unixknight Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 So this happened. Who knew something like this would happen? Oh... wait... plenty of people did. And when they spoke out, were told to shut up and stop being transphobic or whatever the current label is. mirkwood, LeSellers and Jane_Doe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSellers Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 C'mon, it's not what you think. This boy-turned-girl was not just transgendered, she is also lesbian. Lehi unixknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixknight Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, LeSellers said: C'mon, it's not what you think. This boy-turned-girl was not just transgendered, she is also lesbian. If I were a betting man, I'd wager a week's pay against a jelly doughnut that apologists will use EXACTLY that reason, only they won't be joking. Backroads and LeSellers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSellers Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, unixknight said: If I were a betting man, I'd wager a week's pay against a jelly doughnut that apologists will use EXACTLY that reason, only they won't be joking. Doubtless you'd win the bet. Lehi unixknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wasn't Limbaugh making wisecracks about "lesbians, trapped in men's bodies" back in the 1980s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSellers Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wisecracks, yes. Jokes, no. Lehi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Just now, unixknight said: So this happened. Who knew something like this would happen? Oh... wait... plenty of people did. And when they spoke out, were told to shut up and stop being transphobic or whatever the current label is. this sort of thing is not new, and has become much more prevalent with the advent of cheap microcameras, it just not often people are caught. As there are more people who identify as homosexual than transgendered, i'd be more worried about voyeurism along those lines. Altho i wonder what the difference in punishment is between voyeurism and being in a wrong bathroom (without good reason) is. Edited July 21, 2016 by Blackmarch Backroads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesuji Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Do you ever wish we could somehow discover a new planet next door, and that all the decent people could just move there, and all the idiots could stay behind on this world? My only worry is that I wouldn't qualify for the new world Edited July 21, 2016 by tesuji Sunday21 and SpiritDragon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritDragon Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, tesuji said: Do you ever wish we could somehow discover a new planet next door, and that all the decent people could just move there, and all the idiots could stay behind on this world? My only worry is that I wouldn't qualify for the new world That sounds an awful lot like the plan of happiness with the Celestial group being separated from the Telestial and Terrestrial. You and God are on to something here I think. That's added incentive to not end up in the wrong place. Sunday21 and tesuji 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesuji Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 34 minutes ago, SpiritDragon said: That sounds an awful lot like the plan of happiness with the Celestial group being separated from the Telestial and Terrestrial. You and God are on to something here I think. That's added incentive to not end up in the wrong place. Yeah, I always ask myself, what kind of people do I want to be with? Celestial people are nicest to be around, I have to assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixknight Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Blackmarch said: this sort of thing is not new, and has become much more prevalent with the advent of cheap microcameras, it just not often people are caught. As there are more people who identify as homosexual than transgendered, i'd be more worried about voyeurism along those lines. Makes sense, though at least in the case of voyeurism in a homosexual context, the victim and the voyeur would be on a more even footing, in terms of the ability to defend one's self. I wouldn't flatter myself into thinking that some gay man would even want to take pics of me, but at least if he did I wouldn't be afraid of a physical confrontation. If I were physically smaller and perhaps less strong than the person with the camera, I'd fear for my safety as well as my privacy. Frankly, I'm grateful that in this case there was no physical assault at least. That's the one I'm dreading the most. Know what else rubs me all wrong about this case? The difficulty in finding news about it. None of the major carriers even bothered reporting it as far as I can tell. (Try and contain your surprise.) LeSellers and Blackmarch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blackmarch said: Altho i wonder what the difference in punishment is between voyeurism and being in a wrong bathroom (without good reason) is. I vaguely remember hearing, in law school, that in the vast majority of cases there aren't specific state laws or local ordinances decreeing a criminal punishment for using the wrong bathroom. Where there's no such statute/ordinance, I imagine that criminally the most you could hit them with would be a plain-vanilla trespassing charge, since they're at a location where the facility's owner clearly doesn't intend for them to be. That, I think, is part of the brouhaha about the Charlotte city ordinance--as I recall, Charlotte was trying to tell private property owners that they couldn't make that sort of distinction on their own property; and that's one of the things that the new North Carolina statute was trying to address. Edited July 21, 2016 by Just_A_Guy Blackmarch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 8 hours ago, tesuji said: Yeah, I always ask myself, what kind of people do I want to be with? Celestial people are nicest to be around, I have to assume Sounds like the temple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 On 7/20/2016 at 5:24 PM, unixknight said: So this happened. Who knew something like this would happen? Oh... wait... plenty of people did. And when they spoke out, were told to shut up and stop being transphobic or whatever the current label is. It's actually worse than what I heard predicted. One side would say, "You do realize creepy creeps will take advantage of this, don't you." The other side replied, "Why would you assume transgendered people are creepy creeps!?". "I didn't. The law is made to accommodate transgendered people, but it also accommodates creepy creeps." And now, instead of being just any creepy creep, the strawman has come to life! unixknight and LeSellers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuclearfuels Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 False flag. False culture war. Distraction from hundreds of other failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 On 7/21/2016 at 8:08 AM, tesuji said: Do you ever wish we could somehow discover a new planet next door, and that all the decent people could just move there, and all the idiots could stay behind on this world? My only worry is that I wouldn't qualify for the new world the reprieve would only be for a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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