carlimac Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 That would be the Speaker of the House. As you say, the president pro tempore is third in line, not second.That's what I said. 1-President Obama, 2- VP Biden, 3-Orrin Hatch http://www.sltrib.com/home/2026696-155/hatch-now-third-in-line-for Quote
prisonchaplain Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I still have Why Evangelicals Should Vote for Romney -- And Feel Good About It! on my Kindle. I'd be torn between him and Bush. Both have their advantages and liabilities, and I could be satisfied with either one. To some here that makes me a hopeless moderate/liberal sell out. To others, a hopeless and compassionless betrayer of the down and out. I just want a government that's run smart, does a little bit, and does that well. Palerider 1 Quote
PolarVortex Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 That's what I said. 1-President Obama, 2- VP Biden, 3-Orrin Hatch http://www.sltrib.com/home/2026696-155/hatch-now-third-in-line-for I think the Speaker of the House comes between the Veep and Sen. Hatch. Obama is #0, not #1. Nancy Pelosi is my congresswoman, and I remember all the hoopla here when she became speaker of the house and was only a heartbeat away from the presidency. And it was Dick Cheney's heart, ominously. prisonchaplain and Vort 2 Quote
carlimac Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Back to the OP, I'm not very interested in watching Romney run and lose again. I think he'd be a great president but I don't think he can win. Also, I'm not very excited about hearing all the criticisms of a "President Romney" which would increase exponentially if he actually won, somehow being tied to his church membership and to the wacko doctrines and practices of the church. Ugh! But hey, maybe I could have Ann as my VT. ( We're currently in the process of making a move to DC for my husband's job.) Quote
carlimac Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I think the Speaker of the House comes between the Veep and Sen. Hatch. Obama is #0, not #1. Nancy Pelosi is my congresswoman, and I remember all the hoopla here when she became speaker of the house and was only a heartbeat away from the presidency. And it was Dick Cheney's heart, ominously.Oops, you're right. I looked at the chart wrong. So Boehner would have to be under the same tree when lightning strikes. What are the chances of those three going golfing in a thunderstorm together? Edited January 13, 2015 by carlimac PolarVortex 1 Quote
Crypto Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I am aware of this because he is in my daughter's ward and now comes to church with three federal agents. I bet the federal agents fit right in with their suits and ties! carlimac 1 Quote
Palerider Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I still have Why Evangelicals Should Vote for Romney -- And Feel Good About It! on my Kindle. I'd be torn between him and Bush. Both have their advantages and liabilities, and I could be satisfied with either one. To some here that makes me a hopeless moderate/liberal sell out. To others, a hopeless and compassionless betrayer of the down and out. I just want a government that's run smart, does a little bit, and does that well. That would be ok with me....my fear is that Chris Christie will get into the race and take it all. Quote
Backroads Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Just a quick note: Y'all know the perennial headache that political threads can be. We're all friends here. Let's keep it that way. I admit, I was amazed to see 3 pages without the little lock.An open political thread surprises me.Anywho... I did not vote for Romney last time, but I'd like to see him run again. Quote
carlimac Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 That would be ok with me....my fear is that Chris Christie will get into the race and take it all. Please no! Palerider 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 It is, but in America much more people pay attention to the presidential elections than the senatorial elections, especially those that are not in their state. I live in a state far, far away from Nevada and I assure you that more people know of Romney being LDS then who Harry Reid even is. Tragically, in America few people even know who their OWN senators and congressmen are. Except that Harry Reid is not ONLY a senator... he was the Senate Majority Leader who gave Bush 43 grief on his first term and half of his second term earning a lot of Fox News special mentions... Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Almost no-one outside of the US knows who Harry Reid is. Mitt Romney on the other hand is well known internationally. I don't know why you say this... Harry Reid is very popular outside of the US... especially in the Middle East... Being the Senate Majority Whip when Bush declared war in Iraq, he was the loudest voice AGAINST it - which the enemies of the US lapped up eagerly... Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, right. Dude... my uncle - a Mayor of a tiny town in the Philippines know Harry Reid is a Mormon... no, he doesn't know Donny Osmond is a Mormon... but he does know David Archuleta is. His source... the Philippine press... who basically get much of their info from the American or British press. Edited January 13, 2015 by anatess Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Actually, when JFK ran for President it was a big deal...'cause he was the first. Reid may be a known LDS guy, but there is no doubt but that Romney raised curiosity in the minds of a lot of non-members. So, I can see why many members would be excited about the spotlight factor. Hey, I still remember when the AG (John Ashcroft) was AG... B) But that's not fair! I wasn't born yet when JFK was President! Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Except that Harry Reid is not ONLY a senator... he was the Senate Majority Leader who gave Bush 43 grief on his first term and half of his second term earning a lot of Fox News special mentions...Yup. 100% correct. Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I'm actually paying a lot of attention to Ben Carson... he caught my attention when he said he is anti-political correctness... Carson versus Hillary... that would be quite interesting... Quote
Palerider Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Please no!I am with Ya on that one. That's why I said it's a fear. carlimac 1 Quote
PolarVortex Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Tying up some loose ends here with Utah senators, home teaching, and Harry Reid... Senator Mike Lee of Utah grew up in Utah and McLean, Virginia (where I also once lived). When he was a kid there, his home teacher was... Harry Reid. Wikipedia claims that Reid once locked Lee and his brother in a garage as a joke. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 But that's not fair! I wasn't born yet when JFK was President! And I WAS???? Ah well...just run with the AG AG example then! Quote
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PolarVortex Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I'm actually paying a lot of attention to Ben Carson... he caught my attention when he said he is anti-political correctness... Carson versus Hillary... that would be quite interesting... I listen to Ben Carson's YouTube videos at night. He has a really pleasant voice that puts me to sleep within moments. I've heard bits and pieces of many of his speeches and interviews. He's a great guy, but he regularly makes fun of Mormons with a silly joke that I don't even think is that funny. His father was a pastor and a bigamist, and Dr. Carson often says he tells Utah audiences about his father's multiple wives and that the Utah audiences don't find anything remarkable about that. That line usually brings down the house with laughter, but it seems mean-spirited to me. My feeling is that Jeb has this sewn up. The prospect of a Hispanic first lady might pull in some Hispanic votes. Besides, he was a very, very savvy governor, and I think the nation will be groaning for a President with executive experience. prisonchaplain 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I listen to Ben Carson's YouTube videos at night. He has a really pleasant voice that puts me to sleep within moments. I've heard bits and pieces of many of his speeches and interviews. He's a great guy, but he regularly makes fun of Mormons with a silly joke that I don't even think is that funny. His father was a pastor and a bigamist, and Dr. Carson often says he tells Utah audiences about his father's multiple wives and that the Utah audiences don't find anything remarkable about that. That line usually brings down the house with laughter, but it seems mean-spirited to me. My feeling is that Jeb has this sewn up. The prospect of a Hispanic first lady might pull in some Hispanic votes. Besides, he was a very, very savvy governor, and I think the nation will be groaning for a President with executive experience. Aarrmmm... see, I really don't like this "Black vote", "Hispanic vote", "Jewish vote"... etc. There's this Congresswoman in Florida - I coulda sworn they drew her district in a zigzaggy way just so she'll have mostly blacks in her district... because, if she would run in any other type of demographic, she has no prayer... And anybody trying to run on these divisive platforms turns me off. That's one thing I really liked about Romney's 2012 message - he was not out to get the "Black vote" - he was out to get the "American vote". His message to the Black voters is the exact same message to everybody else. Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Dude... my uncle - a Mayor of a tiny town in the Philippines know Harry Reid is a Mormon... no, he doesn't know Donny Osmond is a Mormon... but he does know David Archuleta is. His source... the Philippine press... who basically get much of their info from the American or British press. Maybe I shouldn't have "ha ha ha'd". But that's not really the point. I would agree with it if you'd limited it to those who are politically informed to some degree or another. But there's a whole wide world of people who are, decidedly, politically uninformed who know who Mitt Romney is and that he's a Mormon who have never heard of Harry Reid. Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 Maybe I shouldn't have "ha ha ha'd". But that's not really the point. I would agree with it if you'd limited it to those who are politically informed to some degree or another. But there's a whole wide world of people who are, decidedly, politically uninformed who know who Mitt Romney is and that he's a Mormon who have never heard of Harry Reid. You know... they always show this on videos... where some interviewer guy goes out to like... a big university... and ask them political things and they come up with the craziest answers... I always thought these people they feature are not the norm for school campuses... and then I attended an American university... So yeah... you may be right on this one... considering the number of people who get their news from Saturday Night Live... Quote
PolarVortex Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I agree, but some voters in this country prefer to vote for candidates of their own clan. It has been going on for a long time, and members of every ethnic group do it. When I was a kid, I had relatives who voted for candidates with Swedish last names above anything else. They would have voted for Satan himself if his name had ended with -son, -strom, -holm, or -gren. Quote
Guest Posted January 13, 2015 Report Posted January 13, 2015 I agree, but some voters in this country prefer to vote for candidates of their own clan. It has been going on for a long time, and members of every ethnic group do it. When I was a kid, I had relatives who voted for candidates with Swedish last names above anything else. They would have voted for Satan himself if his name had ended with -son, -strom, -holm, or -gren. That's just fine. It's part and partial of the price for Freedom. But the thing is, this shouldn't be anywhere close to being relevant to the majority vote. Quote
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