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I'm too cold to find anything... but I remember something said about "bringing the good with you" when you join the church.

I would put her full name. If she wants she can have her married name added later. I still have my first set of scriptures with my maiden name on then.

Melissa, I'm concerned about you. You're in my prayers but that's about all I can do from a distance. Please talk to someone.

I will not buy a cheaper bra. They don't fit, they don't support and they fall apart. I love Best Foods mayo but I will use Western Family in a casserole. Only Best Foods on a sandwich. Dawn dish soap. Anything else is a waste of money.

I agree and disagree. There needs to be middle ground. yes, mental health has been underfunded, but that's because it was misunderstood. But we're swinging in the other direction now with even less understanding and compassion. Now everything should have an ICD-9 code. I think labeling every mood swing or difficult child is counterproductive. It doesn't help our families and friends understand and I don't think it helps the person either. Educating the public about mental health issues is what needs to happen. Even today if a person really wants to understand you have to go to school and take psych classes. That doesn't need to be done with a broken bone. Thus the dilemma.

I'm so very sorry Melissa. (((hugs)))

I have to disagree. Taxes are to fund a government run by the people. At least it is in this country. What we've gotten for not paying attention is more and more government that needs more and more money. Governments are not suppose to expand power and influence. They are suppose to stay manageable. When a righteous people are being governed they don't need more government. Its Satan's plan to take away the freedoms of righteous people. And finally.... the quote about power corrupting absolutely....

You're in my prayers Melissa. I hope you can get home to family soon. (((hugs)))

This video made it to the news this morning. LOL

well... :) There's worldly magic which is illusion and then there is the Spirit of God which can do anything. :)

I had a thought pop into my head. We all often thing of repentance and the atonement as being solely for someone doing something wrong. But the Atonement is so much more than that. When we allow the Atonement to work in our lives it can help us heal in ways that have nothing to do with sin. I think repentance in the context of healing would definitely mean the change JAG referenced.

I think I'm going to have to call them. :)

I feel like I'm on both sides of the conversation. I'm also trying to figure out why there is a division. Maybe after some contemplation I'll be able to put my thoughts into understandable sentences and paragraphs.

Thank you. I think you said it well. I don't have a perfect faith but I do know I can be healed. I've also learned that my definition of healing might be different from my Savior's definition of healing. I have enough faith now to realize that His definition is in my best interest long term (eternity) while my definition is more temporal.

Traveler, Repentance doesn't always play a role in healing in the same way for everyone. Telling someone they need to repent when they are seeking advice on healing usually gets the wrong reaction because nobody except Christ can know if repentance is necessary or will help. Its a personal journey, which is why I don't tell someone with depression or other illnesses to repent to feel better. However, I will say this: Repentance has helped me. Not to be out of pain but to be closer to my Heavenly Father and Savior. I need to be close so that I can cope with the pain and depression. Being close spiritually has also helped me in listening to personal revelation regarding my struggles. I don't think its appropriate to bring repentence into a discussion like this because this discussion is general and repentance is personal and it will always be perceived as hurtful.

In my journey with chronic pain and depression I've come to realize that MY struggles are mine because there are lessons I needed to learn. My journey will not be the same as anyone else's. I refuse to let other people's opinions matter, but they do hurt sometimes. Especially family. Being more righteous, repent or try harder won't help until the chemical imbalance is corrected. Meds, herbs and cognitive changes are the only things that can help. Don't listen to naysayers. Just do what is best for you. BTW, I list an unsympathetic husband as a naysayer. But that's just me. Either my husband is on board with my healing or he's not. I can't change his opinions. All I can do is what is best for me. Sometimes that's meant we don't talk about it. Surprisingly after 15 years he thinks the same way about most meds as I do. :) Not arguing for decades got the result I needed.

I thought I did. I'm confused.

Eowyn, sometimes meds are necessary. There is not what if. If you need the medication and it helps, then take it. Don't beat yourself up about it. And don't listen to naysayers. Your journey is your jounrney, only you can decides what is best for you.

Yes its adjacent to the This is the Place monument.

I KNOW that Heavenly Father can heal everything, both physical and mental. My clinical depression was triggered because I don't understand the reasons He didn't heal me. I've come to recognize the blessings that have come from a chronic illness. One is a closer relationship with my Savior. I would miss that lesson if I got better. But... I'd still like to be out of pain.

LOL I wish that applied. Men suffer from clinical depression too. Edit: Vort, I've typed three sentences and deleted them. I don't think you intend it but posting this video in reply to Eowyn's post will leave a negative impression of your intent.

I wouldn't use the word repent in relationship to what you're experiencing. Its the wrong concept. You have nothing to repent of. It has been proven scientifically that if we change our thoughts we can change the chemistry in our brain that causes depression. If we have negative thoughts, especially negativity towards ourselves or our situation, and we consciously change that negative thought to a more positive thought then we change our brain chemistry in a way which causes less depression. Medications change the chemistry but only for the short term. To change our brain chemistry long term we have to change our thoughts. I put this concept into practice. It worked. Now when I feel myself falling back into the black whole of depression I do two things, 1) take St. John's Wort (because medications don't work for me) and 2) when a negative thought pops into my head I change it to something positive and then reinforce it by repeating it several times. With this process I've been able to stop the full blown episodes of clinical depression that have become part of my life with Fibromyalgia.

In today's psychiatric world all diagnoses involving the brain, moon or emotion is under the label of mental illness. So yes depression is now classified as a mental illness regardless of the cause. The reason is for insurance reimbursement. Insurance won't pay for the doctor's appoint for a diagnosis of unhappy or sad. Actually this reimbursement has been the driving factor behind what is considered a mental illness and what isn't.

I think they are adorable too. :)