Churchmouse Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Reports are this is a slap in the face at President Bush for using military action after 911 which has been condemned by the committee ever since he did it. So, we can truthfully say about this award "IT'S BUSH'S FAULT". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Actually, the word in Stockholm Sweden is that this is the consolation prize for not winning the Olympics for Chicago. I think Sweden is giving the award to Pres Obama for not bombing Stockholm after they humiliated him last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) These prizes are meaningless since the days of offering to those who really don't deserve it. We know who they are…even consider this prize on the same par as 'Time Magazine' person of the year. Now, what feelings will be expressed by this nation when finally in this nation’s financial credit collapses based on fiat spending done by this administration, are they going to blame Bush also? Edited October 9, 2009 by Hemidakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpacktr Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 And any of us are surprised....why? I'm just surprised that they didn't announce that he was the winner for the rest of his life. He is, after all... oh wait, I got chastised last time I used that language on a religion forum to describe 'HIM'. I think that all of the songs coming out of the schools in praise of HIM are what put HIM over the top... MMM, MMM, MMM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Obama.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisyn Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 It really is amazing to me, seeing this huge disconnect between those who like Pres. Obama and those who do not. He's a loser when Chicago lost out on the Olympics yet when he gets a cool award for helping to change the perception of the world towards the United States it suddenly doesn't mean anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, the real question here, did he really deserve it or was it a political move and playing favortism to a person? I am sure, there are many who did more for the world here but not in the political limelight should of deserve it. This move is no different than Gore receiving a nobel prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisyn Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Gore did a lot to advance the cause against global warming, whether it's actually happening or not lol. That didn't exactly come from nowhere. My disagreement with his award was that it should have been in the science category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Perhaps so by the media standard but not by his own example of lifestyle by adding greater CO2 emmisions to the global problem than what leaves the portal of the frontal orifice. Saying something and living it is a problem for Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisyn Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 He bought carbon credits to offset his family's carbon footprint. I love talking in enviromental-speak Getting back to the Nobel peace prize, well any Nobel prize, a whole bunch of it is deeply political. You think the peace prize is bad? You should see what goes on behind the scenes in the science part! Our Washington lobbyists are infants compared to acadamia. I'm glad Pres. Obama got this award, even if it's just because of how his message makes others feel. Feelings become actions, and actions are what changes the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpacktr Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'll agree that it is political, but is it really an award that is rooted in peace? I know that it says it in the title, but remember when Yassir Arafat won it? Huh?? The UN?? What?? Le Duc Tho, President of North Viet Nam? Algore? Old Carnack Joke: The answer is Yassir Arafat. Question: what is the sound that Dolly Parton's bra makes when she takes it off? I know that some think that Obama has made us more palatible to the rest of the world. Well, you can look at that in many ways. I personally think that the Europeans perception of a peacemaker is based upon the Neville Chamberlain model, which is that the weaker you are the more peaceful you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 It really is amazing to me, seeing this huge disconnect between those who like Pres. Obama and those who do not. He's a loser when Chicago lost out on the Olympics yet when he gets a cool award for helping to change the perception of the world towards the United States it suddenly doesn't mean anything?I like Pres Obama. The thing is, this prize is normally awarded to someone who actually DID something. What has Pres Obama done to deserve it?They said it's because he was trying to bring peace and global climate efforts. Well, so have dozens of other international leaders. Why didn't they all get it together?How does one compare Pres Obama's efforts to Gandhi? Or to Sadat and Begin when they actually made peace between Egypt and Israel? Did Pres Obama bring peace to Iraq or Afghanistan? Did he close Guantanamo? Did he get Iran to agree to stop developing nukes?This is akin to giving a kid an "A" in class because he tried. Doesn't matter that others actually got "A"s on their tests and turned in all their papers, etc. This kid gets the same or better than them, simply because he made something of an effort.The problem of him receiving it without visually earning it is now many people will wonder what the real reason was for giving it to him. Some will wonder if it is just because he's 1. not George W. Bush, and 2. the first African-American president. I hate that people will think this, but by giving him the award without him earning it, that is what it possibly appears to be. IOW, is Stockholm giving out awards based on race? That's what it looks like, and is sad if it is, because Pres Obama deserves more respect than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hordak Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Old Carnack Joke: The answer is Yassir Arafat. Question: what is the sound that Dolly Parton's bra makes when she takes it off?Well at least you gave us modern Ice hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 My Dh said that it is because he got USA out of Iran.... well I heard there was a deley... Reumptoms 1 and 2 are to be considered. Anyway I am suprised it went to USA president as usually here everyone is against USA president.... Nobels price is Swedish BUT it is Norwegeans who decide to whom it will be given.... Nobel did not trust that Swedish could give it to the right person..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 They were saying on the radio today that it is because since last year he has been called by some the Prince of Peace........... it stands to reason that he would get his own award. I just don't know why they didn't give him the award for economics as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpacktr Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well at least you gave us modern Ice hockeyHordak, I gotta admit, I am TOTALLY lost as to what this means. Huh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisyn Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 They were saying on the radio today that it is because since last year he has been called by some the Prince of Peace........... it stands to reason that he would get his own award. I just don't know why they didn't give him the award for economics as well.Because that award goes to Bush II, he was president for 8 years. Our new president was merely a 1 term senator at that time This is a joke, mods!!!! I meant us all to chuckle a bit. No seriousness intended (see smiley face above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefche Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'm not really aware of any awards that actually mean something. I don't watch any award shows anymore because they are so political--Grammy, Oscar, Emmy, etc. True talent is overlooked for the popular. I began to realize the same holds true for the Nobel prizes. Even the Olympics favor athletes who come from countries that can afford to train them and provide better for them--and the Olympics are no longer for amateurs, now it's professional athletes that win those awards. I don't agree with this "award him for the possibility he may broker peace" move. But, if it will allow him to actually get a foot in the door to countries/leaders who otherwise may have ignored him (is there anyone that can ignore him???), then good. Afterall, Gore got it for buying indulgences to overlook his expending energy at an alarmaing rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hordak Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Hordak, I gotta admit, I am TOTALLY lost as to what this means. Huh??I thought carnack was a misspelling of Canuck. Thinking it was a bad Canadian joke, i was pointing out the best thing Canada has given us. Ice hockey:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Because that award goes to Bush II, he was president for 8 years. Our new president was merely a 1 term senator at that time This is a joke, mods!!!! I meant us all to chuckle a bit. No seriousness intended (see smiley face above). Talisyn you are really pushing your luck here. First it's the 5 time mention of the "s" word and now this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Carter, Gore and now Obama (notice a trend toward wacky worthlessness here)....poor Bill, he must be really hacked off right now. Sounds like a bribe to get Obama to not increase troop strength in Afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Because that award goes to Bush II, he was president for 8 years. Our new president was merely a 1 term senator at that time This is a joke, mods!!!! I meant us all to chuckle a bit. No seriousness intended (see smiley face above). Tell me, did the 'Prince of Peace' vote for or encourage TARP and the other economic 'stimulus' packages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hordak Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Obama's Nobel: The Last Thing He Needs - TIMESometimes the words come first. Sometimes, it's better to let actions speak for themselves.The runner upGreg Mortenson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpacktr Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I thought carnack was a misspelling of Canuck. Thinking it was a bad Canadian joke, i was pointing out the best thing Canada has given us. Ice hockey:DOkay, lol. For some reason, I thought there was some weird joke about either Arafat or Parton and ice hockey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpacktr Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 to echo what Churchmouse said in the first post: Fox News just posted that Obama got it as a result of NOT being Bush... So, technically, it IS Bush's fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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