Palerider

I am not bickering......just trying to understand you and what you are saying..... :)

I gotcha now.......duh.....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hhhhmmmm....The irony as in.....you don't want to be given that as an answer for you,,,,but its ok for you to give that scripture to others....HHHmmm.....I think I see can see it now..........

Not being a smart aleck here......in these parts where I come from....its easier to just ask questions and find out what you wanna know Dr one....or take your questions too the Lord and pray......James 1:5......

Seriously Maureen - do you really suppose that I don't know what a creed is? Actually I wasn't sure how you were defining it which is why I put the definition in my post. You were obviously putting words or thoughts in Christo's post that he did not intend - hence the need to be clear. If you think that I didn't not capture Christo's intent, let me restate it to sayt that Christo does not think that accepting the Creeds is essential/important. Somehow I think that Christo would agree with my first characterization - but since he won't answer, I guess we'll never know. See, you are doing it again. A creed is paraphrasing an already biblical belief - therefore it is not outside of biblical doctrine, it is agreeing with biblical doctrine. M. Well that's one argument but I'd say it's a very poor one. The creeds state the God (the Trinity) is ontologically one being. That is not a biblical affirmation. Mormons accept what the bible says about God. We reject the Creeds. The standard of orthodoxy provided by Chalcedon says things liek inconfusedly, unchanably, indivisibly, inseperably, subsistence, etc., all non-biblical language - paraphased on not. The test of all this is if you ask someone, say like Christo, is it okay if Mormons accept teachings about God but reject the creeds (in order to be considered Christian) and the response is, no - you must also accept the creeds. At the most - the creeds are non or extra-biblical. At the least - they are a mandatory requirement of how one must interpret the bible. I would like to say that it is foolish to accept something without questioning it. To accept a creed without understanding it has the same value of not knowing it at all. Study the creed, if you do not understand something, ask your priest/vicar/pastor or other member of clergy about it. That is one of the great things about being Christian, you are allowed to question, you are even allowed to doubt. There are always people who will be willing to share wisdom with each other. When I have a question about something I will first of all discuss it with my brethren, then with the Priest, if he doesn't know (and there is very little he doesn't) he will ask other people. An unanswered question is a terrible thing. Yes, the Nicene creed is extra biblical but in another sense it isn't, it is a summary of belief. As I said earlier, Creed comes from the Greek meaning "I believe". The creed is in effect a model testimony. Guess what verse comes to mind James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. Sure is funny you would come in here quoting that scripture....seems to me you became disgusted with me for quoting that very scripture to you.......

I think it would be easier to ask the questions.....It seems you might have a few....just my opinion...................

I am a new member...in the other post she says....I have wanted to be a mod for a long time....sounds like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.......wow

I need to know more info......what are your platforms???......will you be for tax increases or tax reform????

Lindy....you don't need to apologize.....I see no harm in expressing your opinion......

It was legal to shoot a Mormon here in Misery....Missouri until the 80's. I believe it was John Ashcroft who took the law off the books during his term as Gov...

The Book of Mormon is false.......thats news to me...........I know Wally Martin and Ed Decker and some Tanners try to claim its false.....ITS ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST.....

no.there is not......I believe it doesn't happen until the judgement day.....You can go to Alma and I think its in the 12th Chapter and read it...... no.there is not......I believe it doesn't happen until the judgement day.....You can go to Alma and I think its in the 12th Chapter and read it...... I am wrong.....its in the 11th chapter of Alma......realised my mistake after I posted

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Happy birthday and many many more!!!!!!

I would suggest you study that out and do some research.......not trying to be offensive.....

God created all things through Jesus Christ.......this is my understanding from reading the scriptures...

The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost are dinstinct beings....but they are one in purpose and effort. They are united as one in bringing to pass the grand divine plan for salvation and exaltation of the children of God.........

No Christos....it would not of made a difference if Joseph Smith knew about the Orthodox Church.......

If you go too 2 Nephi 9:13 and 14........when you read this you will have your answer.....

in all classes the teachers are suppose to stick with what is right in the lesson.....they are not suppose to bring in outside material to add to the lesson.....they should use the material that is listed as source material...we have more problems with inaccurate info being spewed in our Elders Q than any other place.....the fellas don't try to teach or say anything wrong...just more myth or stories with no source to follow up......In all of our classes we should monitor what is being taught....

I believe according to the Scriptures ....God created the earth through Jesus Christ......

We have to speak up when we here something thats not right....this is something that i am always listening for....in class rooms and talks....sometimes have to make comments lets remember there is a difference between the gospel and personal opinion.......when I visit my daughters ward and hear something thats not right...I still feel obligated to say something while in a class room lesson. There are so many stories that members tell in classes or talks now that are just that....stories.....most of the time there is no source or way of verifying what is being said...cause its usually mentioned " I heard once".......we just have to be carefull....and we just need to teach from the scriptures and church publications.

They are equal to each other.......you can slide thru and pick an easy project or do something more challenging.......for either one