nearly anyone can make a success of himself, and education is the key.

[prisonchaplain]

Is this remark coming from someone who wishes to inject prayers into public school?

Actually, Clinton found the right balance--equal access. If you allow student clubs to form, you can't deny religious ones. That's good enough for me. However, remember that circa the early 60s vague civic religion was accepted--prayer was ejected from public schools.

[prisonchaplain]

On May 13, 1986, President Reagan broadcast a speech to the nation's high school students. Given he was the adult leader of our country, do you believe he used the high school students as a media-op to bolster his image? Additionally, were you as openly critical of Reagan for doing the same things you now accuse and criticize President Obama for?

I wasn't aware..even then. This during school hours, with government-issued lesson plan helps? Then, yeah...he was using students to bolster his image, and would deserve the same mild criticism I offer Obama.

President Reagan's speech to the high school students, combined with the government-provided teacher's guide, encouraged the students to actively discuss Reagan's political beliefs and ambitions.

This is, by your definition, politicizing the high school students. So, again, were you as critical of Reagan as you are now of Obama?

I wasn't aware of this, and am surprised it's not been brought up until now. Where was I in 1986--yikes. In any case, yeah, Reagan would be as guilty as Obama...again, deserving of mild criticism.

[prisonchaplain]

Actually I was going to mention Bush's speech, but my post was already so long I thought it would get lost in it.

I did not know about Gephard'ts accusations, but I'm not surprised.

I am amazed at the short-term memory loss our elected officials suffer from. After all, 1991 is not all that long ago, and you would think the Republicans would remember how juvenile the Democrats were coming up with absurd accusations of "Paid Political Advertising."

Instead, they act like petulant teenagers, reveling in an "I got you back!" mindset.

Bleh.

Oh come now...we're doomed if we do and doormats if we don't. Democrats probably patted themselves on the back for protecting kids from politicization back then, with media backing. Now, Republicans, who point out the same concerns, are petulant teenagers playing "gotcha back?" Personally, I was unaware of Bush or Reagan's speeches, doubt they were broadcast in nearly as many schools, and my honest first reaction was, "What...Obama's jealous of Kim Jongil?" Maybe it was my years in Korea, but it just hit me as something a third-world communist dictator would do. Okay, so those were just impressions. After thinking it out, I concluded that it wasn't such a big deal, but using kids to bolster image is more tacky than visionary.

Now I hear that Bush I and Reagan did this, and my counsel, 20-years too late is, "What were you thinking about???"