Mullenite Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 100 Items to Disappear First in a Disaster Situation 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens Quote
Guest Username-Removed Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 I like the list. Excellent! Quote
Jbs2763 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 at my mom's house the old out house is still "functional" lol Quote
StrawberryFields Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Well there goes my idea of throwing things I don't need out. Really it is a great reminder, thanks:) Quote
crytsprospect Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Great Advice . We were out of power for 4 days our generator, sterno , fire pit , etc made life very pleasant . Quote
NeuroTypical Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)And hurricane lamps and lamp oil are DIRT CHEAP right now. A bottle of oil is like sixty cents - a lamp is a buck or two. 35. Tuna Fish (in oil)How come in oil? What's wrong with tuna in water? (I store tuna in water, do I need to switch?)LM Quote
Guest Username-Removed Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 I agree with him on the generator thing too. My neighbors start gawking after we all had no power for 4 days in my Cul-De-Sac. They have those beady eyes that stare at your generator! I ended up inviting everyone over and having a "power outage" party which turned things around. But, man, it was a little weird for a while! LOL Quote
havejoy Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 The first 3 things that disappear around here when a hurricane is getting close are: 1-canned tuna 2-bottles water 3-batteries Quote
havejoy Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 I love the list, especially item #100. :) Quote
Mullenite Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Posted April 9, 2008 Generator Conversion Kits to Propane and Natural Gas.Generator Conversion Kits to Propane and Natural Gas.You can count on gasoline . . . to let you down!Gasoline is not a fuel that professionals ever choose to use on backup generators. Hospitals and other large facilities "never" install a gasoline back-up generator. They always use natural gas or diesel. Gasoline has a very limited shelf life and will actually cause engine failure. Worst of all when power outages occur due to ice storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and all other disasters, the first commodity to be hoarded is gasoline. Sadly, long lines (even fistfights) and rationing at gas pumps are a common occurrence during many disasters. The hurricanes that hit Florida last year were sad proof of that. However, working along with FEMA, we were called upon to be of assistance in helping in areas where gasoline was not even available to run generators. Propane, and especially natural gas, were more plentiful and just the ticket to keep the lights on and the crews working. Unfortunately, as some have learned the hard way, if not used often enough, gasoline will gum up the carburetor and will render an engine on the emergency generator useless. Do not get caught with a gummed up carburetor that will not allow your engine to run, on your gasoline generator that you cannot even get fuel for, when you need it the most.Now that you have invested in a backup generator, make sure that it runs when you need it the most. Modify your Generator to run on propane or natural gas or even keep the gasoline option if you like and have the option to run all three fuels on the same engine! Propane and natural gas can save you time, money and aggravation. Our do-it-yourself change over kits allow you to run your gasoline generator on propane (LP Gas), natural gas, or all three. Propane and natural gas are truly a backup fuel for a backup generator. Your engine will last longer, start better in cold weather and even start next year when you go to use it in an emergency. The best part is, with one of our do-it-yourself kits you can change your engine from gasoline to propane or natural gas all by yourself. Why use propane to power your generator?If you have propane available you know you can store propane for years because it does not gum up, go bad, or pollute the air like gasoline does. You can use the 100# (24 gallon) cylinders, little bar-b-q grill type 20# cylinders, which is equivalent to 5 gallons of gasoline, or big tanks like 250, 500 and 1000 gallon ASME tanks.Why use natural gas to power your generator?If you have Natural gas available you would certainly agree that it is probably the most dependable fuel on earth and virtually an unlimited supply. Natural gas is always there. It does not gum up or go stale like gasoline. Here are many more of the benefits: Propane and natural gas powered engines provide the same power as gasoline. Longer, uninterrupted run times! Connect to big tanks or to your natural gas pipe line. Your generator will last longer because of larger fuel supply and less running out under load. Clean burning Alternate fuel will help extend the life of your engine life. Eliminate the "Dirty Port" that gasoline carburetors have that shortens the life of an engine. Click here if you'd like to learn more about adding an adapter to the engine for tri-fuel or about what is involved with drilling a carburetor for dedicated use. This page has pictures and even a video . Kits are available for most four cycle engines like Briggs & Stratton Engines, Craftsman Engines, Honda Engines, Kubota Engines, Onan Engines, Kohler Engines and others. Check the engine page to see if yours is listed.We also carry Kits for Generators such as Briggs and Stratton Generators, Campbell Hausfeld Generators, Coleman Generators, Craftsman Generators, Dayton Generators, Devilbiss Generators, Generac Generators, Homelite Generators, Honda Generators, Kubota Generators, Makita Generators, Onan Generators, Troy-Bilt Generators, Yamaha Generators and those sold at Lowe's and Home Depot. Check the Generator page to see the current listing. Quote
Mullenite Posted April 9, 2008 Author Posted April 9, 2008 · Hidden Hidden Generator Conversion Kits to Propane and Natural Gas.Generator Conversion Kits to Propane and Natural Gas.You can count on gasoline . . . to let you down!Gasoline is not a fuel that professionals ever choose to use on backup generators. Hospitals and other large facilities "never" install a gasoline back-up generator. They always use natural gas or diesel. Gasoline has a very limited shelf life and will actually cause engine failure. Worst of all when power outages occur due to ice storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and all other disasters, the first commodity to be hoarded is gasoline. Sadly, long lines (even fistfights) and rationing at gas pumps are a common occurrence during many disasters. The hurricanes that hit Florida last year were sad proof of that. However, working along with FEMA, we were called upon to be of assistance in helping in areas where gasoline was not even available to run generators. Propane, and especially natural gas, were more plentiful and just the ticket to keep the lights on and the crews working. Unfortunately, as some have learned the hard way, if not used often enough, gasoline will gum up the carburetor and will render an engine on the emergency generator useless. Do not get caught with a gummed up carburetor that will not allow your engine to run, on your gasoline generator that you cannot even get fuel for, when you need it the most.Now that you have invested in a backup generator, make sure that it runs when you need it the most. Modify your Generator to run on propane or natural gas or even keep the gasoline option if you like and have the option to run all three fuels on the same engine! Propane and natural gas can save you time, money and aggravation. Our do-it-yourself change over kits allow you to run your gasoline generator on propane (LP Gas), natural gas, or all three. Propane and natural gas are truly a backup fuel for a backup generator. Your engine will last longer, start better in cold weather and even start next year when you go to use it in an emergency. The best part is, with one of our do-it-yourself kits you can change your engine from gasoline to propane or natural gas all by yourself. Why use propane to power your generator?If you have propane available you know you can store propane for years because it does not gum up, go bad, or pollute the air like gasoline does. You can use the 100# (24 gallon) cylinders, little bar-b-q grill type 20# cylinders, which is equivalent to 5 gallons of gasoline, or big tanks like 250, 500 and 1000 gallon ASME tanks.Why use natural gas to power your generator?If you have Natural gas available you would certainly agree that it is probably the most dependable fuel on earth and virtually an unlimited supply. Natural gas is always there. It does not gum up or go stale like gasoline. Here are many more of the benefits: Propane and natural gas powered engines provide the same power as gasoline. Longer, uninterrupted run times! Connect to big tanks or to your natural gas pipe line. Your generator will last longer because of larger fuel supply and less running out under load. Clean burning Alternate fuel will help extend the life of your engine life. Eliminate the "Dirty Port" that gasoline carburetors have that shortens the life of an engine. Click here if you'd like to learn more about adding an adapter to the engine for tri-fuel or about what is involved with drilling a carburetor for dedicated use. This page has pictures and even a video . Kits are available for most four cycle engines like Briggs & Stratton Engines, Craftsman Engines, Honda Engines, Kubota Engines, Onan Engines, Kohler Engines and others. Check the engine page to see if yours is listed.We also carry Kits for Generators such as Briggs and Stratton Generators, Campbell Hausfeld Generators, Coleman Generators, Craftsman Generators, Dayton Generators, Devilbiss Generators, Generac Generators, Homelite Generators, Honda Generators, Kubota Generators, Makita Generators, Onan Generators, Troy-Bilt Generators, Yamaha Generators and those sold at Lowe's and Home Depot. Check the Generator page to see the current listing.
crytsprospect Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 We are really interested in this. We have a nice generator but as you say storing gasoline in quantity is not such a great idea. We live over 50 miles from the city in the mountains so are more aware and work hard to be prepared. Quote
JohnBirchSociety Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 100 Items to Disappear First in a Disaster Situation1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)2. Water Filters/Purifiers3. Portable Toilets4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar10. Rice - Beans - Wheat11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.17. Survival Guide Book.18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)22. Vitamins23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit35. Tuna Fish (in oil)36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)37. First aid kits38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)41. Flour, yeast & salt42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)51. Fishing supplies/tools52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams53. Duct Tape54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes55. Candles56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags58. Garden tools & supplies59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)67. Board Games, Cards, Dice68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase76. Reading glasses77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)78. "Survival-in-a-Can"79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)85. Lumber (all types)86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.89. Lantern Hangers90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts91. Teas92. Coffee93. Cigarettes94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)95. Paraffin wax96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.97. Chewing gum/candies98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs100. Goats/chickensMight I add one thing? And this will only be useful after the brief historical period where only barter is done (usually 6 months or so)...Real money (Gold or Silver coin)...it will be very useful. Quote
JohnBirchSociety Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 I agree with him on the generator thing too. My neighbors start gawking after we all had no power for 4 days in my Cul-De-Sac. They have those beady eyes that stare at your generator! I ended up inviting everyone over and having a "power outage" party which turned things around. But, man, it was a little weird for a while! LOL Thus, Guns are second on the items list...All the prep will lead to being killed for it if you have nothing to defend it with.I'd profer that in a urban / city area, we won't last long anyways, because its' common knowledge that Mormons are prepared.You'll need to get together at the Chapel and build a fort... Quote
NeuroTypical Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Might I add one thing? And this will only be useful after the brief historical period where only barter is done (usually 6 months or so)...Real money (Gold or Silver coin)...it will be very useful.I've read the stories told buy a guy living in Argentina during their economic collapse. He was surprised by how quickly "we buy gold and silver" signs started popping up all over the place. If he had to go through it all again, he said he'd add a small bag of "junk jewelery" grade gold rings and necklaces and stuff to his preparedness efforts.LM Quote
meredith14 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Posted April 10, 2008 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) I believe I remember the reason is that you want the extra calories. I also think that it tastes better too. But that's my two cents. Quote
WANDERER Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 The tuna fish in oil...I think it is so that you can reuse the oil in cooking etc..(longterm storage of oil in an indirect way). The top 100 list comes from Kosejvo (sp?) and makes interesting reading. Quote
LegendadryPerc Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 good list. Having lived where electricity and trasportation are scarce, and with little money, much of it rings very true! Quote
pam Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 The tuna fish in oil...I think it is so that you can reuse the oil in cooking etc..(longterm storage of oil in an indirect way). The top 100 list comes from Kosejvo (sp?) and makes interesting reading. I was wondering why oil specifically was mentioned. This is actually an awesome list. Things to think about including. Quote
Guest GhostRider Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 Ahhh...generators.. Dad has one for the house to power the "essentials". Fridge and freezer-for the food and dads insulin Direct TV and TV -gotta find out what the weather is a doing and to email me what weather is doing Coffee pot- this is a winter item only. In the summer spring and fall they just use the camp pot on a stove. (ok..folks ARNT LDS) Stove- Again..winter use only Portable heaters thier power goes out alot in the winter and summer due to storms. The problem with the portable ones is that u have to run them every so often to make sure that they are in good working order. The other thing is that you dont leave the choke on when u run it..yes..speaking from experiance here. Dad started it and forgot. changing the plug was a pain in the tookis! The thing with the weapons is this...you should always save your brass. Use it for reloading. Alot of calibers are very expensive ( .45 ACP, .308 and a lot of hunting calibers) with reloading its less expensive and easy to do. We have done it for years. Quote
Hemidakota Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 There was talk last week here in Cali to convert alot of the Desert land into Solar Power. Well, for me, it is time to think about Cosmic Ray collector arrays. Quote
LarryKJ7YM Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 Yeah what about htis Tuna in oil thing? I like to buy it packed in water to. If you saw the size of my tummy you would understand :-) Quote
bayoumom Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 When a Hurricane hits the Gulf I've found that Bread, Bottled Water, Batteries, and Wood are the first to go. Looking for a loaf of bread in the grocery? Better get there fast. Oh yes, gasoline. A few years ago a fellow was running a generator, since you can't bring it inside it stayed on the patio in the back. He could hear the constant hum and knew it was still there... or so he thought. He figured out that it should be time to add gas to the tank. He went outside and instead of his generator he found a lawn mover running. Thieves had taken the generator. We've found that our neighbors are generous in times of disaster. We plan on being generous as well. My non member neighbor was over when I received 40 boxes of food storage the other day. A great little conversation ensued about why we store food etc. She said that it made her nervous, should she store more? I reminded her that during the aftermath of the last hurricane she offered to share with us and that we would of course share with them in times of need. I'd rather share than have someone come to steal and harm my family (not that I believe this neighbor would do that). Quote
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